Satan's Goldfish Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I think the option in your last picture helps the very front of the layout look less cluttered and a bit more balanced. IMHO. Either way it's looking good still, fantastic attention to detail on the different shop fronts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Your problem is the road you have running along the front edge, those loading bays need some space to turn lorries so they can back up to the doors and you don't have that. Now you could make a feature of that by creating a cameo of a truck causing an obstruction - the idea that the road was a lot narrower when the goods shed was built is not an incredible one in a fast developing country like China - but I would re-route the road so that it comes off the baseboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Your problem is the road you have running along the front edge, those loading bays need some space to turn lorries so they can back up to the doors and you don't have that. Now you could make a feature of that by creating a cameo of a truck causing an obstruction - the idea that the road was a lot narrower when the goods shed was built is not an incredible one in a fast developing country like China - but I would re-route the road so that it comes off the baseboard. I absolutely take your point - I am trying to squeeze a quart into a pint pot! The trouble is that the 'road' uses the Faller car system and so cars/vans will be moving along that road. I see it not so much as a defined road as a large tarmaced area where a car/van will take whatever route is the most direct to get from A to B. The dark strip is a magnetic strip to guide the cars/van and we will have to move it to accomodate the freight shed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I thought you might say the road was part of a Faller system loop! I take it you are depicting the present day - as far as is possible - in which case I would be inclined to seal up the roadside doorways and put a fence across to suggest that the goods shed is no longer used for public freight and any rail to road transfer is done direct from rail vehicle to road truck further along the siding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Sadly I haven't any pictures. I was in China a number of times from 2003 - 2008, and once rode the train from Guangzhou to Hong Hong, but the pictures I took were the usual - Tiananmen Square, Forbidden City kind of thing. Now if it were Thai railway pictures you wanted ......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 All options with regards this shed are still open - it's just that I've just paid £43 for it and I'd like to make use of it - as Gaugemaster won't take it back now! In use, out of use, with platforms, without platforms - everything is possible. I don't know enough about China Rail operations to know the most prototypical version for the timeline of my layout which is 2004/05, but here's a photo I took in 2004 ................ On another topic - I've finally finished all the window bars! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) All options with regards this shed are still open - it's just that I've just paid £43 for it and I'd like to make use of it - as Gaugemaster won't take it back now! In use, out of use, with platforms, without platforms - everything is possible. I don't know enough about China Rail operations to know the most prototypical version for the timeline of my layout which is 2004/05, but here's a photo I took in 2004 ................ In order to get this sorted in my mind I have consulted possibly the #1 China Rail expert for the period which I'm modelling - Michael Rhodes who visited the Ji-Tong line seven times in 2004/5 as part of the 'Extreme Steam' group. He reports that Jinpeng had a working freight shed at that time and he will send me photos over the weekend. Edited October 17, 2017 by TEAMYAKIMA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Preparing for next week's big work day when I will be setting up in the near-by church hall. Part of that is liasing with everyone to make sure everything we need is on site in time. As part of that process, the layout sign is on its way via Parcelforce as I write this..... Edited October 19, 2017 by TEAMYAKIMA 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 In the post today came some 3D printed China Rail point motors - they need a bit of cleaning up but the prototypes are distinctive and these look the part ... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just a question triggered by my own visits to China in 2004 and 2006. Are you going to put any mobile phone antennae on the top of those apartments (I went to try and sell software to China Mobile). I also remember seeing a street full of mobile phone shops in Chengdhu in 2006. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Having sort of been following this thread for a while, one thought that occurs to me (based on trips to China and Russia) is that a lot of the older railway infrastructure (goods sheds say) are almost if not identical to Russian structures. So photographs and models from Russia may be worth looking at. When of course you have nothing else to do - tongue in cheek Edited October 19, 2017 by Theakerr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 First of the 3D point motors fitted today ... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 We had an exhausting work day on the layout today - the big change is the layout sign is now fitted .... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Very, very busy working on the layout to-day. So busy that I forgot to take any photos until we were about to pack up! We were only running on the industrial system as that is where all the shunting takes place. Here are some random shots .. Part of the work involved fitting the 'full size' hotel interior into the low-relief hotel model - the foyer is twice the depth of the building itself! Edited October 24, 2017 by TEAMYAKIMA 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2017 Very, very busy working on the layout to-day. So busy that I forgot to take any photos until we were about to pack up! Here are some random shots .. DSC_0302.JPG DSC_0307.JPG DSC_0314.JPG DSC_0316.JPG DSC_0312.JPG Very nice Paul. The wide-angle shots really put everything into context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Have been off work for a couple of days and have been working on the freight depot - this is not it's final resting place - just a convenient spot to pose it. It still need work but the basics are in place ... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 Have spent the day working on the bridge which disguises the tracks leaving the scenic section and entering the fiddle yard at the right hand end. The industrial line disappears off at 1 in 30 as in this photo of Baiyin..... and I plan to recreate the uniquely Chinese retaining wall. At an early work session this section looked like this .... You will notice that my version is too vertical compared to the photo of Baiyin. After a day's work my wall looked more like the prototype ..... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted November 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2017 Splendid work!! I'm surprised China isn't more popular among railway enthusiasts as it is a huge and intensively operated railway with some impressive trains and now there are plenty of RTR models (including some beautiful brass models). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Splendid work!! I'm surprised China isn't more popular among railway enthusiasts as it is a huge and intensively operated railway with some impressive trains and now there are plenty of RTR models (including some beautiful brass models). To many British modellers this will always be 'foreign rubbish' and in the wider context China is not a popular cultural destination for British people unlike America or France or Germany. Meanwhile, some more progress has been made on the freight shed with a canopy added ... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signalist Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Have spent the day working on the bridge which disguises the tracks leaving the scenic section and entering the fiddle yard at the right hand end. The industrial line disappears off at 1 in 30 as in this photo of Baiyin..... and I plan to recreate the uniquely Chinese retaining wall. ... You will need more than just ground signals now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve W Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Paul, it's looking good and come on considerably since Ilast saw it in the 'man cave'. One thought, I know you want to keep that grey backscene colour and the reasons, but I can't help thinking something based on the above photo would look better as a sunset evening colour Cheers Steve 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Paul, it's looking good and come on considerably since Ilast saw it in the 'man cave'. One thought, I know you want to keep that grey backscene colour and the reasons, but I can't help thinking something based on the above photo would look better as a sunset evening colour ty1temp.jpg Cheers Steve Hello Steve I like what you've done there, but at this stage with our first exhibition looming and a million other things to do I don't want to get side tracked into that issue - maybe I can look again once everything else is done! BTW - here is an improved version of the tackplan of the scenic section ..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 When is that first exhibition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 When is that first exhibition? Bristol (Thornbury) on the first weekend of May 2018. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 I feel a bit guilty - I should be working on the layout - but I'm not. I'm working on rolling stock - so sort of working on the layout in a way. Just bought some TRAIN GARDEN C64k gondolas as they are so much cheaper than the Bachmann ones - just as a trial. There are two drawbacks with these cars..... 1. Very long, crude Kadee clone couplers 2. Crude ladders that stick out away from the body An hour's work and things look a lot better ..... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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