RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Wagonmaster said: What I meant to say is would my green WR 'as built' version have been likely at Sheffield Exchange in Clive's modelling period? Thinking about the early DMU days, I wondered which route the Scottish 120s would have taken to get to Aberdeen when first built? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 There is a photo I`ve seen of a class 123 in green days coming through Dore on a cross country service, so anything is possible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, cheesysmith said: There is a photo I`ve seen of a class 123 in green days coming through Dore on a cross country service, so anything is possible. Certainly a case of never say never. I think it was at New Street where there was a picture of a 123 and 120 leaving for Derby c1963 There were a lot of strange short notice workings at weekends as well as some booked ones. In 1964 there was an evening DMU from Cardiff to Derby. On Saturdays it appears that it worked a Nottingham to Cardiff train. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 31, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2021 Back to the question about a Swindon Cross Country DMU being seen at Sheffield Exchange, I hope so when I get around to making one or two. New video from the Warning. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 Swindon Town (or similar Western Region team) away match, footy special. I get muddled with DMU class designations - if they were the front gangway one's that got transferred up to Hull in the 1970s, also a Hull City away match gives a good excuse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 31, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2021 59 minutes ago, john new said: Swindon Town (or similar Western Region team) away match, footy special. I get muddled with DMU class designations - if they were the front gangway one's that got transferred up to Hull in the 1970s, also a Hull City away match gives a good excuse. I don't need an excuse Its my train set and I want to have fun. 5 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 YO ! Morty, Thank you for an entertaining thread for another year matey, very much appreciated. Happy do-dahs for next year, keep safe ! G 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: I don't need an excuse Its my train set and I want to have fun. Quite right too, my own view also, definitely rule 1 when I am on my own. Might be different if it ever gets finished enough for a mag shot but that is way off. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 31, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2021 Before I forget, for those who do not venture on to Sainty's or Bodger Peters threads, this geezer has a message for you all. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Clive, Happy New Year Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonmaster Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 7 hours ago, john new said: Swindon Town (or similar Western Region team) away match, footy special. I get muddled with DMU class designations - if they were the front gangway one's that got transferred up to Hull in the 1970s, also a Hull City away match gives a good excuse. Those were the Class 123 Swindon Intercity dmu's. Rule 1 definitely on my layout. Purists would have a fit! Lol! Happy New Year 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Here is a super rare photo from facebook. In fact, I think this is the only photo of one I`ve seen. Credit to Mark Leving 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 31, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, cheesysmith said: Here is a super rare photo from facebook. In fact, I think this is the only photo of one I`ve seen. Credit to Mark Leving Traveled on it a few times, stuck out like a sore thumb by its different layout. It is the ex Swindon class 123 Buffet in a Class 309 (to lazy to double check the unit number) Clacton Buffet set. Seems to be in platform 13 , not in the usual platform 11 or 12 the Clacton/ Walton trains departed from. Loverly photo Cheesy. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimwal Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Clive, I hope when that buffet car was converted for use in a Clacton unit it was able to serve Angus steak! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 11 hours ago, cheesysmith said: Here is a super rare photo from facebook. In fact, I think this is the only photo of one I`ve seen. Credit to Mark Leving One for those who say you can't see the welding ribs on Mk1 roofs as well! Happy New year to Clive and everyone else who has made this thread such an enjoyable read over the year. John. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonmaster Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 14 hours ago, cheesysmith said: Here is a super rare photo from facebook. In fact, I think this is the only photo of one I`ve seen. Credit to Mark Leving Great photo Cheesysmith. Interesting to see it is still on its B4 bogies and not been swapped out for Commonwealths like the rest of the Clacton units! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 1, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2022 2022 has started well new today, I do like a bit of blue-punk -grass 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 29/12/2021 at 23:31, Clive Mortimore said: Some recent conversions. Both LNER dia 275 Restaurant Buffet Cars, kitchen side only as the corridor side was the same on both. E9195E after being converted to a Buffet similar to the standard dia 167 Buffets. Hi Clive, Was it some of these which survived to carry blue/grey livery (some/all later transferred to WR?) As I have in mind to do one at some point - I believe the most recent Hornby model in such guise has an incorrect window layout for same? A Mk.1 ScR Griddle car is still on the same list too. Best wishes all. Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 4, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) On 04/01/2022 at 12:42, Signaller69 said: Hi Clive, Was it some of these which survived to carry blue/grey livery (some/all later transferred to WR?) As I have in mind to do one at some point - I believe the most recent Hornby model in such guise has an incorrect window layout for same? A Mk.1 ScR Griddle car is still on the same list too. Best wishes all. Martyn. HI Martyn E9195E lasted long enough to be repainted into Blue-grey livery. It was the only dia 275 converted. It stayed on the ER and there are several photos of it on the Harwich to Manchester train. All the others that were repainted into blue-grey were the standard LNER buffets dia 167. The Hornby model is a dia 167 as built. Not all were rebuilt with propane cooking and some other bits in the kitchen. The most distinctive changes were fixed seats and shelves behind the serving counter. The result of the changes to the kitchen and the addition of the shelves meant several windows were sheeted over blanking about half the kitchen side of the coach. I am told that the Hornby model has the wrong profile and some other stuff about its beading, so instead of spending £45 on a coach to convert which will not look like my other cut and shuts I used a couple of £10 coaches and made me own. Here it is with the rebuilt dia 275, the 167 is on the right. Not much difference on kitchen side, the seating area is very slightly longer on the Dia 275. The window arrangement on the corridor side is again only slightly different, but as a nerddie puffer nutter it is important to me. As I have already stated not all of the standard dia 167s were rebuilt, some were repainted in maroon before withdrawal......so maybe another project to start? Edited April 12, 2022 by Clive Mortimore 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Thanks for the info Clive, you have indeed got me thinking of building a Dia 167 via your method, another to add to the "tuit list"! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 4, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2022 New song from Let's Eat Grandma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 5, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2022 Looking at RMweb there seem to a lot of unhappy modellers out there It is too expensive. The detail is not good enough. The detail is too flimsy and broke as I took out the box. It is the wrong colour. I fitted a whizo-zoomer decoder and it only goes backwards not the other way. and so on..... Well I have a solution for them, take up another hobby, like sitting in the local shopping mall perving the young ladies in their miniskirts and tight jeans. I bags the seat outside Top Shop....... 1 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 @Clive Mortimore You're so out of touch, shopping malls have been replaced by online shopping experiences, Top Shop is now Not Shop and you cannot stare at the mini-skirted ladies, it's just not the done thing now. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted January 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2022 35 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Looking at RMweb there seem to a lot of unhappy modellers out there It is too expensive. The detail is not good enough. The detail is too flimsy and broke as I took out the box. It is the wrong colour. I fitted a whizo-zoomer decoder and it only goes backwards not the other way. and so on..... Well I have a solution for them, take up another hobby, like sitting in the local shopping mall perving the young ladies in their miniskirts and tight jeans. I bags the seat outside Top Shop....... I steer clear of those bits of RMWeb where people try to outscore each other on who can find the most things wrong with a new model, preferring to lurk in the threads where people discuss making stuff for model railways (or military history, cars/motorbikes/music or whatever). My box opening generally consists of opening an old cardboard box in the loft, trying to find a coach that I put away with 20 others about ten years ago. Perhaps I should record a video of this thrilling activity? 4 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 There's a lot of willy waving on this forum as people try and outdo each other with competitiveness, I often want to shout at them to stop, but I then I am just adding to the problem. For Clive and seat at the mall: 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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