Glorious NSE Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 On 29/01/2021 at 12:23, the Goblin said: I remember seeing the catalogue showed two sets of 4 of the new EW1 coaches. One set is more expensive, any idea why that was? Have a feeling one of them comes with the big green "storage book" which has enough extra slots to take the other 4 as well. (Not a cost thing, but theres also a different mix of first and second class coaches included, one may be more useful than the other from a proto POV!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I think the Aussichtswagen and updated BEX cars are released as they are showing up on JP Ebay BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrTea Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2021 Has anyone on here plucked up the courage to weather their Kato locos or stock? I'd be interested to see the results. Most of the prototype photos of the RhB I've seen so the locos and carriages in clean external condition but presumably the chassis areas and roofs pick up some dirt from being in service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, MrTea said: Has anyone on here plucked up the courage to weather their Kato locos or stock? I'd be interested to see the results. Most of the prototype photos of the RhB I've seen so the locos and carriages in clean external condition but presumably the chassis areas and roofs pick up some dirt from being in service? No bizarrely I’ve weathered the Om but not got round to the Nm! I will weather the goods stock eventually to various extents but the advertising liveries tend to be kept clean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 I’ve long thought about respraying one of mine, but then I would need an airbrush so common sense prevails at the moment.... but the day will come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, backofanenvelope said: I’ve long thought about respraying one of mine, but then I would need an airbrush so common sense prevails at the moment.... but the day will come. You don’t need an airbrush You can do it with thinned washes too. I think the best policy is to have a mix of methods as some stock is weathered by dust and dirt whipped up as the train passes, like the fine dirt of an airbrush, and some is dirt and rust washed down. These were both done with washes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 Ok Paul, I always thought it best done with airbrush, but I might just need to get some more paints then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, backofanenvelope said: Ok Paul, I always thought it best done with airbrush, but I might just need to get some more paints then! You can’t do effects like this with an airbrush I use the airbrush, washes and dry brushing on different items, and sometimes a mix of two techniques, but I don’t consider the airbrush as better just an extra tool in the armoury for certain effects. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 Ok Paul. That weathering is very impressive. I know its in a bigger scale but even so.. What are the paints you are using for the washes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, backofanenvelope said: Ok Paul. That weathering is very impressive. I know its in a bigger scale but even so.. What are the paints you are using for the washes? Tamiya and Vallejo acrylics. I use their thinners for fine overall washes, probably best in N and water is ok on the Om but you need to watch for excessive ‘tide marks’ from the water’s meniscus if you use it. I put on some fairly heavy washes for the roof dirt and dab at it with foam and paper towels to remove some and drag it as if it’s washed down. For wood work I paint over the wood with greys, let it start to skin after about 30 secs then scrape some off with foam and then soften it with grey and brown washes. There’s usually a darkish brown, rusty orangey brown Deck linoleum if I remember correctly and a mid grey. I keep empty pots and use them to mix up washes from new pots with 50-70% thinners and then sometimes put thinners in a milk bottle top and just add a brushful of the wash to that to get a really thin one. It’s all about layers. Start with thin washes and build up at first, you can play with taking off the thicker ones when you’re happier with techniques. Try it on something like a painted Lego brick to see how it goes. I practice on spare wagon bodies where I’ve used the chassis on other things. The first coat may look too flat but I do most of mine with just the three pots mentioned above open. A pot of water to hand with a big brush and paper towel/old handkerchief can remove most of an overdone block of colour and take it back a bit. You can see the three brushes, plastic tops and neat paint pots in those pics, it’s not a lot of gear at all. Edited February 7, 2021 by PaulRhB 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2021 These are HOm with the same techniques 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) Ok, I’m going to have a go. I’ve got some n gauge coaches I can try out on along with as you say Lego. I’ll put order in for paints tomorrow and the see what happens. I’ve been watching RhB webcam and quite a lot of the Allegra’s are reasonably gritty around the roof and upper sides.. the Ge loks seem a bit more cleaner Edited February 7, 2021 by backofanenvelope Correcting the auto correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2021 Dan’s done some nice weathering with his airbrush on his Santa Maria thread so have a looks too those too. You can do similar with thin washes and stippling the brush to avoid brush marks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JimFin Posted February 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2021 Vallejo actually do a nice set of washes which I have found really good for stock, buildings and figures, you need to find the mixed colour set. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Thanks Jim, I’ll look for those. I’ve not used Vallejo paints before but heard lots about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, JimFin said: Vallejo actually do a nice set of washes which I have found really good for stock, buildings and figures, you need to find the mixed colour set. Jim, you dont have a link for a mixed set as there's a bewildering array of products? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JimFin Posted February 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2021 This one I think - I was lucky, I found them in our local hobby shop back in the day when you could browse! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Washes-Set-Vallejo-Water-Based-Acrylic-Brand-New-in-Box-VAL73998/324276276884?hash=item4b805f4e94:g:gWMAAOSw8d1fT2~s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Yes I hope we can return to in person personal browsing! Thanks a lot Jim. Ordered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2021 A few shots of the baggage van at 11m20s, June looks good for these. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 Yes, these do look good. Think I’ll I’ll stick my pre order in now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrTea Posted February 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2021 I’ve had my invoice through from Traintrax for my Allegra and RhB panorama wagon so I think these might be imminent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, MrTea said: I’ve had my invoice through from Traintrax for my Allegra and RhB panorama wagon so I think these might be imminent. You must have a near identical order in to me I’ll look forward to hearing from Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Easterbrook Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 hours ago, MrTea said: I’ve had my invoice through from Traintrax for my Allegra and RhB panorama wagon so I think these might be imminent. Me too. Same order, same invoice. I hope they don't get mixed up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gook the Goblin Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 The Allegra and BEX coach sets are now on the Traintrax site to order - rather than pre-order. Must resist, must resist, ....! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrTea Posted February 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 hours ago, the Goblin said: The Allegra and BEX coach sets are now on the Traintrax site to order - rather than pre-order. Must resist, must resist, ....! Not a chance! You know it make sense 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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