John Tomlinson Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 As another child of the mid '50's (1956), many happy returns! John. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2019 5 hours ago, John Tomlinson said: As another child of the mid '50's (1956), many happy returns! John. This is a very good bar in Takayama, Japan: 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 29, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2019 Update on cutting bits up, I have the sides cut for a Gresley SK, TSO (teak body), and FK (GE shortie). I have three old Hornby Gresleys left and hopefully enough parts to make a BSO (6 bays) and a BSO (4 bays). With the planned Thomo TSO a nice broken down DMU replacement train is in the offing. Photos possibly tomorrow. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted June 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2019 Clive May I ask thee a question about coaches? Bachmann have a 60ft porthole open which I initially thought was Second Class - e.g. (T)SO. That is until I inadvertently bought one whilst visiting family at the other end of the country. It turned out to be an open First (FO). It had 2 + 1 seating but interestingly had no curtains. The model has now been returned from whence it was purchased courtesy of Royal Mail. I'd always thought that First Class opens were more of a modern concept introduced around the time that Second Class compartment stock started to disappear. The only open First of an older vintage - the model is offered in Blood & Custard - that I can think of would be the opens used for dining although I'd have expected curtains with these. Do you know how common open Firsts were in the early fifties? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 30, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ray H said: Clive May I ask thee a question about coaches? Bachmann have a 60ft porthole open which I initially thought was Second Class - e.g. (T)SO. That is until I inadvertently bought one whilst visiting family at the other end of the country. It turned out to be an open First (FO). It had 2 + 1 seating but interestingly had no curtains. The model has now been returned from whence it was purchased courtesy of Royal Mail. I'd always thought that First Class opens were more of a modern concept introduced around the time that Second Class compartment stock started to disappear. The only open First of an older vintage - the model is offered in Blood & Custard - that I can think of would be the opens used for dining although I'd have expected curtains with these. Do you know how common open Firsts were in the early fifties? Hi Ray The LMS didn't build too many first opens of all body designs and those that were built were mainly used for dinning purposes but not branded as such. Photos in the Jenkinson and Essery LMS coaches books indicate they should have curtains. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted June 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2019 Thanks for that. I didn't even give it a second glance - which would probably have revealed the First lozenges on the windows - because there were no curtains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 30, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2019 No modelling today, or running. I have done some research on LMS and LNER coaches, and headcodes. Tonight's songs come from one of the best ever rockers I like the hipster audience, a good cross section of young Americans and isn't it funny to watch a fat man dance especially as he isn't middle class and white. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 1, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2019 I am such a lair, I did do some model making yesterday, well deconstruction. One of the secondhand part built Kirk LNER coaches had very warped sides at the center of the coach they had gone in about 5mm at the top. So I thought if I were to remove them and place them under both volumes of the Hugh Longworth coach books they might straighten out. I gently cut away at the bottom of the sides and floor and cut one side away from the ends. as soon as it was free it went as straight as a new side. With the other one as soon as I cut away one end it went ping and straightened out as much as I expected it to. The previous owner had been a bit heavy handed by the looks of things when he removed the side from the sprue. I am amazed that once removed they straighten out on their own. Will the sides bow in again on reassembly? What made them bow in or why did they? When I do remake the body I will insert some spacers while the glue sets. A wee bit of Dream Wife The drummer looks like a old school friend who because of his looks was known by the nickname as Granny. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37Oban Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: I am such a lair, I did do some model making yesterday, well deconstruction. One of the secondhand part built Kirk LNER coaches had very warped sides at the center of the coach they had gone in about 5mm at the top. So I thought if I were to remove them and place them under both volumes of the Hugh Longworth coach books they might straighten out. I gently cut away at the bottom of the sides and floor and cut one side away from the ends. as soon as it was free it went as straight as a new side. With the other one as soon as I cut away one end it went ping and straightened out as much as I expected it to. The previous owner had been a bit heavy handed by the looks of things when he removed the side from the sprue. I am amazed that once removed they straighten out on their own. Will the sides bow in again on reassembly? What made them bow in or why did they? When I do remake the body I will insert some spacers while the glue sets. A wee bit of Dream Wife The drummer looks like a old school friend who because of his looks was known by the nickname as Granny. Hi Clive, is it possible the sides are not exactly true and square? Or maybe the ends were attached to the floor first and the sides force-fitted? roja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 1, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2019 52 minutes ago, 37Oban said: Hi Clive, is it possible the sides are not exactly true and square? Or maybe the ends were attached to the floor first and the sides force-fitted? roja Hi Roja I was thinking on the same sort of lines. Could the ends not being square with the sides and floor have pushed the sides in. It was the surprise when they pinged straight again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 1, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2019 Fully disassembled and both sides are flat. Something wasn't right. I am going to leave them for a few days before rebuilding it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37Oban Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Fully disassembled and both sides are flat. Something wasn't right. I am going to leave them for a few days before rebuilding it. Hi Clive, I wonder if the original builder assembled them all in one go then used rubber bands to hold it altogether as the glue dried? The top of the ends could be easily forced inwards causing the sides to bow. If all the parts are square and the correct size it would seem possible. Roja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 1, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, 37Oban said: Hi Clive, I wonder if the original builder assembled them all in one go then used rubber bands to hold it altogether as the glue dried? The top of the ends could be easily forced inwards causing the sides to bow. If all the parts are square and the correct size it would seem possible. Roja Hi Roja That could be a cause. It is something I have never even considered doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Roja That could be a cause. It is something I have never even considered doing. That's cos you're a skilled and competent modeller. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 2, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Ravenser said: That's cos you're a skilled and competent modeller. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 2, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2019 No modelling as yet today to busy with the 'orses paddock. And it is called retirement. Anyhow this morning You Tube suggest I listen to this band from Mexico. I viewed a complete performance, many of their tunes are sung in English but the one that caught my attention was this one. Enjoy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 38 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: No modelling as yet today to busy with the 'orses paddock. And it is called retirement. Anyhow this morning You Tube suggest I listen to this band from Mexico. I viewed a complete performance, many of their tunes are sung in English but the one that caught my attention was this one. Enjoy. ENJOY? I did try mate, SORRY. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 4, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2019 I did get to do a little modelling and running yesterday. I have now cut the sides for 5 Gresley carriages from the "spare" Hornby shorties. A SK (all door type), a GE short FK, a TSO (teak body), a BSO (6 bay) and a BSO (4 bay). The sides of the Kirk SK have stayed flat. Yesterdays song was by this charming bunch of guys from Ireland, Note the name of the band Fontaines D.C. ........not DCC. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: I did get to do a little modelling and running yesterday. I have now cut the sides for 5 Gresley carriages from the "spare" Hornby shorties. A SK (all door type), a GE short FK, a TSO (teak body), a BSO (6 bay) and a BSO (4 bay). The sides of the Kirk SK have stayed flat. Yesterdays song was by this charming bunch of guys from Ireland, Note the name of the band Fontaines D.C. ........not DCC. Why is there only one wire coming out of his mike then? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted July 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: Why is there only one wire coming out of his mike then? It is a DCC one 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 5, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 04/07/2019 at 13:36, Ray H said: It is a DCC one Not going to rise to the bait. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 5, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) Some photos of what a vandal who has cut up some nice but not accurate Hornby LNER coaches to make types that cannot be bought RTR (well one can). They are being presented in the order I destroyed the old coaches. Second Corridor, all door diagram 23 or 115. First Corridor, Great Eastern 52 ft shortie, diagram 140. The corridor windows are a bout 1.5mm too short but as they worked out in the right place I am not going alter them. Tourist Second Open Diagram 186 or 302. I have the sliding ventilators to make. Brake Second Open (6 bays) Diagram 196 or 303. I have the sliding ventilators to make. Brake Second Open (4 bay) Diagram 191. I have the sliding ventilators to make. If you have shares in Millput the divvy may be good this year. Edited July 5, 2019 by Clive Mortimore 6 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 5, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2019 Today's songsters are Australian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenB Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Clive Your cut and shut method of modelling seems to be producing some very passable models. I’ve always liked cutting up old Triang/ Hornby carriages to produce new models. Stephen 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 G'day Folks I've posted this one before, but not on here. the LNER Tourist stock lasted in to the 50's maybe longer, this is from Triang, Thompson coaches. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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