RMweb Gold 46444 Posted January 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2019 TMC are having a bit of a sale at the moment including two of the Baldwins. Welsh Highland 590 £101.50 Ashover Hummy £108.50 https://www.themodelcentre.com/narrow-gauge/?sort=alphaasc With £3.50 Royal Mail tracked postage. A good offer and in my case another renaming project . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 According to Boyd, the Ffestiniog ALCO Mountaineer weighs about 17 tons. Has a longer wheelbase, larger wheels and cylinders than either the Baldwin or Hunslet 4-6-0's - it seems to be a bigger machine all round than the Baldwin.Boyd lies and fabricates information without foundation regularly just bear in mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Boyd lies and fabricates information without foundation regularly just bear in mind Really? I have a number of his books, can I ask for some examples? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Boyd lies and fabricates information without foundation regularly just bear in mind Please substantiate that scurrilous remark or withdraw it ! Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub45565 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Lies is harsh... but there are descrepancies and unknowns which he filled in adding 2+2, but making 5. The problem is once it is in print, it is too easy to take as gospel. These days, there is a wealth of information available to researchers which just wasn't in the public domain when Boyd was writing. One example is the Welsh Highland Railway carriage numbering - a matter which is cleared up in a booklet printed by the WHHR/64 co. On a slight tangent - as I said in the main Bachmann 2019 announcement topic - I'd like to know where Bachmann have got the idea that 590 was lined when painted red/maroon/lake in 1934, as I have seen no reference or evidence of it before! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2019 I think Boyd took the first source and made some, logical to him, assumptions and didn’t check that well rather than deliberately misleading people. It’s widely known there are discrepancies but as with all research you should compare multiple sources and photos. The books are still a very valuable collection of photos. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2019 I'd like to know where Bachmann have got the idea that 590 was lined when painted red/maroon/lake in 1934, as I have seen no reference or evidence of it before! They found some plates with it on and once they’d found that could confirm what they thought in the others too. Question was asked at the launch day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I think Boyd took the first source and made some, logical to him, assumptions and didn’t check that well rather than deliberately misleading people. It’s widely known there are discrepancies but as with all research you should compare multiple sources and photos. The books are still a very valuable collection of photos. Which is pretty much what any historian, in any subject has to do. An educated guess may very well be wrong, but its a world away from misleading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Really? I have a number of his books, can I ask for some examples?He fabricated some hocum about this Lewin having something to do with the north wales slate industry, and being called George Sholto, which is total fiction, but sorry to get off topic, back to Bachmann 009 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) He fabricated some hocum about this Lewin having something to do with the north wales slate industry, and being called George Sholto, which is total fiction, but sorry to get off topic, back to Bachmann 009 IMG_20190114_181944.jpgThat’s an extraordinary loco, any further details? EDIT - this, apparently https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10952 Edited January 17, 2019 by rockershovel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) He fabricated some hocum about this Lewin having something to do with the north wales slate industry, and being called George Sholto, which is total fiction, but sorry to get off topic, back to Bachmann 009 IMG_20190114_181944.jpg 'Fabricated' implies intent - I sincerely doubt that. It never ceases to astonish me that today's armchair 'historians', with all the resources of digitised archives at their disposal, can be so condescendingly superior - no, dismissive - of those who compiled their writings by plain, hard, foot-slogging research amongst what was available to them at that time. If they hadn't done so, there would not have been the prolonged interest in their subjects that has enabled their successors to fill in the detail and correct the odd error. Regards, John Isherwood. Edited January 17, 2019 by cctransuk 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 'Fabricated' implies intent - I sincerely doubt that. It never ceases to astonish me that today's armchair 'historians', with all the resources of digitised archives at their disposal, can be so condescendingly superior - no, dismissive - of those who compiled their writings by plain, hard, foot-slogging research amongst what was available to them at that time. If they hadn't done so, there would not have been the prolonged interest in their subjects that has enabled their successors to fill in the detail and correct the odd error. Regards, John Isherwood. “Historical method” developed slowly over time. The very first “antiquarians”, the likes of Leland and Cobbett, were content to report local verbal traditions, direct observation, personal inference and (very limited) actual research from primary sources pretty much interchangeably. In my student days around the Cornish mining areas, there was a prolific writer on the subject called Hamilton Jenkins, who relied heavily on local verbal sources. He was awarded an honorary degree in due course, but never formally studied. A lot of the detail in HJ is good, some of it apocryphal, some of it confused or confusing. But you may as well take it as good, because it is the best interpretation of an experienced local observer recording detail for which there is no other source. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Has anyone had a crack at repainting one, I fancy trying to put a cabbed on in Southern Malachite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 PEGGY anyone?? Due to a cancelled pre order TIM at ARCADIA RAIL has ONE only in stock now Peggy is the red liveried one Tel 01706882900 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted June 6, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2019 I noticed on Sunday that the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway shop still has the full original range of Baldwins in stock, including the much sought after 'Peggy.' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hastings Thumper Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Livery sample of Southern 'Sid' at the GCR model railway event. Quite tempted to add a 009 branch to the layout for this one ............ 7 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) I am surprised that Bachmann do not state in the loco instructions that the model is fitted with a coreless motor and should not be run as 'Loco #0' on a DCC system. The few instructions that I have seen for Farish N-gauge locos with similar motors are conversely, quite clear in their warnings. Edited June 27, 2019 by MartinTrucks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) On 16/06/2019 at 13:18, Hastings Thumper said: Livery sample of Southern 'Sid' at the GCR model railway event. Quite tempted to add a 009 branch to the layout for this one ............ Freelance or not, I do like that myself, along with the dairy wagon behind. Will be purchasing myself (although a rename could well be on the cards - not a fan of ‘Sid’) Edited June 27, 2019 by Edge 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hastings Thumper Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 And here's the full view of the Express Dairy van ......... 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hastings Thumper Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 While still on tour, this time at the Bluebell Railway model show - here's a couple of views with SR bogie wagons, 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Kernow put all of the new liveries for the bogie opens/vans as well as the Tallylyn slate wagon packs on their coming soon page. Normally meaning that the items are only a few weeks away. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted July 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2019 Wow, looks great in SR green. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Yes, Sid does look rather lovely and tempting. I rather like the standard gauge insulated and dairies van liveries. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Sid is due in September. The bogie vans and wagons (which are OO9) are due this month according to the last published schedule. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 All the Baldwin locos are due November according to the Bachmann availability page, apart from ROD 542 which is due October. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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