Great Western Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Order placed for one each of the British Railways models Great Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I recall seeing, somewhere in one of my railway videos - probably an Ivo Peters one, a sequence showing Bath Shedmaster Harold Morris visiting, I think, a Bristol shed and being offered a 1361 class (in pristine condition) that was surplus to requirements for transfer to Bath; (sadly he declined the offer). Can anyone confirm which of the class it was, please? Yes, you're right - I'm looking for a 'what if' !! Regards, John Isherwood. Found it !! It's in the Ivo Peter's Collection of videos - Volume 8 : 1962. The loco in question is 1365, in BR black with no BR insignia - just smokebox and cabside (black background) numberplates. So, I suspect that DJM / Kernow's model K2205 should not have the BR later insignia as listed. As K2201 is to be supplied with the BR later insignia and K2202 is to have the BR early insignia, it would be nice if K2205 could be produced without insignia and in moderately weathered condition - in fact as depicted in the 1962 video when it was offered to Harold Morris for transfer to the S&DJR. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Found it !! It's in the Ivo Peter's Collection of videos - Volume 8 : 1962. The loco in question is 1365, in BR black with no BR insignia - just smokebox and cabside (black background) numberplates. So, I suspect that DJM / Kernow's model K2205 should not have the BR later insignia as listed. As K2201 is to be supplied with the BR later insignia and K2202 is to have the BR early insignia, it would be nice if K2205 could be produced without insignia and in moderately weathered condition - in fact as depicted in the 1962 video when it was offered to Harold Morris for transfer to the S&DJR. Regards, John Isherwood. They must have cleaned it specially - see earlier post! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) They must have cleaned it specially - see earlier post! It certainly isn't pristine - but looks cleaner than in the 1961 image posted earlier. It was, or just had been raining in the Ivo Peters sequence, so that adds a certain gloss! Regards, John Isherwood. Edited August 20, 2014 by cctransuk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Just in case Chris doesn't get this 'train' of thought etc (sorry) I'll mail him. Thanks guys Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2014 It is quite difficult to find a pic of 1365 in anything but an absolutely filthy state - every view I have found of it, plus the one posted by 'Killybegs', show it as 'heavily weathered', even in GWR days! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Will they be easy to convert to P4? I can't resist a lovely little tank like this even if now got to Caerphilly works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I've just returned from holiday and caught up on this news item - terrific! Thanks to Kernow, Didcot and DJM. I also notice that several members appear to be looking for an "excuse" to run one on their layouts. Well I've never felt the need to be totally constrained by this doctrine, having a slightly more relaxed view of what I run on my railway. However, now that the 1361, 1366 and Southern USA tanks have been announced I envisage a quayside micro layout in the offing! What a shame Andy Y has already sold Quayhaven. Linners 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Hi All, This project is now mentioned on the DRC website too! http://www.didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/guide/map.html All the best, Castle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 . Any indication of what "weathering" will be applied to K2205 ( Class 1361 Class number 1365 in BR Black livery with late crest and weathered finish) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Taz Posted August 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 26, 2014 I see in MR200 that Heljan are planning to use the chassis from their 1366 pannier and introduce their own version of the 1361. Wait for years for one of these and then suddenly 2 turn up at once..... There is currently no planned release date and reading between the lines I doubt much if any work has been started on this. I for one have higher confidence in Kernow / DJM and so will stick with my current order. I think if Heljan have any sense they will quietly drop the idea, but it might provide some impetus to Kernow to move things along a little quicker to ensure they are first to market? . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I see in MR200 that Heljan are planning to use the chassis from their 1366 pannier and introduce their own version of the 1361. Wait for years for one of these and then suddenly 2 turn up at once..... There is currently no planned release date and reading between the lines I doubt much if any work has been started on this. I for one have higher confidence in Kernow / DJM and so will stick with my current order. I think if Heljan have any sense they will quietly drop the idea, but it might provide some impetus to Kernow to move things along a little quicker to ensure they are first to market? . Well Chris's 1361 is coming along very nicely, and don't forget it has all the help it needs from the guys at Didcot too :-)) 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I see in MR200 that Heljan are planning to use the chassis from their 1366 pannier and introduce their own version of the 1361. ... it might provide some impetus to Kernow to move things along a little quicker to ensure they are first to market? . In view of the Danes new found interest in steam traction, it might provide some impetus to Heljan to ensure they are first to market... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 26, 2014 In view of the Danes new found interest in steam traction, it might provide some impetus to Heljan to ensure they are first to market... I think they might need to do a fair bit of research first if they are going to produce what they have said they're going to produce. There's only one loco in existence and that is in the hands of the GWS who have been involved with the Kernow project in various ways for some months. I obviously admit to having an 'interest' having been involved in prototype research on the project and making the initial contact with the GWS. Also in order to sort the detail differences of various class members there's a lot more to it than simply looking on the 'net for pictures as the debate about liveries in this thread has shown. In the meanwhile no doubt Heljan have been concentrating their efforts on getting the detail differences sorted on the 1366 panniers - plenty of them over the years and it gets even more interesting when trying to date some of them (no need to ask me how I know that ). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Hi Dave Any chance of considering a 7mm version of the 1361 at some stage? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) In view of the Danes new found interest in steam traction, it might provide some impetus to Heljan to ensure they are first to market... Just like to point out that Heljan have produced high quality steam locos in H0 scale for many years, take a look at their website www.Heljan.dk Edited August 30, 2014 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Just like to point out that Heljan have produced high quality steam locos in H0 scale for many years, take a look at their website www.Heljan.dk Hi Steve, Doesn't that post belong on the Heljan section? Lol Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted September 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2014 Heljan posted on Facebook today that they would be following up the 1366 with a 1361 and the CAD is well underway. I can't believe how crowded the UK 4mm market has become in some areas - do one in N Gauge instead! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm Just glad that Kernow and I have the most knowledgable people on this subject on board, and the help from the GWS is proving invaluable. Should be an interesting race methinks. :-) Not forgetting though, that the model of the preserved version gets a donation for each one sold too. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted September 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2014 You just can't trust the Danes. First the Vikings and now the 1361. It's all rather embarassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Would you be able advise the level of weathering on the models please Dave? Regards Great Western Edited September 2, 2014 by Great Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Hi mate, it's Dave, Mr Jones is too stuffy and formal ;-) Unfortunately weathering hasn't been spoken about really as we've been concentrating on developing the model. I'm sure Kernow will specify this in time, however the master will still be a Mercig work of art. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2014 You just can't trust the Danes. First the Vikings and now the 1361. It's all rather embarassing. And we only narrowly avoided her becoming queen of the world, well EU council leader. I have also just noticed that it is HER hand pulling David C closer. That makes her unique amongst politicians in wanting to to close to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) I thought she was trying to poke his eye out... Edited September 2, 2014 by Stubby47 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 No she's trying to pull his skin off and see if he's a member of David Ickes 'Lizard Elite'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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