Parthia27 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Don't know if this has been mentioned else-where on here, but the following new HO product announcements have come up over the last few days on the Trainorders board: Exactrail Their new HO release is to be the General Steel Castings (GSC) 53’-6” Flat Car with 43’-3” and 42'-0" Truck Centers. Cars will have full underbody details and laser cut wooden decking. Pictures showed cars in NP and UP liveries. Not sure if BN and other liveries will be offered. No release date is mentioned. Tangent Their new release will be the HO Scale General American Dry-Flo covered hopper. Details can be found at http://www.tangentscalemodels.com. Athearn Genesis The rumoured new HO release is thought to be a F89 Bi-level Auto-rack. Possible details at http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=athearn+bi-level Nothing as yet on the retooled model, believed to be a locomotive - hopefully a Genesis standard GP39-2 or C44-9W / AC4400 Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Tangent Their new release will be the HO Scale General American Dry-Flo covered hopper. Details can be found at http://www.tangentscalemodels.com. Specifically https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/general-american-dry-flo-covered-hopper/ I'm not sure how long these lasted, but they look nice. I might have to do some patching on one to add some more plastics hopper variety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbonnetuk Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Athearn will be making their official announcment at 10am EST according to their Facebook feed Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthia27 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Specifically https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/general-american-dry-flo-covered-hopper/ I'm not sure how long these lasted, but they look nice. I might have to do some patching on one to add some more plastics hopper variety. Just been looking through the BN guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment and there are no pictures of this car, Only one BN photo on the web at http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40949. The Tangent blog states that some of these cars lasted well into the 1990s. There is no reference to these cars in the BNSF rosters that I have and the Trinity 3 Bay Hoppers that now occupy this number series were introduced from 2000 onwards so that may answer your question from a BN perspective. I'll go hunting in my other books later to see if I can dig up more info. Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The description for the UP one says 'This car screams UP 1980s pride.' so 90s seem perfectly plausible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Arnold Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Don't know if this has been mentioned else-where on here, but the following new HO product announcements have come up over the last few days on the Trainorders board: Exactrail Their new HO release is to be the General Steel Castings (GSC) 53’-6” Flat Car with 43’-3” and 42'-0" Truck Centers. Cars will have full underbody details and laser cut wooden decking. Pictures showed cars in NP and UP liveries. Not sure if BN and other liveries will be offered. No release date is mentioned. Tangent Their new release will be the HO Scale General American Dry-Flo covered hopper. Details can be found at http://www.tangentscalemodels.com. Athearn Genesis The rumoured new HO release is thought to be a F89 Bi-level Auto-rack. Possible details at http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=athearn+bi-level Nothing as yet on the retooled model, believed to be a locomotive - hopefully a Genesis standard GP39-2 or C44-9W / AC4400 Cheers Chris Don't know if this has been mentioned else-where on here, but the following new HO product announcements have come up over the last few days on the Trainorders board: Exactrail Their new HO release is to be the General Steel Castings (GSC) 53’-6” Flat Car with 43’-3” and 42'-0" Truck Centers. Cars will have full underbody details and laser cut wooden decking. Pictures showed cars in NP and UP liveries. Not sure if BN and other liveries will be offered. No release date is mentioned. Tangent Their new release will be the HO Scale General American Dry-Flo covered hopper. Details can be found at http://www.tangentscalemodels.com. Athearn Genesis The rumoured new HO release is thought to be a F89 Bi-level Auto-rack. Possible details at http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=athearn+bi-level Nothing as yet on the retooled model, believed to be a locomotive - hopefully a Genesis standard GP39-2 or C44-9W / AC4400 Cheers Chris It could be an SD40-2 they are moving up to Genesis standard - not sure if there is a give away in the facebook header but the photo of NS #3215 says it has SKU#ATHG98265 but is then listred as an RTR SD40-2 if you do a search; price is also RTR level. Was the G put in to confuse ius? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Arnold Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 BLMA just sent me a flyer for a new N scale 60' GSC flat car in ATSF, BN, IC, PRR, SSW and Wabash at $22.95 due early 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Just been looking through the BN guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment and there are no pictures of this car, Only one BN photo on the web at http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40949. The Tangent blog states that some of these cars lasted well into the 1990s. There is no reference to these cars in the BNSF rosters that I have and the Trinity 3 Bay Hoppers that now occupy this number series were introduced from 2000 onwards so that may answer your question from a BN perspective. I'll go hunting in my other books later to see if I can dig up more info. Cheers Chris I used to see BN ones in quantity at a local sugar converter well into the mid 1980s at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthia27 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 The NS # 3215 is apparently an SD40-2 promoting the NMRA Cleveland Convention and is offered in their RTR range due for release in March next year. Would be typical for them to announce a Genesis SD40-2 though, as I've got two on the workbench! My money would be on an SD40 or SDP40F as some have suggested although IMHO if not an SD40-2 then I think a C44-9W, to Genesis standard, which is representative of the types commonly operated by each of their owners would be a no brainer. I currently have non on my BNSF roster as the Kato shell is only good for the ex ATSF locos and the RTR model still needs some work. I know MTH have one in the pipeline but their SD70ACe is no where near the recent standards set by Genesis for their SD70ACe and ES44AC. Would love a GP39-2 Phase 2 but that is not likely. Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Model railroader prelim show new products report Personally I like to see pictures of layouts. Sigh. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Model railroader prelim show new products report Personally I like to see pictures of layouts. Sigh. Andy I got a bit excited when i saw the UPFE 57' sound Reefer mentioned as I thought it could be a retool to suit a proper PFE car, but unfortunately it's just a patched scheme: http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=upfe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Thoughts on the new Rivarossi/Hornby America U25C? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Thoughts on the new Rivarossi/Hornby America U25C? image.jpg Are we allowed to mention bar section handrails? Other than that pretty cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Henriksen Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Personally I like to see pictures of layouts. Sigh. You may yet get your wish. Model Railroad Hobbyist has their set of pictures up at http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/18553 He mentions in one of his posts that taking pictures of layouts will be done the next day, I would assume to also be posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 New Athearn SD40, not in the Genesis range but with sound options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Fox Valley Models are doing a GP60 / GP60B / GP60M in HO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbonnetuk Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 From the pics on their website the MTH the ATSF version has the same detail features as the current Athearn RTR version. Thus is is incorrect in a substantial no of areas for the BNSFbonnets they are doing in their initial run. Here's hoping a Genesis version with all the correct detail variation. Dan The NS # 3215 is apparently an SD40-2 promoting the NMRA Cleveland Convention and is offered in their RTR range due for release in March next year. Would be typical for them to announce a Genesis SD40-2 though, as I've got two on the workbench! My money would be on an SD40 or SDP40F as some have suggested although IMHO if not an SD40-2 then I think a C44-9W, to Genesis standard, which is representative of the types commonly operated by each of their owners would be a no brainer. I currently have non on my BNSF roster as the Kato shell is only good for the ex ATSF locos and the RTR model still needs some work. I know MTH have one in the pipeline but their SD70ACe is no where near the recent standards set by Genesis for their SD70ACe and ES44AC. Would love a GP39-2 Phase 2 but that is not likely. Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbonnetuk Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Fox Valley Models are doing a GP60 / GP60B / GP60M in HO. Just as I'm about to start working over a couple of Athearn GP60M's for Hacienda Ave..... That said if anyone has a BNSFbonnet scheme one they'd like to trade up I'd be interested Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthia27 Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 Murphys Law strikes again, just as you are about to start a new project someone goes and releases a RTR version. Also just had a look at the Dash 9s on the MTH web site, there is no evidence of the changes I would look for in a BNSF model, looks like my six axle BNSF fleet will be made up of AC units other than for a few Intermountain ES44DC GEVOS. Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Has the Peco code 83 line double slip switch been mentioned before!?! Looks useful to me! Stock wise, there's a heck of a lot to tempt me - just as well I'm spent up! Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Murphys Law strikes again, just as you are about to start a new project someone goes and releases a RTR version. Also just had a look at the Dash 9s on the MTH web site, there is no evidence of the changes I would look for in a BNSF model, looks like my six axle BNSF fleet will be made up of AC units other than for a few Intermountain ES44DC GEVOS. No, they seem to have copied the same early prototypes as the existing RTR models, usefully (not!) if you're trying to model one of the 1500-ish (from memory) BNSF ones that look different! Wonder if it's just that there's published drawings of them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbonnetuk Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 The current Dash 9's are good for the SF 600 series and that's it. The 700 series as delivered in the BNSF version of Warbonnet had the 4 window cab sides, top mounted ditchlights and those raised panels on the long hood behind the cab as s starter for 10 Dan No, they seem to have copied the same early prototypes as the existing RTR models, usefully (not!) if you're trying to model one of the 1500-ish (from memory) BNSF ones that look different! Wonder if it's just that there's published drawings of them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 The 9xx-11xx H1 machines also have the older window arrangement - Athearn did a reasonable job of them I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbonnetuk Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Thanks for the correction Martyn. Dan The 9xx-11xx H1 machines also have the older window arrangement - Athearn did a reasonable job of them I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthia27 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 No, they seem to have copied the same early prototypes as the existing RTR models, usefully (not!) if you're trying to model one of the 1500-ish (from memory) BNSF ones that look different! Wonder if it's just that there's published drawings of them... Hi Martyn, Your point about drawings is a good point, I find it amazing that the RTR Manufacturers have neglected to address the lack of such a common prototype. Rant Mode On/ For me it draws parallels with the current situation viz. a viz. the 4mm RTR Class 25s that are sold to the UK market, a prototype where the model looks so wrong it visually hurts, a prototype where a large fleet was operated in many parts of the country (though nothing like the 1500+ C44-9Ws operated by BNSF), and where the manufacturers know it is wrong, those people who know about the prototype know it is wrong, but there is no commercial pressure or drive by the manufacturers to do something about it. In these days of laser scanning where a 3D electronic rendition of a prototype can be recreated to the nearest fraction of an inch there is absolutely no excuse. Rant Mode Off/ Anyway like the Class 25, if you have the will a really good Phase 2 C44-9W can be built in HO, I'm going to detail a couple of Athearn C44-9Ws and AC4400's at some point after I have done some in depth research. It's something I may even attempt while I'm recovering next week though I think I may need to get hold of some back issues of the relevant magazines to make sure I have captured all the significant areas which need to be addressed. Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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