RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 26, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2020 Has anyone else lost sight of what day it is with this lockdown? Here is something to help. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: Has anyone else lost sight of what day it is with this lockdown? Here is something to help. POETS day ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: Has anyone else lost sight of what day it is with this lockdown? Days have names? 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37Oban Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ian said: Days have names? There are three day names! Yesterday, today and tomorrow! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2020 Is it not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAk6Euat-6A today, then?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: Has anyone else lost sight of what day it is with this lockdown? Yes, but I have managed to narrow it down to seven possibilities. 2 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2020 Easy. It's fish Friday. As to the rest, well, lost in a puther of oblivion. Mike. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 hours ago, 37Oban said: There are three day names! Yesterday, today and tomorrow! Add this day, that day, some day and the other day, makes a week 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 hours ago, 37Oban said: There are three day names! Yesterday, today and tomorrow! Doris Day and Robin Day... we've almost enough for a week 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simontaylor484 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 What about Darren Day??? Or Daniel.Day Lewis??? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted June 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2020 The Day The Earth Stood Still, more like. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted June 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Tim Dubya said: The Day The Earth Stood Still Is that the day we more usually refer to as Sunday? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alex TM said: Is that the day we more usually refer to as Sunday? I think it's what used to be known as Early Closing Day. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 54 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: I think it's what used to be known as Early Closing Day. Stayed in bed all Day 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 No train stuff for the last few days but may be tonight. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 Here's some train stuff... 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 Don't those locos carry a Government health warning? 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ray H said: Don't those locos carry a Government health warning? Now that is not fair, they are diesels. Mind you the (Great) Western Region did try its best to muck up the modernisation plan by wanting do things its own way. 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 Hi again, This is a genuine question, as I've been told different versions of the perceived 'truth' of the matter: Was the problem that the WR went it's own way via hydraulic transmission, thereby producing 'non-standard' classes, or was it more a reflection that some locomotive builders (e.g. NBL) struggled with diesels exacerbating the issue? Thanks and regards, Alex. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 My understanding is that the WR argued that they didn't have any/enough electrical engineers or experience along those lines, but plenty of mechanical engineers, so argued for less electrics in locomotives. They got what they wished for, and the rest is history, although I reckon a combination of numerous factors contrived to create the problems. Mike. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 There was no single issue that killed off the hydraulic classes but the non-standard transmission and small fleets were only part of the issue. There were roughly as many Hymeks, which had probably the best reputation for reliability of the hydraulics, as BRCW Type 3s (Class 33s). The Westerns were redundant as soon as air-conditioned passenger stock entered service on the WR. They couldn't be fitted with ETH (no space) which limited them to secondary passenger traffic or freight. Increasingly the heavy freight was air-braked and other, more numerous types with air or dual braking were available. Then of course there was the problem with almost every diesel built by North British. The problem was that they were built by North British. 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Alex TM said: Hi again, This is a genuine question, as I've been told different versions of the perceived 'truth' of the matter: Was the problem that the WR went it's own way via hydraulic transmission, thereby producing 'non-standard' classes, or was it more a reflection that some locomotive builders (e.g. NBL) struggled with diesels exacerbating the issue? Thanks and regards, Alex. Conspiracy theory number 4, the Swindon/Paddington mafia were still smarting after being forced to join with the other three railways it was set on doing anything for this coalition fall apart. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 If your having a running session tonight Clive, will we get some sound effects later, or just a detailed description of what went where and in what colours, etc? P.S. Hope you had a good Birthday mate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Alex TM said: Hi again, This is a genuine question, as I've been told different versions of the perceived 'truth' of the matter: Was the problem that the WR went it's own way via hydraulic transmission, thereby producing 'non-standard' classes, or was it more a reflection that some locomotive builders (e.g. NBL) struggled with diesels exacerbating the issue? Thanks and regards, Alex. Both. The WR wanted to be different and have its own traction policy. And NBL built lemons when it came to diesels. NBL Type 21 (This is the diesel-electric flavour of lemon - one model I've actually managed to finish during lockdown) Apparently the killer for both the Hymeks and the Westerns was that they didn't have ETH - and in the case of the Hymeks it couldn't possibly be shoe-horned in (so The Johnster in a post somewhere) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said: My understanding is that the WR argued that they didn't have any/enough electrical engineers or experience along those lines, but plenty of mechanical engineers, so argued for less electrics in locomotives. They got what they wished for, and the rest is history, although I reckon a combination of numerous factors contrived to create the problems. Mike. Hi Mike That is why the GWR lumbered 2 gas turbines with electric transmission on BR and Swindon was building Diesel-Electric shunters in 1948 (15101-15106). They could have recruited some electrical engineers. It would have been faster promotion than the other regions deadman's shoes systems. Plus up to 1933 and the formation of London Transport Passenger Board the GWR had some EMUs on the Hammersmith and City Line. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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