Great Western Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Hi mate, it's Dave, Mr Jones is too stuffy and formal ;-) Unfortunately weathering hasn't been spoken about really as we've been concentrating on developing the model. I'm sure Kernow will specify this in time, however the master will still be a Mercig work of art. Cheers Dave edited the original post to reflect the above. Can't wait, just need to break the news to the Mrs now! Any chance of a 7mm one to follow, oh my goodess that would be awesome ! Great Western. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Hi Guys, just to stop the speculation, the photo shows 1364 in post war time livery of green with only GWR on the tanks. I have seen photos of these cute locos with the full Great Western and the Shirt Button on the tanks. Brilliant choice of prototype by Kernow. I had one in 4mm and 7mm scale along with the Pannier version. Apart from the 4mm saddle tank and 7mm Pannier tank the remaining locos were scratched built. Also they appeared in black with the scrawny cat on a bicycle wheel under BR and then one or two got painted in green with the BR toten. A very useful and long lived prototype. Loconuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted November 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2014 Not sure how I missed this thread before, but I think I'm going to have to order one of these too. It will have to be a Shirt Button one if none actually carried Great Western. I like the previous idea someone had of just plain green too, so if they somehow became available I'd have one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHertsGER Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Nice, but the logo on the tank is spelt wrongly. There seems to be a W where there should be an E. Dammit that is the best explanation of how one crept up towards Hertford. Made a jolly useful shunter at Ware... So that is why I have to buy one too...! Edited November 9, 2014 by EHertsGER 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clogger Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Having done some research(talking to a person at Didcot), I found out that one was shredded at St. Blazey. That'll do for me,ordered one this afternoon. Now I just have to finish the layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHertsGER Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 And this....? http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/page/80/wr_suburban_dmu Best, Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJM Dave Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 Hi everyone, some of the latest cad/cams from this project attached. enjoy. cheers Dave 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Hi Dave, She looks great! I wish we could get the real thing up and running this fast... All the best, Castle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRs1962 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Were there any detail differences between 1361 late crest as being sold and 1363 or 1365 when withdrawn? Thinking of renumbering the 1361 to 1363 or 1365 to have a pristine model which survived into 1962. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2014 Were there any detail differences between 1361 late crest as being sold and 1363 or 1365 when withdrawn? Thinking of renumbering the 1361 to 1363 or 1365 to have a pristine model which survived into 1962. The detail differences between various members of the class are established and the individual models will reflect any relevant differences. Please PM me if you want further details in that respect as having put a lot of time into researching the class I'm not going to chuck the stuff into the public arena where others might be looking and getting a free ride. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRs1962 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Fully understand. PM sent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 How about one in as built condition? There will be three pre WW1 versions of the Railmotor! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJS Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hi - just found this thread so apologies for the late arrival (snow on the line). I am looking at getting one of the 1361 models but as I model pre-1923 there is the question of livery. I have been through the discussion and if I understand it correctly no-one has a photographic evidence of how 1361 may have been painted when she was built. Am I safe in presuming it would be no lettering and lining? Sorry if this overlaps posts or I have missed something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Hi - just found this thread so apologies for the late arrival (snow on the line). I am looking at getting one of the 1361 models but as I model pre-1923 there is the question of livery. I have been through the discussion and if I understand it correctly no-one has a photographic evidence of how 1361 may have been painted when she was built. Am I safe in presuming it would be no lettering and lining? Sorry if this overlaps posts or I have missed something. Early photos of the class (apart from the works grey example) seem fairly difficult to come by - in fact interwar ones aren't necessarily easy to find either - but I think it reasonable to conclude that they weren't lined and like many GWR small tank engines at that time they probably carried no indication of ownership. However I know a man who might have a bit more conclusive information than that so will ask when I next see him (in a couple of moths time). Edited May 22, 2015 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJS Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 thanks for the help - yes this is my feeling and as you say photos seem impossible to come by. I am hoping that I can "through some kind of magic" remove the shirtbutton logo from one of the models...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Hi All, There is apparently a really early image of No. 1363 in the Great Western Trust photo collection at Didcot. I will see if this is true and report back... All the best, Castle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hi Dave Are you going to use the same chassis for the Kenow 1361 as for the Hattons 1366, if so they are different, GA drawings both locos are available from the NRM for a small charge. As far asI can see you do have some details wrong on these 3D CAD drawings. Loconuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Hi Dave Are you going to use the same chassis for the Kenow 1361 as for the Hattons 1366, if so they are different, GA drawings both locos are available from the NRM for a small charge. As far asI can see you do have some details wrong on these 3D CAD drawings. Loconuts Well I can't see them - and strangely enough the original drawing was used, complete to Harry Holcroft's signature - so perhaps now (er a mere 6months after the CADs were posted!!) you could elucidate us all regarding the 'errors' as some people with intimate knowledge of the class don't appear to have come up with them? Or are you on another 'let's bash Kernow/DJM trip having also spread despondency in the thread about the Kernow O2 Edited May 25, 2015 by The Stationmaster 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hi Dave Are you going to use the same chassis for the Kenow 1361 as for the Hattons 1366, if so they are different, GA drawings both locos are available from the NRM for a small charge. As far asI can see you do have some details wrong on these 3D CAD drawings. Loconuts I thought it was Heljan doing the 1366 class not Hattons.Have I missed this ? Looking forward to this model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJS Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hi All, There is apparently a really early image of No. 1363 in the Great Western Trust photo collection at Didcot. I will see if this is true and report back... All the best, Castle I think we would all like to see this - I guess it would be too much if it was in colour....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hi Mark, Definitely not colour... I'm still working on it by the way! All the best, Castle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJS Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Hi Mark, Definitely not colour... I'm still working on it by the way! All the best, Castle I thought perhaps you could "colourize it"..... ;-) Your effort is appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Well I can't see them - and strangely enough the original drawing was used, complete to Harry Holcroft's signature - so perhaps now (er a mere 6months after the CADs were posted!!) you could elucidate us all regarding the 'errors' as some people with intimate knowledge of the class don't appear to have come up with them? Or are you on another 'let's bash Kernow/DJM trip having also spread despondency in the thread about the Kernow O2 Should have gone to Specsavers, joking aside I have only just been directed to this site by a friend who wanted my opinion. Happy to supply you with a list of incorrect/missing details, but before I give up my valuable modeling time to produce a list I must ask one question, are you going to take any notice? Actually you do not need a list as these items are seen on the photograph of 1363 at the start of this topic and is where I got my information from. My GWR books and drawings are now with my son some 80 miles away near Didcot. As for my comments on the Kernow O2, I did the maths having spent most of my life in Manufacturing Engineering and know most of the problems one is going to meet using subcontractors in China, we also got them with the subcontractors in this country and when working to a dead line th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Should have gone to Specsavers, joking aside I have only just been directed to this site by a friend who wanted my opinion. Happy to supply you with a list of incorrect/missing details, but before I give up my valuable modeling time to produce a list I must ask one question, are you going to take any notice? Actually you do not need a list as these items are seen on the photograph of 1363 at the start of this topic and is where I got my information from. My GWR books and drawings are now with my son some 80 miles away near Didcot. As for my comments on the Kernow O2, I did the maths having spent most of my life in Manufacturing Engineering and know most of the problems one is going to meet using subcontractors in China, we also got them with the subcontractors in this country and when working to a dead line th Whoops' computer glitch. Sorry guys. I was going to say that when working to a dead line this delays always come up and bite you on the b*m. I am sure DJ will say the same thing. Not knocking Kernow or DJM. Loconuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Not knocking Kernow or DJM. Loconuts Are you sure about that? Your whole modus operandi seems to be knock other peoples work ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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