Andy Y Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 Kernow Model Rail Centre Press Release - latest batch of Beattie Well Tanks delivered We have taken delivery of a further batch of the award-winning Beattie Well Tank which includes a newly-announced version. K2056 features number 30587 finished in BR Black livery with late crest. This is an extra run of this model as the previous version sold out very quickly. K2058 features number 30585 finished in BR Black livery with early emblem. This model has not been previously announced. Both versions feature 6 pin DCC sockets and are also available DCC Fitted. The price is £109.99 DCC Ready or £129.99 DCC Fitted. All are available for immediate delivery and further information can be obtained from the dedicated page on our website http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/pg/108/Beattie_Well_Tanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Mine arrived today. Simply stunning piece of kit, with a very nice array of detailing parts to fit as well.Look forward to testing it later. Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfan76 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hi all, mine arrived today. While the model's looks are absolutely stunning I'm not too happy with its running qualities. The model seems to struggle on a second radius oval I set up for letting her run in. It makes a grinding noise when running through the curves (especially when running forward) and feels a little sticky. It seems to be a little better when the loco is on 3rd radius curves. Does someone else experience such issues? Since I live in Germany I'd rather avoid returning the model to KMRC, so any help is really appreciated. Apologies if this has already been discussed (and for my rather unsophisticated English as well) Regards Lars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hi Lars, Sorry to hear your having problems, I found that the majority of the very few returned models needed their gears oiled, and a drop of oil on each connecting rod point, and then run on about half power for 10 minutes in each direction. If you have a rolling road then that's perfect, but if not, suspend driving wheels on something placed across your track so that they are free of the rail but picking up power through the non driven wheels. This will allow you to run the loco with lubrication and it should settle down completely. Hope this helps. Cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfan76 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Thanks for your help, Dave! Currently giving her the standard running-in period of 30mins in each direction, let's see how she behaves afterwards. Regards Lars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Will they ever drop below the £100 mark do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Will they ever drop below the £100 mark do you think? Each run seems to sell out, so I doubt it. As long as they are popular and Kernow can keep selling them I see no reason why they would drop the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Will they ever drop below the £100 mark do you think? If anything the price will start going up as prices from China have been held this past year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 If anyone is interested in representing the class in LSWR days, there is now a topic in the Pre-Grouping section of the site that is concentrating on the use of RTR models for representing the LSWR, one of several topics appearing to consider how RTR models might be used for earlier periods. The topic includes the Radial, M7, Well Tank, rolling stock etc and is to be found here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/115499-using-rtr-models-to-represent-the-lswr/page-1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) Has anyone managed to successfully convert one of these to EM gauge? I'm tempted to go EM in a layout I'm planning but I've heard how tricky it is to convert these and I don't want to lose my BWT as a result of this. Edited April 3, 2018 by GWR8700 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted April 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2018 Has anyone managed to successfully convert one of these to EM gauge? I'm tempted to go EM in a layout I'm planning but I've heard how tricky it is to convert these and I don't want to lose my BWT as a result of this. I looked at converting one to P4 when they first came out. I think it is almost a non-starter in that gauge as the splashers require removal to allow the the wider wheels. Coupled with the split axles and twin geared drive, I left well alone! I believe Ultrascale converted one for a customer; however, the cost was £100 plus if I remember rightly. I suspect a complete chassis rebuilt would be easier, but not something I am prepared to do. Kind regards, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Emery Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Dear All, Does anyone know where I can obtain a Beattie Well Tank with square splashes? Another model I have missed-out on. Kindest, Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iltman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Dear All, Does anyone know where I can obtain a Beattie Well Tank with square splashes? Another model I have missed-out on. Kindest, Andrew Try E Bay, but they’re rare and go quickly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2018 Has anyone managed to successfully convert one of these to EM gauge? I'm tempted to go EM in a layout I'm planning but I've heard how tricky it is to convert these and I don't want to lose my BWT as a result of this. Yes : http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/82968-niles-mostly-freelance-bodging-bench-improving-oxfords-adams-radial/page-18&do=findComment&comment=2067946 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Emery Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Try E Bay, but they’re rare and go quickly Apart from eBay, which is sanctioned and not available here.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Are there any plans (or even possible?) for another run of well tanks? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Mr chapman said: Are there any plans (or even possible?) for another run of well tanks? You would have to ask Kernow MRC. They respond quickly to emails and probably prefer those to a phone call whilst on limited staffing under present circumstances. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 16/09/2020 at 23:50, Mr chapman said: Are there any plans (or even possible?) for another run of well tanks? Look at the EFE thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) There is a review of the new green BWT by Sams Trains on youtube. I've always been sceptical of his reviews but this takes the biscuit. This model was model of the year in 2011, but he totally slates it. He complains (as he often does) that it is make of cheap plastic not metal, disregarding the fact that, even to this day, detail is generally slightly finer in plastic. (indeed he seems to slate all models that don't have any major metal components in them...) Yes we know it isn't the heavest model, but it can haul what the prototype is asked of. He criticises the magnetic smokebox door, having previously praised the same feature on the latest Dapol GWR Mogul. Yes it does seem that the decoration of the green sample isn't quite up to the standards of the original Dapol releases back in 2011, in terms of painted detail and tidy gluing, but still... He has a warped sence of price that seems to be stuck in the mid-2000s (anything over £100 is expensive!) He complains about the toy-like quality of the model, but then tests in on a CARPET BASED LAYOUT... one of the biggest errors in modelling, and a sure way to wreck fine non-toy models. Watching the review of this fine piece of engineering made me really quite angry. Yes the BWT isn't quite up to the standards of 2020, but it is still a fine model that really started the trend in retailer commissions. Rant over Edited November 22, 2020 by G-BOAF 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Watching the review of this fine piece of engineering made me really quite angry. Do as I do - have nothing whatsoever to do with reviews, unboxings, bloggers, influencers, social media (with the exception of RMweb), etc., etc. Form your own opinions, and simply ignore the existence of the myriads of self-publicists who add nothing whatsoever to the quality of life, or to the (sadly diminished) standards of today's society and ethics. John Isherwood. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: There is a review of the new green BWT by Sams Trains on youtube. I've always been sceptical of his reviews but this takes the biscuit. This model was model of the year in 2011, but he totally slates it. He complains (as he often does) that it is make of cheap plastic not metal, disregarding the fact that, even to this day, detail is generally slightly finer in plastic. (indeed he seems to slate all models that don't have any major metal components in them...) Yes we know it isn't the heavest model, but it can haul what the prototype is asked of. He criticises the magnetic smokebox door, having previously praised the same feature on the latest Dapol GWR Mogul. Yes it does seem that the decoration of the green sample isn't quite up to the standards of the original Dapol releases back in 2011, in terms of painted detail and tidy gluing, but still... He has a warped sence of price that seems to be stuck in the mid-2000s (anything over £100 is expensive!) He complains about the toy-like quality of the model, but then tests in on a CARPET BASED LAYOUT... one of the biggest errors in modelling, and a sure way to wreck fine non-toy models. Watching the review of this fine piece of engineering made me really quite angry. Yes the BWT isn't quite up to the standards of 2020, but it is still a fine model that really started the trend in retailer commissions. Rant over I watched his video on the Rails Terrier yesterday, he was quite scathing of that too. It may be that he is over compensating for his lack of prototype knowledge but he did correctly call out the bent chassis on the Rails/Dapol Terrier which is a fault. But as John intimates above, many people on the web who do reviews do so more for the attention than for the need to impart knowledge on the viewer. The blurring of the relationships between some of these online channels and the retailers doesn't help as it makes me think product placement when some channels begin using certain retailers models regularly in their recordings and mention the shops many times in conversations. Sadly when it comes to Sam I think of Hattons and it doesn't help when the two models he has recently pulled apart are not ones sold by Hattons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Yep, I usually avoid them. I do have a look at some of the magazine ones where they are running on a proper layout. Mostly to see their running capabilities. There was a good one posted of the MR 0-4-4T the other day. I couldn't find one for the BWT. But this style is more my cup of tea. Also pretty short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted November 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2020 Personally when I'm considering a model to buy as a marginal 'want' I often read magazine reviews first, and then any video reviews there might be. Every video is flawed in some way, by incorrect facts, or by links to a shop/manufacturer or other tacky promotion in the middle, or by sheer ignorance, but they do generally add to my overall feel for what I might be buying. For instance the BWT review mentioned above did give the models weight, which I don't recall being stated anywhere else. 105g by the way, which I think makes it about the lightest of any recent model I can recall, apart from the Dapol B4. That is useful to know, and it's much more likely to be an issue on layouts with poor track and/or gradients. And in some ways I do prefer the people who have bought their own model anonymously (even if ultimately paid for by 'superchat' donations) than those who are loaned models under who knows what reciprocal arrangements, but without the editorial standards of a magazine publisher - who themselves are often accused of moderating their reviews to protect their ad revenue and/or access to future loan models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 03/11/2020 at 12:17, Steamport Southport said: Look at the EFE thread. Yeah - but there not being a topic dedicated to the Well Tank on EFE, this is seems to be the logical place to continue discussing what is basically the same product just under a different badge ....................... and, for some unfathomable reason, now available in Adams lime green with Bulleid insignia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, Wickham Green too said: ... for some unfathomable reason, now available in Adams lime green with Bulleid insignia. Because, at one time, it was 'preserved' in that livery in the Dart Valley Railway museum - or so we are told. John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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