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Hi everyone

 

Well I have to say that these models have really caught me out, on how popular they would be. I only ordered eight of each to start with, and at the time of writing this we only have four 90005's left!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163703160968?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

I spoke to Bachmann yesterday, and all the 90's have been sold. Don't hang about making your mind up , get down to your local shop to purchase those Skoda's.

 

 I did though manage to order twenty more decoders, they should be arriving within the next two weeks. I'll let you all know when they arrive.

 

We have several DCC MK2F's in stock,  Unfortunately not many InterCity versions

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153501713462?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 39-686DC  £62.50

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153501712726?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649  39-675DC  £62.50

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163657884007?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 39--685DC  £62.50

 

Also we still have plenty of FGA & FFA's to go with 90037 & 90042

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163641994525?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649  38-627   £71.95

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153492971274?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649    38-628    £38.45

 

Once again guys and girls, thank you for your support

 

Cheers

 

Philip

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16 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said:

 

Is there a topic about it? I'd like to read up and stay up-to-date on the matter.

 

There have been topics raised about the dispute but they have been locked dues to the legal action being involved.

 

There is no reason why the 'dirty linen' so to speak needs to be aired in public however interesting it might be, so you will simply have to keep checking with Hattons website to see whether they have the latest Bachmann releases for purchase (or not).

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22 hours ago, sirwilliamfrs said:

Is it unusual that Rails have the Class 90 in stock but Hattons are not showing it as yet? Update- Hattons have assured me by telephone today that the Class 90s will be in next week.

That's interesting they are offering an assurance of one week, perhaps they have resolved it after all.

17 hours ago, BR Blue said:

I think it might be resolved. They got some Bachmann stock this week.

 

14 hours ago, BR Blue said:

They had mk2Fs in stock this week for the first time. 

But only Mk2Fs, still only a few diesels left in stock and the remaining steam stock appears to be from the September sale of the century.  Wonder how they got them, was it from Bachmann or via Olivias like Meatloaf and Ian Hargrave surmise.

 

Anyway, back to the 90s, they look very impressive as is Davidson Parkway.

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1 hour ago, phil-b259 said:

 

There have been topics raised about the dispute but they have been locked dues to the legal action being involved.

 

There is no reason why the 'dirty linen' so to speak needs to be aired in public however interesting it might be, so you will simply have to keep checking with Hattons website to see whether they have the latest Bachmann releases for purchase (or not).

 However it is conceivable that someone would have ordered a 90 from Hattons sometime in the last 5 years , before dispute, up to September 2018 in fact.  While there maybe on going legal issues, we really don’t know, surely Hattons should be informing their customers whether or not they can supply . The fact that Rails have them but apparently Hattons not is ominous .  Given what Phil CW is saying above it seems that you might need to be a bit fast on your feet if you want one of these. 

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Why does every (Bachmann) thread have to end up going on about Hattons, you do know there are other retailers who sell stuff for exactly the same price as Hattons and offer the same customer service  dont you!

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5 hours ago, LMS_LNER_SR_GWR_fan2004 said:

I noticed the Hornby 87 in the background. Any chance of a photo of the 2 together?

 

best regards, Matthew 

Here is as requested the Hornby class 87 and the Bachmann class 90

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After seeing the pictures above, I decided to take a 45 mile round trip (not to Liverpool!) to buy an Intercity one.  Well worth the petrol cost! 

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Hello, everyone. I’ve just got back home from a visit to Monk Bar Models, York. I purchased the Intercity 90, along with a DCC chip, and it is a beautiful runner, very controllable. I haven’t got the chip fitted as yet so cannot comment on the working of the pantograph. I will take a couple of photo’s after I have eaten my evening meal.

Now, availability at that shop is 5 Intercity left, 6 Freightliner, and 6 Railfreight Distribution Sector. Apparently no one knows they have them in stock! But the one problem is that Bachmann only sent three DCC chips. So since I’ve bought one that leaves two. If you want a DCC 90 from there, you’ll have to be very quick, or they will be DC only.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

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1 hour ago, JaesonPryer said:

Here is as requested the Hornby class 87 and the Bachmann class 90

 

Both locos looking fabulous.

 

Great to see new AC electric locos at last - we've waited long enough.

 

86/2 and 86/4 next please!

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It’s good to see the 90’s have arrived, they look great and I will shortly be getting the powerhaul model via Rainbow Railways. 

 

I think we will see the colourful 86/2 and 86/4’s develop from Heljan following on from the 86/0 so it’s just a case of waiting for that to happen. 

 

Cheers

Mark

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27 minutes ago, cravensdmufan said:

Both locos looking fabulous.

 

Great to see new AC electric locos at last - we've waited long enough.

 

86/2 and 86/4 next please!

86/0 next surely, courtesy of Heljan.

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1 minute ago, royaloak said:

86/0 next surely, courtesy of Heljan.

Indeed - but I'm still hoping that someone will do more modern versions of the 86.  There was talk some couple of years back that two manufacturers were considering an 86.  So who was the other one?  Hornby sometimes suddenly pull something out the hat (eg brand new Terrier). Wishful thinking, maybe?....

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I still think Hornby might just beat the Danes to an 86/2...they do seem protective of their current model range, witness the spat with Rails over some kettle named after a dog.  The old 1980 86/2 was quite good for the time and has been a hardy perennial ever since, so given the all new 87 seems to have hit the mark (DCC fitting excepted) it wouldn't surprise me if one breaks cover towards the end of the year.  There again, I've said that before, so don't trust Mystic Wombat's predictions that much.

Ordered an Intercity 90 seeing as they seem to be selling out quickly but will wait for a sound chip before I dcc it.  I'm looking to renumber and rename as many of my out of the box AC electrics with Midlands themed names, so I'll be wanting to rename it as "BBC Midlands Today", not the most imaginative of names but I did once appear on a feature on the programme.  It really does look the business.

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Collected my Powerhaul 90042 yesterday.... WOW. 

It may have taken 5 years but what a model. I’ve installed the Bachmann servo decoder for the Panto but not had chance for the additional bufferbeam parts. Couldnt resist a hasty table shot with fellow recently arrived Powerhaul 08624.

 

EWS next please....

 

Well worth the money.

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47 minutes ago, chris37422 said:

 

Thank you for the photos of the Freightliner 90. It looks excellent. Have to say I didn't plan on buying one but I am really tempted to now. 

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Well, everyone, here’s the promised photo’s. Enjoy. 

 

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Best regards,

 

Rob.

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Anyone got a photo of the prototype showing the TOPS number on the individual roof panels?

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1 hour ago, Market65 said:

Well, everyone, here’s the promised photo’s.

Good clear close up photos Rob, thanks very much for posting.

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Cant wait to get my hands on this.. how long before someone does 90046 in the newer version of Freightliner livery including the G&Y branding,  on the 90's, seen this am at Euston (and 2 weeks back at KX) on the sleepers..

 

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14 hours ago, chris37422 said:

 

Great pictures thanks.

Looks like the horn grill has had bird strike lol

My IC and RF ones are on their way.

 

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15 hours ago, wombatofludham said:

I still think Hornby might just beat the Danes to an 86/2...they do seem protective of their current model range, witness the spat with Rails over some kettle named after a dog.  The old 1980 86/2 was quite good for the time and has been a hardy perennial ever since, so given the all new 87 seems to have hit the mark (DCC fitting excepted) it wouldn't surprise me if one breaks cover towards the end of the year.  There again, I've said that before, so don't trust Mystic Wombat's predictions that much.

Ordered an Intercity 90 seeing as they seem to be selling out quickly but will wait for a sound chip before I dcc it.  I'm looking to renumber and rename as many of my out of the box AC electrics with Midlands themed names, so I'll be wanting to rename it as "BBC Midlands Today", not the most imaginative of names but I did once appear on a feature on the programme.  It really does look the business.

Looks like Heljan will be there first on the 86.... ...... As for sound chips. I think when reconfigured the new Loksound v5 will be able to power the servo on the pan. so asking Charlie petty or Biff would answer that. My biggest question and the one I cannot get an answer to is the pan itself. How high will it go? It certainly doesn't look anything like high enough for running on wires? In reality the pan should be softly sprung and extend several millimetres beyond where the wire lies to leave pan head running on wire under light pressure? Anyone help us? Don't want the most beautiful locomotive on Wellpark to be the only one whose pan head doesn't run on the wires? 

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11 minutes ago, gridwatcher said:

Looks like Heljan will be there first on the 86.... ...... As for sound chips. I think when reconfigured the new Loksound v5 will be able to power the servo on the pan. so asking Charlie petty or Biff would answer that. My biggest question and the one I cannot get an answer to is the pan itself. How high will it go? It certainly doesn't look anything like high enough for running on wires? In reality the pan should be softly sprung and extend several millimetres beyond where the wire lies to leave pan head running on wire under light pressure? Anyone help us? Don't want the most beautiful locomotive on Wellpark to be the only one whose pan head doesn't run on the wires? 

My understanding from the video posted here is that the max height of the pan can be adjusted with CVs and there is a section where Andy Y confirms it is indeed softly sprung when raised. 

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41 minutes ago, philiprporter said:

My understanding from the video posted here is that the max height of the pan can be adjusted with CVs and there is a section where Andy Y confirms it is indeed softly sprung when raised. 

After fiddling with cv’s I’ve found setting cv 163 to 230  and cv 162 to 70 gets the pan much higher while still having a little slack to avoid damage. If you get the Bachmann decoder it gives a handy breakdown of what the pan specific cvs do and what they are set to from factory. 

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7 minutes ago, Br60066 said:

After fiddling with cv’s I’ve found setting cv 163 to 230  and cv 162 to 70 gets the pan much higher while still having a little slack to avoid damage. If you get the Bachmann decoder it gives a handy breakdown of what the pan specific cvs do and what they are set to from factory. 

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Philip

 

Is there 'bounce' in the pan when extended too? No point it being up and rigid? The whole thing is real contact wires go up and down and pans move to follow them. I was hard enough setting everything up to be realistic on Wellpark.......! Will be giving Ian (Biff) a ping to see where he's at on the sound decoder. 

 

Thanks for update

 

Si

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25 minutes ago, gridwatcher said:

Philip

 

Is there 'bounce' in the pan when extended too? No point it being up and rigid? The whole thing is real contact wires go up and down and pans move to follow them. I was hard enough setting everything up to be realistic on Wellpark.......! Will be giving Ian (Biff) a ping to see where he's at on the sound decoder. 

 

Thanks for update

 

Si

Hello Si yes there is gently sprung bounce in the pan when extended although I can't comment on the extent of any bounce when the pan is raised to its absolute maximum as I've only seen one with the pan height set 'out of the box'. Hope that helps? Cheers, Phil. 

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