vac_basher Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) We had the same question a while back on here, and the furthest west E-Train ever got was Swindon, as made famous by the cover shot of E-Train and the 252 HST prototype in a 'Modern Railways' of the period. Maybe that's why I had the vague feeling that I actually may have already asked the question a while ago. Just wanted to report that I finally got my hands on my APT-E just a few days ago. It's very nice (shame about the mold lines on the nose though) and I'm really pleased with it. So I'd like to take the opportunity to say thanks to you, Kit, for the enthusiasm and availability. I'm sure that without your input this model certainly wouldn't have been as realistic. Thanks also to Sandra at Shildon. Got there in the end, although it would have been nice to have recieved an update/invitation to pay the balance when the models became available. For a couple of weeks I felt as if I wasn't sure if I was actually going to get mine, but Sandra reassured me all was well. Lovely packaging and presentation of the model. Come on Rapido, HST Prototype and Class 89 next please!! Right, all said and done, I can now get back to my coffee and reading the rest of the fantastic booklet that came with the APT-E Edited May 14, 2016 by vac_basher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Has anyone suffered from bowing bodysides? My replacement PC-2 has arrived and the bodyside is not flush with the base near the front of the vehicle, I can push it into place but it won't stay there. The body appears warped. Is there a simple cure to this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted May 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2016 Has anyone suffered from bowing bodysides? My replacement PC-2 has arrived and the bodyside is not flush with the base near the front of the vehicle, I can push it into place but it won't stay there. The body appears warped. Is there a simple cure to this? I have no idea whether this will help but here goes. This morning I took my PC-2 to pieces because I wanted to try to adjust the nose alignment (I didn't) and to see what was inside. If you pull off the nose assembly first, then run a thumbnail along the body joins both sides the body top lifts off. So if you do this, you will see whether the body top is straight, and also see where the top clips into place. For reassembly, I fitted the nose assembly to the model, then put the body top back on. This was easier than disassembly. Six photos here but I'm afraid I put it back together before I read your post.. This is a sound-fitted PC-2. - Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) This is my 42nd post and I was hoping to answer the answer to life the universe ETC But I spotted something in Richard's 47137 APT-e that looks wrong( although 47-1+3-7 does equal 42 So maybe this is the correct post to spot this) Is this PC2 a bit noisy? What I noticed was one of the universals doesn't appear to be correctly seated The image should explain it better than words John edit This is post 3313 and 3+(3*13)=42 This is getting better all the time Edited May 14, 2016 by John ks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted May 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2016 This is my 42nd post and I was hoping to answer the answer to life the universe ETC But I spotted something in Richard's 47137 APT-e that looks wrong( although 47-1+3-7 does equal 42 So maybe this is the correct post to spot this) Is this PC2 a bit noisy? What I noticed was one of the universals doesn't appear to be correctly seated The image should explain it better than words universal.jpg John Funny what a photo can show up. I've not noticed any mechanical noise, but then again the turbine sounds would probably drown this out. And the model has only run six feet in each direction because of a pinch point on my layout. Could anyone advise, is re-seating the universal a DIY job? Before I take it to bits again. - Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Richad At the point of the "not OK" arrow in the gap between the universal and the rest of the drive shaft place something small and flat like the end of a small screwdriver and push forward in the direction of the arrow and the universal should click into place. Rotate the motor shaft 180deg And check that the other side of the universal is ok. john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddles Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Thinking about the dcc address (discussed many pages ago) this could be 2783,from the old telephone dial. Richard. That is the address I used for mine, as soon as I received it. I use the same principle for other stock where there is no obvious number. Blue Pull Man is 2 7 6 and my Plasser And Theurer is 7 2 8 . The cordless phones around the house (or old mobiles) supply the translation rather than an old dial. Edited May 14, 2016 by Riddles 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted May 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) At the point of the "not OK" arrow in the gap between the universal and the rest of the drive shaft place something small and flat like the end of a small screwdriver and push forward in the direction of the arrow and the universal should click into place. Rotate the motor shaft 180deg And check that the other side of the universal is ok. Sorted. In fact, the other side of the UJ was already "home" and as you say a prod with a small screwdriver does the trick. I've put the model back together again and I must agree with others who have pointed out the coupling mechanism gets easier after the first one or two goes. Edit: this still leaves us to solve Matabiau's problem at post 3311. - Richard. Edited May 14, 2016 by 47137 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmotrutta Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I reality we probably DID have the world's fastest rail-borne disco. I always had my cassette recorder (remember them?) on the Tilt Control desk and it was wired up to my intercom headset, which I still have, and it played through the right hand earphone. but with the flick of a switch on the headset it was connected to the intercom circuit itself so everyone could 'feel the music'. On the longer positioning trips I'd play requests over the intercom as I had maybe 4-5 C90 tapes of the current hits with me all the time. Needless to say the Inspector, Driver, Secondman and Guard were NOT on that intercom circuit!!! Afraid not, not in reality anyway. We had the same question a while back on here, and the furthest west E-Train ever got was Swindon, as made famous by the cover shot of E-Train and the 252 HST prototype in a 'Modern Railways' of the period. Of course on your layout YOU'RE in charge............ OK Kit, could we please have your mix-list from the C90s to get the right vibes in the train room! I have my 1970's C&A black velvet jacket ready and waiting. Can't find my flares though... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Well I got the decoders this morning, and have fitted both to TC-1&2, Turned the brightness right down but could still here buzzing when the computers went on When I've looked into it, It seems normal? Not sure but there could be some truth in it. PC-1 buzzes if you have headlights and cab light on (with no sound on and on her own) you can faintly hear it. Anyway, I'll keep an eye on it and may turn the brightness up a little, I've set them as F20-computers, F21-TC-1 coach lighting, F22-TC-2 coach lighting, Also turned down the cab lights and sound a little, it is set at full volume 150%!!! I was a bit shocked when I seen the U-joint on Richard's E-Train, Good spot John, eyes like a ****house rat there! so I quickly checked mine, all O.K. As for the bulging sides, I think reasonably normal, mine is the same just above the front wheel of the front bogie unit, similar to John's #3231, Try gently squeezing the sides and top and bottom at the same time, or remove/refit the body see if that helps. Regards Craig. Edited May 14, 2016 by UP 4000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 OK Kit, could we please have your mix-list from the C90s to get the right vibes in the train room! I have my 1970's C&A black velvet jacket ready and waiting. Can't find my flares though... Do you have the kipper ties as well? They were essential wear at the time, unless like me you wore cravats instead. In my case that saved the ends of the ties from getting soaked in hydraulic oil............... The E-Train mix-list, hmm.... You could start with Rod Stewart's 'Maggie May' with almost anything by Barry White following on. A Tilt Development fave was Bachman Turner Overdrive's 'You Ain't seen Nothing yet' and almost anything from our 'local band' Showaddywaddy always went down well. I wonder if I have some of the tapes still? The way I hoard things, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, I'll have a look. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Do you have the kipper ties as well? They were essential wear at the time, unless like me you wore cravats instead. In my case that saved the ends of the ties from getting soaked in hydraulic oil............... The E-Train mix-list, hmm.... You could start with Rod Stewart's 'Maggie May' with almost anything by Barry White following on. A Tilt Development fave was Bachman Turner Overdrive's 'You Ain't seen Nothing yet' and almost anything from our 'local band' Showaddywaddy always went down well. I wonder if I have some of the tapes still? The way I hoard things, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, I'll have a look. Ohh Yesss, The madness continues, My next project, Ask Ian (legomanbiffo) how many songs can you fit on a loksound? Add this and a speaker in the belly of TC-2, A flashing led for a glitter ball (firebox flicker???) Hmmmm!!!! Wouldn't that be good. Showaddywaddy-Under the moon of love? Regards Craig. Edited May 14, 2016 by UP 4000 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitmen Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Is the non sound drivers cab supposed to light up ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Is the non sound drivers cab supposed to light up ? Honestly, I don't think so, I think it only works via DCC, so you need a decoder to operate it, I checked my "service use" video that was under DC control at the time and there was no cab light on. Hope this helps, Regards Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 kipper ties Two sugars in mine please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitmen Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Honestly, I don't think so, I think it only works via DCC, so you need a decoder to operate it, I checked my "service use" video that was under DC control at the time and there was no cab light on. Hope this helps, Regards Craig. Thanks I thought that was the case,just checking mine was 100% on everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Ohh Yesss, The madness continues, My next project, Ask Ian (legomanbiffo) how many songs can you fit on a loksound? Add this and a speaker in the belly of TC-2, A flashing led for a glitter ball (firebox flicker???) Hmmmm!!!! Wouldn't that be good. Showaddywaddy-Under the moon of love? Of course, we saw them do it live quite a few times at Bailey's Club in Derby, but that was after my E-Train days. Their cover of Eddie Cochran's 'Three Steps to Heaven' was a fave aboard the train during the high speed tests in '75. I can see I'll have to find a model of my cassette deck for my own TC2. And for those interested in total aurthenticity the deck was part of an offer from Reader's Digest and amazingly I found a pic of one on the Net. Yet another item for Paul Leadley to produce on his 3D printer. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danim Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 defenetly one for your desk but we need you first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmotrutta Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Do you have the kipper ties as well? They were essential wear at the time, unless like me you wore cravats instead. In my case that saved the ends of the ties from getting soaked in hydraulic oil............... The E-Train mix-list, hmm.... You could start with Rod Stewart's 'Maggie May' with almost anything by Barry White following on. A Tilt Development fave was Bachman Turner Overdrive's 'You Ain't seen Nothing yet' and almost anything from our 'local band' Showaddywaddy always went down well. I wonder if I have some of the tapes still? The way I hoard things, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, I'll have a look. I'm a bow tie man myself. Hand tied naturally. I think my kipper ties are at my parent's in the UK - I'll have a look in next time I'm over. I'll post pictures if I find them - they probably have a faint whiff of Trophy Bitter and "Hai Karate" about them. Perhaps I should wire in a Seuthe smoke generator in the APT and fill it with "Brut" if I can find a bottle... ?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Now that the APT-E is on the front covers of BRM and Railway Modeller, might there be some rumblings of discontent amongst those modellers who missed the ordering period? One of my friends, who is quite a keen railway enthusiast, was completely unaware of its existence until a few weeks ago. I wonder if anyone is trying to gauge possible interest in a second production run, after all this new publicity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Now that the APT-E is on the front covers of BRM and Railway Modeller, might there be some rumblings of discontent amongst those modellers who missed the ordering period? One of my friends, who is quite a keen railway enthusiast, was completely unaware of its existence until a few weeks ago. I wonder if anyone is trying to gauge possible interest in a second production run, after all this new publicity? I'm a bit on the fence with this one, I wondered if a 2nd run of additional coaches would be possible, and it was kindly pointed out is it cost affective and would it benefit the NRM. I can understand the interest for a 2nd run of the E-Train, and if demand was high could be plausible. But what about all of us that have bought the E-Train, Limited Edition to 2000 pieces, A 2nd run throws all that out the window, Which was the whole purpose anyway. If a 2nd run was intended, personally, I think a drastic change would have to be made to E-Train, eg.. Run in operational mode both coach's with full seating (sorry no computer bank), A running number, maybe a large BR logo, name it LOCOMOTION, Whatever was done it then wouldn't be the prototype E-Train, and the sales might not be there. I couldn't see anything in the near future happening, Anybody who missed out can always make up for it by ordering the HSDT!!! or bite the bullet and get one off Ebay. Regards Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted May 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2016 Now that the APT-E is on the front covers of BRM and Railway Modeller, might there be some rumblings of discontent amongst those modellers who missed the ordering period? One of my friends, who is quite a keen railway enthusiast, was completely unaware of its existence until a few weeks ago. I'm not sure how people will find out about it now that missed it earlier - it isn't as if the development of the APT-E didn't also feature in the various magazines. I'm sure that you are right that there will be some people who missed out (either through choice (which they regret) or through lack of knowledge about it), but I'm not sure what can be done about that (nor should should they be discontent - there is a limit to how much people can publicise things!). But what about all of us that have bought the E-Train, Limited Edition to 2000 pieces, A 2nd run throws all that out the window, Which was the whole purpose anyway. The APT-E was never sold as a limited edition of X - it was sold as the number produced would be limited to the number ordered (not the same thing!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm not sure how people will find out about it now that missed it earlier - it isn't as if the development of the APT-E didn't also feature in the various magazines. I'm sure that you are right that there will be some people who missed out (either through choice (which they regret) or through lack of knowledge about it), but I'm not sure what can be done about that (nor should should they be discontent - there is a limit to how much people can publicise things!). The APT-E was never sold as a limited edition of X - it was sold as the number produced would be limited to the number ordered (not the same thing!). Yes I know, badly worded, Strictly produced to order, ironically bang on 2000 pieces though, some of us ordered 2 so not really 2000 people were interested, A shame. Regards Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted May 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2016 The APT-E was never sold as a limited edition of X - it was sold as the number produced would be limited to the number ordered (not the same thing!). Aren't there limited edition certificates included with the models though? Can anyone here enlighten us to the precise wording on the certificates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted May 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2016 Aren't there limited edition certificates included with the models though? Can anyone here enlighten us to the precise wording on the certificates? Pass, but I do know it was never a limited edition (from talking to Jason and team) - whether there are certificates or not included doesn't change that - the intention was always to produce what was ordered (rather than having stock sitting on the shelf). If 2063 had been ordered then that is how many would have been produced. Our Pendolino will follow the same pattern! Cheers, Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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