TEAMYAKIMA Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 52 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: Short answer - Yes. That truck type, 2-axle rigid, has a payload of 10 tons or so, evenly distributed (eg 10 pallets of 1 ton each), and the load bed would not be strong enough to carry the concentrated weight of a roller like that one, which is also likely to weigh rather more than 10 tons anywa Something like this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WIKING-LOW-LOADER-LORRY-RED-SINGLE-AXEL-HO-OO/133683555244?hash=item1f20292bac:g:Fy4AAOSw4wdf~w45 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al. Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: Something like this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WIKING-LOW-LOADER-LORRY-RED-SINGLE-AXEL-HO-OO/133683555244?hash=item1f20292bac:g:Fy4AAOSw4wdf~w45 No. That low loader is too western. I'd drop the roller onto a three axle truck and modify it so the back end is sat down hard on the suspension to make too overloaded. As for how they got it on. Back the truck up to an earth bank and drive it on in the same way your forklift is loading the barrels in the background. Edited March 27, 2021 by Al. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al. Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Here's another one for you to model. 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted March 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2021 ...you could even animate the truck tipping up! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 48 minutes ago, Al. said: Here's another one for you to model. Many of the 'overloaded truck' photos are of lightweight cargo, in vast quantity. There does come a point where simple physics takes over, and a truck that simply cannot take the weight of the cargo, will break or tip over. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al. Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: Many of the 'overloaded truck' photos are of lightweight cargo, in vast quantity. There does come a point where simple physics takes over, and a truck that simply cannot take the weight of the cargo, will break or tip over. Not always the case. China's weight limits are way above what we would allow on UK roads. Check out the weighbridge at 2:20. 130 tons on 4 axles. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Al. said: Not always the case. China's weight limits are way above what we would allow on UK roads. Check out the weighbridge at 2:20. 130 tons on 4 axles. Higher weight limits are one thing. Overloading will still break a truck not built for it. Pedant mode - 130 tons is on 7 axles in that photo. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Ok, trying to get somewhere believable (to Joe public). What's the view on this? Not sure if the floor is supposed to be wood, but can change that. Most things have gone badly today, but here's something which went well. Eight hours ago this was an all beige DB cargo truck, now it's a typical Chines 'blue truck' - I still need to paint the floor of the flatbed ... Edited March 28, 2021 by TEAMYAKIMA 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 I have been agonising for days as to whether my painting skills were good enough for the road vehicles, then I saw this on ebay ................ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HO-Scale-Ford-Mondeo-Ghia-Police-Car-Rietze-Ready-For-Your-Layout-1-87/264847872181?hash=item3daa29d0b5:g:O~QAAOSwJ0lfAmex 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 26/03/2021 at 09:34, TEAMYAKIMA said: Of course another idea would be to run the layout as 2001 on the Saturday of a show - with 50/50 steam/diesel on China Rail - and as 2005 on the Sunday - with China Rail totally steam free. Paul, your operating team would love that! Change half the stock instead of going down the pub! Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: I have been agonising for days as to whether my painting skills were good enough for the road vehicles, then I saw this on ebay ................ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HO-Scale-Ford-Mondeo-Ghia-Police-Car-Rietze-Ready-For-Your-Layout-1-87/264847872181?hash=item3daa29d0b5:g:O~QAAOSwJ0lfAmex That's what happens when you let a chameleon sh!t all over your model. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, bbishop said: Paul, your operating team would love that! Change half the stock instead of going down the pub! Bill Good morning Bill TBH It would only be swapping the China Rail steamers for diesels - the industrial steam would stay the same - all the rolling stock on China Rail would stay the same. That doesn't mean I'm going to do it though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 13 hours ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: What's the view on this? Not sure if the floor is supposed to be wood, but can change that. Still not keen, to be honest Another factor is that the roller should be chained down to the bed - and the chains would not go over the dropsides either, the tension needed to hold the roller would distort them. Such a truck is not going to be fitted with the anchoring points required; a low loader is. What would be more impressive on that truck would be something like those 'high & wide' loads, of something like cotton bales or plastic containers ... well roped on, of course.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al. Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: Good morning Bill TBH It would only be swapping the China Rail steamers for diesels - the industrial steam would stay the same - all the rolling stock on China Rail would stay the same. That doesn't mean I'm going to do it though! It’s still eating into our pub time. I think the vote is against you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: Good morning Bill TBH It would only be swapping the China Rail steamers for diesels - the industrial steam would stay the same - all the rolling stock on China Rail would stay the same. That doesn't mean I'm going to do it though! 7 minutes ago, Al. said: It’s still eating into our pub time. I think the vote is against you. Bold added - glad to hear it!! The vote would be against you from us punters too!! Not all of us get to go to both days of an Exhibition. Personally if I ever get to see this layout for real, I'd be a bit miffed if it was on the day there were no steam locos running, given that is the main focus of it - apart from the overloaded trucks 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Have been to B&Q today and bought a load of materials and started on a major upgrade on the layout which may or may not come off in the next few days/weeks, but more of that later - another secret project. Progress on the scenic section has been steady today but very slow. The truckstop mechanics have gained a trash bin........... I have been working on trucks. Last year I bought two identical trucks and repainted one in blue.................. It was suggested that Chinese box trucks are not typically blue (unlike open trucks) and so I repainted it light grey. I then realised I had already got a light grey truck and so I've repainted it again this time in dark grey - and I didn't like that look at all. So, finally after about 7/8 coats of paint ( each change needed several coats ) it's ended up in white and there is some kind of discussion/argument between the driver and his mate and the owner of the truckstop. What's it about? A failed repair? Damage done to the truck whilst they were having their breakfast? Asking for a quote for a repair? Sadly, we'll never know. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: Sadly, we'll never know. It's quite obvious to me. " 谁捏了我的后视镜 " 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al. Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: It's quite obvious to me. " 谁捏了我的后视镜 " Maybe we should get the local police involved to investigate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted March 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2021 "What colour did you want it?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ian Morgan said: What colour did you want it?" Anything other than Deutche Post really. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronL Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 18 hours ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: So, finally after about 7/8 coats of paint ( each change needed several coats ) it's ended up in white A few more coats of paint and it will end up OO scale. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 09:33, Al. said: It’s still eating into our pub time. I think the vote is against you. Paul, your operators are revolting. Bill (hat, coat, door) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Ha, ha! You can't see the missing wing mirrors now! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted March 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) Why? Is it behind that bloke having a wee in the wheel arch? Kev. (Edit for auto corrupt.) Edited March 29, 2021 by SHMD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 And while it might "need" mirrors, it might be even more funny to plant them smashed off on the ground 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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