leachsprite4 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Dapol website launches page updated with June delivery of br livery maunsell coaches. What is the make up of coach set 469? Plus final cad cam of both four compartment break diagram 2101 and six compartment composite diagram 2401. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted March 24, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2015 Good to see that the additional brake variants are making progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Dapol website launches page updated with June delivery of br livery maunsell coaches. What is the make up of coach set 469? Plus final cad cam of both four compartment break diagram 2101 and six compartment composite diagram 2401. In BR days, 469 was formed BSK-SK-SK-FK-SK-BSK, using 4048/2351/2350/7665/2349/2789. 2789 was a D.2113 high-window 1935 stock BSK, installed in 1945 as a replacement for 4049, which was damaged beyond repair in September 1944. I have sent Dapol two eMails regarding the non-prototypical appearance of 4049 in BR days, but obviously they have ignored them... Edited March 24, 2015 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Dapol have listened to advice in the past, they changed one of the Granges they were going to make when I pointed out it ran with a 3500 gallon Collett tender which is not one of the ones they make. What sometimes happen is they do not update their announcements to reflect the fact. A lot of shops were still advertising Maunsell coach set 450 right up until the coaches came out. I find they are more inclined to listen if you present a viable alternative together with evidence to back it up. Of course they may have painted themselves into a corner a bit with this one due to the fact that there is only so much they can do with the 6-comp brake 3rd. On the plus side, it is good to see that the Brake compo and 4-comp brake 3rd are coming this year. Now the WoE mainline looks a lot more viable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2015 Once these coaches come out we just need to speak with one of the smaller decal manufacturers to get coach numbers made up along with set numbers then there will be even more choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leachsprite4 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Thanks for the update on the set 469 in terms of length and formation it's probably too long for me so I will be buying lose coaches as I only want four or five coach set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Plus final cad cam of both four compartment break diagram 2101 and six compartment composite diagram 2401. Would these be suitable for making up a 2-coach local set (I think they were sometimes called P-sets). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Would these be suitable for making up a 2-coach local set (I think they were sometimes called P-sets). The 2-coach local sets 'R' (later 'P') (22-29) were high-window stock, except for the BCKs in 23/28/29 which were low-window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The 2-coach local sets 'R' (later 'P') (22-29) were high-window stock, except for the BCKs in 23/28/29 which were low-window. Am I right in assuming that the high windows are on the corridor side only? So if I have an end-to-end layout rather than a continuous run I could cheat? Run a brake second with the compartment side on view and a brake compo and IO could depict sets 23, 28 & 29? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) D*mn - sussed me out already! Yes, the term 'high-window' applies to the windows which extend up to roof gutter level on the corridor side of the vehicles. There are certain detail differences between low- and high-window stock which we needn't bother with in N scale as they won't be noticed by the casual viewer... Edited March 29, 2015 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelboy45 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I suggested to Dapol today at Ally Pally that they market the Maunsells in prototypical numbered 3-sets and the forthcoming 'high window' brakes in 2-sets as well as offering singles. My suggestion seemed to be well received, so fingers crossed and we will be able to run prototypical formations. I didnot suggest set numbers but explained that there was lots of info out there. I should think it makes good marketing sense too. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Sounds like a good idea to me, a boxed 3 coach set is the obvious way to sell them with others sold individually. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) I suggested to Dapol today at Ally Pally that they market the Maunsells in prototypical numbered 3-sets and the forthcoming 'high window' brakes in 2-sets as well as offering singles. My suggestion seemed to be well received, so fingers crossed and we will be able to run prototypical formations. I didnot suggest set numbers but explained that there was lots of info out there. I should think it makes good marketing sense too. Gerry The 'forthcoming brakes' aren't high-window coaches, just the low-window 4-compartment 3rd Brake (BTK) and 6-compartment Composite Brake (BCK) to match the existing coaches. The BTKs will enable 3-car 'P' sets to be made utilising the existing CK coaches, and the BCKs were loose vehicles used on the 'ACE' in its Maunsell guise and branch line services. Edited March 29, 2015 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted April 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2015 These look very nice indeed, well done Dapol. Hopefully there will be a lot more models along of this standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2009 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Dapol have an ad in the new, August issue of Model Rail announcing the BR green versions will be released in July. 2 running numbers each of 1st Class, Brake 3rd, 3rd, Composite and Brake Van. And just as the bank account is taking one hell of a drubbing from Farish with the Merchat Navy and imminent N Class. Good times down south. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Dapol have an ad in the new, August issue of Model Rail announcing the BR green versions will be released in July. 2 running numbers each of 1st Class, Brake 3rd, 3rd, Composite and Brake Van. Looks like they've taken at least one of the points I've made into account - the number of the coach with model number 2P-012-352 is now given as 4051, not 4049. The other error has not been corrected, though. 2P-012-302 has incorrectly been given the number of an 'Ironclad' first... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted August 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2015 Osborn's say they will have the BR versions in stock from Monday. Has anyone seen a photo yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2015 Pics up on Hatton's site--they look very nice. A must for that N class I think! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancess Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Received my BR SR Brakes this morning, label on box for 2P-012-352 still says 4049 and that is number on the coach! Also it has what appear to be blue 1st class stickers, both sides, on the 2 windows closest to the guards compartment. Edited August 29, 2015 by Dancess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Hmm, practising for the forthcoming brake compo perhaps? It is a shame that Dapol produce fundamentally good models but then frequently fall down at the deco stage with silly mistakes (GWR route colour discs seem to be essentially random on their panniers). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I also remember a batch of NQP Gresleys at a Dapol Club day that were NQP only because the factory had put First Class and No Smoking signs on the wrong windows.... Likewise A3s with the RA number in the wrong corner because the left cabside had been carefully printed - with the right cabside tampo and vice-versa... Deco mistakes are just as likely to originate in China as Chirk. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 A question for those lucky enough to have their Br Maunsell's already, how does the Br green compare to the green on the Grafar Bulleids? Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 A question for those lucky enough to have their Br Maunsell's already, how does the Br green compare to the green on the Grafar Bulleids? Best wishes Simon Lighter and a little duller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The two together 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2015 I suppose thats not too bad as the Maunsells are older! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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