Gibbo675 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, russ p said: On one of your pictures Paul, it shows the headstock with twin pipes but there is also something which looks like a jumper socket. Was this something to do with the locking system from the pre ISO system. There was a set a few years ago at Parkestone which still had some remnants of this system. I suppose there must have been batteries and dynamos involved on the original ones? Hi Russ, Early Freightliner flats certainly were fitted with battery boxes similar, although possibly smaller, to those fitted to coaching stock. I don't know of any sort of dynamo or charging system though. Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Paul, It seems to me that the original Freightliner trains mostly carried Freightliner boxes as they were the most widely available boxes at the time being provided especially for the service. In the following years the ratio of Freightliner to private owner boxes changed along with more trains being run thereby giving the impression that there were fewer Freightliner boxes in service by the 1980's. It would also tally that with the increase in private owner boxes and also the huge growth of international companies leasing boxes Freightliner would have not replaced boxes once due for renewal, the originals being built in the mid to late 1960's. In more recent times Freightliner seem to have concentrated upon running just the trains rather than leasing boxes. Perhaps someone may be able to confirm or correct me on my thoughts. Gibbo. That is what I said. The maritime became increasingly important. But Fords for example had many containers worked in block trains, as did Sainsburys and others discussed here - as has been noted Tri-ang did a good job of reflecting some of the variety of private containers. However Freightliner went on having new build containers until the late 1980s. My link shows some of these, and See Roger Silsbury chapter 8 in Collins, Michael J (1991) Freightliner (Life & Times series) pub Foulis-OPC 128 pages, ISBN 0-88093-455-1 Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 A couple from British transport films.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold russ p Posted May 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2020 The AL6 looks to be rail blue as opposed to electric blue . Very nice colour scheme 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 They were rail blue. Meant to include this also. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Can anyone identify the type of coach behind the 47? My Bachmann wagons have arrived, they are very nice. Just a casual interest but has anyone modelled any 27ft containers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Michael Delamar said: Can anyone identify the type of coach behind the 47? My Bachmann wagons have arrived, they are very nice. Just a casual interest but has anyone modelled any 27ft containers? Hi Michael, The coach behind the 47 looks to be an LMS Stanier period three of some sort, the coaches used were in the main brake third coaches of various although that particular one does not appear to be. There were BR Mk1 suburban brakes used for guards riding vans also and latterly such coaches were painted plain rail grey and some also had the windows plated over. Some early boxes: Page two onwards has some container box activity starting with a caboose that the coaches replaced on page two and also various other boxes starting on page eleven. Gibbo. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 The coach behind the 47 is the LMS dynamometer car, the other one is a 6 wheel stove R. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, markw said: The coach behind the 47 is the LMS dynamometer car, the other one is a 6 wheel stove R. Same one as on the front of the Mecanno magazine linked to on the last page? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Conversion to EM gauge, pulling wheels out on existing axles. Made a little trickier because of the disc brakes and trimming a little bit of plastic from the back of the bogie sides will help. Edited May 13, 2020 by Michael Delamar 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Gibbo675 said: Can just make out the white “through piped” Air pipe which these coaches will have had to have had added. So they cant have just used any old coach there must have been some dedicated ones. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 14 hours ago, Michael Delamar said: Can just make out the white “through piped” Air pipe which these coaches will have had to have had added. So they cant have just used any old coach there must have been some dedicated ones. There were 60 converted for this use, details of old and new numbers are in Table 5 of chapter 7 of the previously mentioned Collins book, and also get a mention in the various more recent books by Longworth. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Thanks Paul, I ordered the Michael Collins book a few days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Flickr link, some Interesting early containers. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 My rake converted to EM and having a run, run really nice, containers are just placed on here as I haven't done the spigots yet. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Michael Delamar said: Flickr link, some Interesting early containers. Hi Michael, Interesting photograph you have found there. The box in the foreground is 003C York Trailers, lot 3510, 27', The 27' open is either 001J, 002J or 003J more research required for that one. The background container boxes are from right to left: 002A Shildon, 1964, lot 3486, 10'. 002C Duralumin, 1964, lot 3504, 27'. 001C Shildon, 1964, lot 3488, 27'. 001A Shildon, 1964, lot 3486, 10'. The flat wagons that the boxes in the background are mounted on are the prototype 40' wagons built at Shildon in 1964 numbers B601001/2 Outers and B602001/2 Inners, see below: Gibbo. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 What is the BTF video these photos were taken from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Forward to first principles and The great highway. My Michael Collins book arrived today and it reminded me of a shot which I had forgotten about and that was the new Ford containers for the Belgium service at Brunswick Liverpool. One train I may recreate in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Dallam, Flickr link.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Looks like a grey coach on the rear. Flickr link.. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Flickr link.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Having a flick through 1960s copies of Modern railways... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham108 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 That must be one of the biggest 'train-sets' in the country 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Some more.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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