RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Signaller69 said: And then all that lovely lining! Gotta fill all the gaps up before I get the paint out. Then I am going to teach myself how to use a bow pen. All the roofs need new vents, the ends need sorting out especially the gangways on Lima and Tri-ang coaches. Lots of fun still to have. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted February 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: but why take the easy route? I thought you were an engineer: what more reason do you need? Paul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, 5BarVT said: I thought you were an engineer: what more reason do you need? Paul. A rough one though! Mike. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2020 Progress with the new coach conversions was delayed this evening owing to several factors. The two BCKs are done. The SK (or TSO) and the BG will have to wait until tomorrow. The RMB from the Hackett coach is looking very sad as I haven't done anything with it. My eldest said that my new coaches looked OK viewing them from the other side of the room without her glasses on. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Progress with the new coach conversions was delayed this evening owing to several factors. The two BCKs are done. The SK (or TSO) and the BG will have to wait until tomorrow. The RMB from the Hackett coach is looking very sad as I haven't done anything with it. My eldest said that my new coaches looked OK viewing them from the other side of the room without her glasses on. Hi Clive, Does your eldest actually know what they are even looking at ? If not, I wouldn't worry about what is said. Gibbo. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: Progress with the new coach conversions was delayed this evening owing to several factors. The two BCKs are done. The SK (or TSO) and the BG will have to wait until tomorrow. The RMB from the Hackett coach is looking very sad as I haven't done anything with it. My eldest said that my new coaches looked OK viewing them from the other side of the room without her glasses on. They look OK from here too! Mike. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The coaches are also prepainted which will save you a job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Hi Folks, Talking of paint jobs I went looking for my Mk1 suburban brake coach which is to painted grey to into my Freightliners consist and I thought that I might have a count up of what I have in the Mk1 box. Out of 38 coaches only three are fit to run as in they are painted and actually have bogies attached rather than in another box somewhere else. The eagle eyed may notice that there are the same amount of SK's as BG's, (two are SO's from bits of buffet car) this is because a BSK cut in half and the bits stuck back together one on a shortened underframe makes one of each. Lets see if Clive is able to correctly identify all of the carriage diagrams that I have cut and shut. Gibbo. 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Coo, and I thought I had a lot of coaches!! Forgive me being thick, but I thought the Mk1 SO and SK had the same sides, is this not so? John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, John Tomlinson said: Coo, and I thought I had a lot of coaches!! Forgive me being thick, but I thought the Mk1 SO and SK had the same sides, is this not so? John. Hi John, The SO and SK do indeed have the same outside arrangement but the insides are different which may not be seen in the photograph, the reason I noted it. I have far too much stuff and it all seems to need attention. The plan is to work through it all while avoiding distractions for I have plenty to go at without building new stuff that remains unpainted also. Only one coach to repaint for the entirety of my Freightliner stock to be complete, extra boxes don't really count. Today's work is centred around re-positioning the bogie pivots of the BG's and masking off some more of my Pullmans for the cream paint. I sort of have a plan but there are always motorcycles, tea and Flavia Equitania to be dealing with. Gibbo. 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2020 A generic question for Gibbo and Clive. Why don't you paintstrip the coaches before setting about them, IMHO it gives a lot better base to set off from when refining and refinishing? Not saying you're doing anything wrong, just interested, after all it is each to their own! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 9, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2020 Just now, Enterprisingwestern said: A generic question for Gibbo and Clive. Why don't you paintstrip the coaches before setting about them, IMHO it gives a lot better base to set off from when refining and refinishing? Not saying you're doing anything wrong, just interested, after all it is each to their own! Mike. Hi Mike No Idea why, I just get on and cut them about. 2 hours ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Folks, Talking of paint jobs I went looking for my Mk1 suburban brake coach which is to painted grey to into my Freightliners consist and I thought that I might have a count up of what I have in the Mk1 box. Out of 38 coaches only three are fit to run as in they are painted and actually have bogies attached rather than in another box somewhere else. The eagle eyed may notice that there are the same amount of SK's as BG's, (two are SO's from bits of buffet car) this is because a BSK cut in half and the bits stuck back together one on a shortened underframe makes one of each. Lets see if Clive is able to correctly identify all of the carriage diagrams that I have cut and shut. Gibbo. Hi Gibbo There is one BSO, three BSK, nine SK (or SO or TSO or RSO or RUO), seven BG, three Ck, three FK (a type I have not made), one RMB, 4 Sleepers (all BR diagrams had the same body shell), 3 TPOs which I know very little about, 3 Lima RB, and some modern thing. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: A generic question for Gibbo and Clive. Why don't you paintstrip the coaches before setting about them, IMHO it gives a lot better base to set off from when refining and refinishing? Not saying you're doing anything wrong, just interested, after all it is each to their own! Mike. Hi Mike, It make no difference to building them and they get sanded down before painting anyway, that said some were built at a time when I probably had no paint stripper which doesn't help. Gibbo 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Mike No Idea why, I just get on and cut them about. Hi Gibbo There is one BSO, three BSK, nine SK (or SO or TSO or RSO or RUO), seven BG, three Ck, three FK (a type I have not made), one RMB, 4 Sleepers (all BR diagrams had the same body shell), 3 TPOs which I know very little about, 3 Lima RB, and some modern thing. Hi Clive, Nearly right, the RB's are from Mainline / Replica minor detail there, but only two FK for one is an FO. I shall give you a pass on that as having looked at the photograph I ought to have turned it toilet windows down, the reason for shewing the corridor side of the CK's The modern thing is a Metropolitan Cammell Pullman bar car that ran on WCML sleeping car trains. Gibbo. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallpaul69 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Hi all, I'd frighten my self if I put all my coaches side by side, but they do break into two categories- complete, (which is most of them!) and then those only partly built! I also have the excuse of running a layout in three different eras, although the modern era has only-well modern coaches, except for a set of Pullmans and a set of Mk1s for steam and heritage diesel specials. Keep up the good work Paul 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 9, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Clive, Nearly right, the RB's are from Mainline / Replica minor detail there, but only two FK for one is an FO. I shall give you a pass on that as having looked at the photograph I ought to have turned it toilet windows down, the reason for shewing the corridor side of the CK's The modern thing is a Metropolitan Cammell Pullman bar car that ran on WCML sleeping car trains. Gibbo. Hi Gibbo A FK and a FO have one side that is the same , and that is the side you cheated with. The other side of the FO dia 71 (or RFO dia 36) would have half lights without vents, opposite the toilets. Where a FK has a blank panels opposite the toilet and an access door on the corridor side. I haven't made a dia 71 or 36 (Kitmaster and Bachmann have). I have done a FO dia 72. I haven't done a FO dia 73 (Hornby have). Looking closely at the photo again I can see the bar car and the RB are not Lima. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Gibbo A FK and a FO have one side that is the same , and that is the side you cheated with. The other side of the FO dia 71 (or RFO dia 36) would have half lights without vents, opposite the toilets. Where a FK has a blank panels opposite the toilet and an access door on the corridor side. I haven't made a dia 71 or 36 (Kitmaster and Bachmann have). I have done a FO dia 72. I haven't done a FO dia 73 (Hornby have). Looking closely at the photo again I can see the bar car and the RB are not Lima. Hi Clive, I'm super impressed that you went for diagram 71 over diagram 36, the model shall be numbered M3001 and mounted upon B4 bogies. The FK's are both diagram 116, M13109 on BR1 bogies and M13307 on Commonwealth bogies. As I have AC electrics I have had to choose my coaching stock carefully to be 100mph compatible so that what will run behind the electrics will have either B4 or Commonwealth bogies. Not that it really matters in 00 gauge but it gives me something to write into my stock spreadsheet so that I know what I'm doing with all these specially shaped bits of plastic. Gibbo. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 10, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2020 I had a good day waddling around the Doncaster show with Phil (Mallard60022) and Steve (31A) on Saturday. Spent more than expected. Last night I done the basic sides to the Tri-ang SK and the BG I hadn't planned on making 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: I had a good day waddling around the Doncaster show with Phil (Mallard60022) and Steve (31A) on Saturday. My train building dream team, well done lads. Today I am mostly driving down to Cornwall. I expect to be gone for some time. I'm already 4 hours behind schedule because I cba to get out of bed. Tally Ho! 1 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 10, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2020 43 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: My train building dream team, well done lads. Today I am mostly driving down to Cornwall. I expect to be gone for some time. I'm already 4 hours behind schedule because I cba to get out of bed. Tally Ho! Look Doc you have not met all three of us together. I still cannot understand what Cornwall has done wrong for you to keep visiting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2020 Cornwall welcomes careful drivers, and atm wind and rain. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) Hi Folks, As we are talking cut and shut coaches should anyone want any bits for projects here is a selection of what is available from my left overs box. There is only so much clutter I can keep hold of and it is the kind of stuff that is too much trouble to put on Ebay so here it is. Send me a PM for what ever you require: These items are taken. These items are taken. These items are taken. These items are now taken. These items are now taken. Here is a link to my "Free to a Good Home" thread: Gibbo. Edited February 10, 2020 by Gibbo675 Items taken 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 19 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Mike No Idea why, I just get on and cut them about. Hi Gibbo There is one BSO, three BSK, nine SK (or SO or TSO or RSO or RUO), seven BG, three Ck, three FK (a type I have not made), one RMB, 4 Sleepers (all BR diagrams had the same body shell), 3 TPOs which I know very little about, 3 Lima RB, and some modern thing. Hi Clive, It seems I don't know my own coaches and also that I didn't read what you wrote properly. There are only two BSK's for the top brake end is a BFK, M14006 diagram 161, mounted on BR1 bogies built 1960, scrapped 1976. Minus one for both of us there ! I'm now wondering whether the term "Train Spotter" is a compliment or an insult in this case. It is a term that certainly applies to both of us and most of the rest of you out there reading this. If the truth hurts !!! Gibbo. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 10, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Clive, It seems I don't know my own coaches and also that I didn't read what you wrote properly. There are only two BSK's for the top brake end is a BFK, M14006 diagram 161, mounted on BR1 bogies built 1960, scrapped 1976. Minus one for both of us there ! I'm now wondering whether the term "Train Spotter" is a compliment or an insult in this case. It is a term that certainly applies to both of us and most of the rest of you out there reading this. If the truth hurts !!! Gibbo. Hi Gibbo How did I miss that, four big windows and only one set of double doors. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted February 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2020 Wait a minute where is the video for this page?!! There are standards to be maintained here you know. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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