The Bigbee Line Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks. I thought I hadn't seen any in pictures. I'll need to keep my eye open for an 'original'. I understand the tenders on the Hornby models can be a bit of a mish-mash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted August 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2014 Motive power used on the NCR over the BR years included: Maunsell N Class (best look for the Bachmann ones with straight sided tenders) Drummond T9 (Hornby with 8 wheel tender most suitable) Bulleid original pacific (Hornby) BR std class 4mt tanks (Bachmann) replaced the T9s Beattie Well Tank (Kernow - on Wadebridge to Wenford duties) The above 5 were most common and are signature classes but the following also ran: Maunsell U and U1 Maunsell 700 (rare) Fairburn tank (short period in 1951) Ivatt tank, Drummond O2, GWR 45xx, 8750, 1366 on Bodmin duties through the years Closing years saw: BR Std Class 3mt tank (Bachmann) BR Std Class 4 75xxx (Bachmann) Class 22 63xx (Dapol) Classic 121 and 122 single car units AC Railbus on Bodmin North to Dunsmere runs Can add more details when I'm in the house... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted August 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks. I thought I hadn't seen any in pictures. I'll need to keep my eye open for an 'original'. I understand the tenders on the Hornby models can be a bit of a mish-mash Best look for one with a narrow 4500gal tender with no tender raves. That can cover lots of renaming options, although a suitable name can be found for all the cab / tender options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 Motive power used on the NCR over the BR years included: Maunsell N Class (best look for the Bachmann ones with straight sided tenders) Drummond T9 (Hornby with 8 wheel tender most suitable) Bulleid original pacific (Hornby) BR std class 4mt tanks (Bachmann) replaced the T9s Beattie Well Tank (Kernow - on Wadebridge to Wenford duties) The above 5 were most common and are signature classes but the following also ran: Maunsell U and U1 Maunsell 700 (rare) Fairburn tank (short period in 1951) Ivatt tank, Drummond O2, GWR 45xx, 8750, 1366 on Bodmin duties through the years Closing years saw: BR Std Class 3mt tank (Bachmann) BR Std Class 4 75xxx (Bachmann) Class 22 63xx (Dapol) Classic 121 and 122 single car units AC Railbus on Bodmin North to Dunsmere runs Can add more details when I'm in the house... Thanks for that. I have a T9 with 6 wheeled tender. Currently looking out for a standard 4 tank and an original light pacific. I really need to finish the last boards and get the track in its final position. Some cork sheet is to hand for underlay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted August 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks for that. I have a T9 with 6 wheeled tender. Currently looking out for a standard 4 tank and an original light pacific. I really need to finish the last boards and get the track in its final position. Some cork sheet is to hand for underlay. It's not easy to tell from the photos but your T9 looks like 30726, which is one of the ones with a narrow cab. If you are inclined and want to run a prototypical loco then renumbering it as 30729 will do the job. This was the only one in BR period to have a narrow cab and 6 wheel tender. For the record the other regular NCR T9s were: 30313 - wide cab with 6 wheel tender 30338 - wide cab with 8 wheel watercart tender 30709, 30715, 30717, 30718 and 30719 - narrow cab and 8 wheel watercart tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 After all these years, I never realised that there was a difference in the cab widths on T9s!. Any info please? Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 After all these years, I never realised that there was a difference in the cab widths on T9s!. Any info please? Brian. From Ian D Nolans excellent Flickr collection: https://www.flickr.com/photos/31890193@N08/10576742286/sizes/l/in/set-72157637009896145/ 30313 wide cab 30709 narrow cab Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted August 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2014 Easy to spot the difference Brian - look at the splashers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted August 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2014 Oh, have a look at your 6 wheel tender - some had the side frames stuck on the wrong way round. If so the guard irons will be next to the cab. The dodgy Chinese glue makes the fix easy. Loosen off the side frames and swap them around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Oh, have a look at your 6 wheel tender - some had the side frames stuck on the wrong way round. If so the guard irons will be next to the cab. The dodgy Chinese glue makes the fix easy. Loosen off the side frames and swap them around.I spotted the guards irons lurking at the front quite early on. It was an easy fix thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Hi, i Have been following your tread with interest, interested in how your get on with the baseboards, would you be kind enough to supply a complete track plan with fiddle yard? Many Thanks Gary J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Ernie, don't forget Rule 1, its your Layout, you can run what you want, especially when the doors are closed. Bodge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Many thanks for the pictures of the T9s. Don't suppose you have any of the top view of a four wheel tender, preferably empty? Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Ernie, don't forget Rule 1, its your Layout, you can run what you want, especially when the doors are closed. Bodge. In one if my boxes is a Baldwin Centipede, a 4-8-8-4 diesel. I'm sure these didn't run in Cornwall either. But I might :-))) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Hi, i Have been following your tread with interest, interested in how your get on with the baseboards, would you be kind enough to supply a complete track plan with fiddle yard? Many Thanks Gary J Gary, Will do. I'm working on how to make the fiddle yard. As soon as I do and it's laid I will draw out a plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 I've been experimenting with flexing a Peco curved point. By cutting the webs between sleepers I've bent it by another 10 mm to approximate a 42" curve. In this shot it is positioned to be the entrance to a private siding. Here shown with an unmodified curved point. The coach is a Maunsell Brake Third, to pair with a Brake Compo as a two set. A North Cornwall staple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Bodge, The stack is a tad over 24" high with the other dimensions of 36" x 13". Actually quite compact. Thanks, Ernie Ernie, This circular layout looks quite compact. What is the diameter of the completed circle and what is the radius of the mainline? I'm very interested in the concept Paul 4475 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 Ernie, This circular layout looks quite compact. What is the diameter of the completed circle and what is the radius of the mainline? I'm very interested in the concept Paul 4475 Paul, The radius of the inner edge is 3ft, with a board width of 250mm. I'm using a nominal 42" radius for the mainline. On the 'station' boards I have not tweeked the Peco points so there is an absolute minimum of 30" radius (Though nothing is anywhere like as tight as that) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Back home after a busy few weeks. A trip to Northumberland saw a few stone bridges and structures. Now home and keen to get on with the layout. For these boards I have settled on a 42" general curve for the main line. The Peco curved point coming from the main has been tweeked to tighten up the curve. The other one forming the trap is as purchased. A trip to Homebase secured some packets of cork tiles. These have been roughly trimmed to form the ballast shoulder. The track is secured with some large pins for lining up purposes only.. These will come out when the track is glued down. On the agenda is to choose an industry for this siding. Any suggestions please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not much in the way of industry on the real NCR but a few thoughts would be: A quarry siding - from memory there was "Tom and Betty's" siding just a short distance from St Kew Highway. A siding to a slaughter house - there was one at Halwill. The biggest industry was the slate works a Delabole but that was much more than a siding! Note that NCR stations generally had a assortment of provender stores in the station goods yard and almost without exception no coal depot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not much in the way of industry on the real NCR but a few thoughts would be: A quarry siding - from memory there was "Tom and Betty's" siding just a short distance from St Kew Highway. A siding to a slaughter house - there was one at Halwill. The biggest industry was the slate works a Delabole but that was much more than a siding! Note that NCR stations generally had a assortment of provender stores in the station goods yard and almost without exception no coal depot. Wot no coal!!! What do I use my minfits for? I've seen some in pictures but suspect they may be for loco related use. Any links to coal workings would be appreciated. I am thinking of a working gate to the private siding, the actual track disappearing 'off scene', thus allowing wagons to be swapped. I'm actually basing my service pattern on the information on the Bude thread. I have bolstered my Hornby Maunsells to give me three 2 sets and enough other coaches for a service from London. I've been successful in gaining an un-rebuilt West Country and want to see how it looks on the curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yes there were coal deliveries but the merchant unloaded the coal into his bags / cart on site and took the coal away. The merchant was charged if he didn't empty the wagon and take the coal away after a certain time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yes there were coal deliveries but the merchant unloaded the coal into his bags / cart on site and took the coal away. The merchant was charged if he didn't empty the wagon and take the coal away after a certain time. Thanks for that. This modus operandi suits me, just have to shunt out the coal wagons and pick them up later. The freight operation will be a bit stylised anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2014 Thanks for that. This modus operandi suits me, just have to shunt out the coal wagons and pick them up later. The freight operation will be a bit stylised anyway. Even the P4 boys fell for the "assume every station has coal surges" trap... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sorry its not your scale but some of your pictures enabled my Meccano version. In case some don't know of Meccano ask your fathers! Brian. PS The front bogie wheels are now spaced a bit further apart than in the photo ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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