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[jwealleans]

I didn't, Mick, but only because I didn't have any at the time.  I do now have some which came to me in a job lot of bits, but I haven't used any yet.  From memory they're all 10' wheelbase and isn't the conflat 9'?

[Bucoops]

Looks a very neat solution

 

[jwealleans]

Bit of weathering while I felt like it this evening as well.  Since Thurston last went out I've built about half a dozen carriages which we can use on Wickham Market and they need weathering to match the rest.  These were across the bench in the early part of 2017, I think.

 

 

D 244 Lav Compo.  These are Bill Bedford sides on MJT everything else.

 

 

Comet D 62 Brake Third.

 

Some NPCCS as well:

 

 

ex-NER D 171 Milk van.  We have a photo of one of these up the Framlingham Branch, so this will be used on that part of the layout.  Hence the S & W couplings.

 

 

D & S D 87 Milk Van.  Bit of a rescue job this one, hence the less than perfect grilles.  I have a D 86 almost ready as well.  You really can't run a GE Area layout without at least one of these kicking about.

[micklner]

2 hours ago, jwealleans said:

I didn't, Mick, but only because I didn't have any at the time.  I do now have some which came to me in a job lot of bits, but I haven't used any yet.  From memory they're all 10' wheelbase and isn't the conflat 9'?

Yes Conflat is a 9ft wb, Comet do list a 9ft version. What axle boxes castings  and from where please ? thanks.

[jwealleans]

MJT LNER.

[gazman424]

On 03/02/2019 at 20:32, jwealleans said:

Bit of weathering while I felt like it this evening as well.  Since Thurston last went out I've built about half a dozen carriages which we can use on Wickham Market and they need weathering to match the rest.  These were across the bench in the early part of 2017, I think.

 

 

D 244 Lav Compo.  These are Bill Bedford sides on MJT everything else.

 

 

Comet D 62 Brake Third.

 

Some NPCCS as well:

 

 

ex-NER D 171 Milk van.  We have a photo of one of these up the Framlingham Branch, so this will be used on that part of the layout.  Hence the S & W couplings.

 

 

D & S D 87 Milk Van.  Bit of a rescue job this one, hence the less than perfect grilles.  I have a D 86 almost ready as well.  You really can't run a GE Area layout without at least one of these kicking about.

 

Hi Jonathon/All,

 Love the rolling stock pics, but i'm slightly confused about your excellent rendition of the Dia.62. Going by the diagrams in Michael Harris's "LNER Standard Gresley Carriages", the drawing differs in that the coach is portrayed with 5 compartments and the brake section reversed i.e. the Guard's door in the centre.  In the "LNER Carriages" reprint, also by Harris, a picture on page 52 appears to back up the diagram, and also shows that the brake section doesn't carry the usual end windows.

 However, in "LNER Standard Gresley Carriages", a picture on page 105 shows a 5 compartment Brake Third, but with the Brake section in the conventional manner. The number also seems to match the Diagram.

 

 

This is my scrathbuilt attempt before weathering, and to say im puzzled is an understatement!! Hopefully your superior knowledge can shed some light on this perplexing mystery!

 Keep up the good work!

Gaz.

[jwealleans]

Either a typo or my faulty memory.  It is a diagram 64.

[gazman424]

Thanks for the prompt reply. That clears that up but leaves me with my Dia.62 and it’s  tipsy turbo brake compartment conundrum! 

All the best! 

Gaz.

[jwealleans]

That's an odd one.  Harris (the brown one) comments that the guards door was at the passenger end, without saying why, but then illustrates what he says is a D 62 vehicle laid out in the conventional manner.  

 

They were all built for the Southern Scottish Area, so it may have been a local requirement.  It's also, I suppose, possible that some batches were built to a different layout but the diagram number not altered.  I'll ask about.

[gazman424]

Thanks Jonathon,

 “Tipsy turbo”? Sorry, I replied on my phone and autocorrect thought it would be hilarious to change it from “topsy turvy”!!

Gaz.

[jwealleans]

I meant to say, that scratchbuilt carriage is a thing of beauty.  i wish I could scratchbuild to that standard.

[gazman424]

Thanks Jonathon,

 Although, I do make the most of modern technology so the real hard work is done by CAD, my laser cutter and recently, my 3D printer.

 Essentially, I am producing my own kits. 

Gaz.

[cctransuk]

On 20/10/2009 at 19:47, jwealleans said:

 

 

 

I spent a long time messing about with different ways to make up the turnbuckle on the tank retaining straps, but in the end I've invoked the 3' rule. They'll be painted black anyway. If someone tells me about some nice etched ones from somewhere I'll change them. The only obvious place I could think of was David Geen and there weren't any in the tank wagon kit of his I built a couple of years ago.

 

 

If you want a real challenge, you could do what I did when upgrading Lima milk tankers - solder short lengths of 16BA (?) screws onto the end of the straps and tension them with matching nuts!

 

.... but only AFTER you've overdosed on tranquilisers - what little hair I had left was pretty much all torn out during that ill-advised exercise!!

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[jwealleans]

Blimey, John, you've been digging.  I did wonder about doing something like that at the time.  In the end a friend found some really nice moulded plastic turnbuckles which I still have in the envelope somewhere, having signally failed to get round to them.  What would probably spur me to actin would be finding the right transfer for the tanks - they should be dark blue with gold lettering for the 1930s period.

 

Gaz, you've started quite a debate about D 62 BTs.  Seems they were built for the SSA (the former NBR) and mirrored the arrangement on the older stock they replaced.  I have been sent several photographs showing that at least some were built as per the diagram and your model.  Harris, however, does illustrate at least one which has the conventional arrangement.

 

There was another diagram, D. 59, which was also laid out this way, but that was built on recycled GCR underframes and the layout was imposed by the position of the guard's brake wheel.

[cctransuk]

6 hours ago, jwealleans said:

Blimey, John, you've been digging.  I did wonder about doing something like that at the time.  In the end a friend found some really nice moulded plastic turnbuckles which I still have in the envelope somewhere, having signally failed to get round to them.  What would probably spur me to actin would be finding the right transfer for the tanks - they should be dark blue with gold lettering for the 1930s period.

 

Gaz, you've started quite a debate about D 62 BTs.  Seems they were built for the SSA (the former NBR) and mirrored the arrangement on the older stock they replaced.  I have been sent several photographs showing that at least some were built as per the diagram and your model.  Harris, however, does illustrate at least one which has the conventional arrangement.

 

There was another diagram, D. 59, which was also laid out this way, but that was built on recycled GCR underframes and the layout was imposed by the position of the guard's brake wheel.

 

Please PM me at cctrans@hotmail.com - I tried to PM you here but got a spurious message that my In-box was full!

 

Regards,

John.

[jwealleans]

More wagons rolling off the bench - I've had a rotten cold which I can't shake off and haven't done anywhere near as much as I'd have liked.  Still, you do what you can and the rest can wait.

 

 

Bachmann 3 planker now weathered and sheeted.

 

 

Pair of Oxford POs.  Not much done to these, really, just couplings and paint.  Loads are in preparation.

 

 

 

Parkside Trestle.  Not a wagon I'd have built, but it came to me assembled in a job lot so it's had some detailing and a repaint.  It's not turned out too badly.  Photographs of the prototype are not easy to come by, unless I just own all the wrong books.

 

 

ABS Twin Case.  I finished this one in late LNER livery per a photograph in Tatlow 4B.  Again, a vehicle I came by already assembled and it's just been refinished and detailed a little.

 

 

A couple on the way - a friend very generously gave me a Hornby brake van when I visited him, so that's been assaulted with the paint brush.  It's a nice model, actually.  The only real fault was the handrails at this side which had pulled towards the ducket at each end, as if the horizontal one was too short.  Easy enough to make a new one.  I'll have to acquire a guard for it.  The French mineral (1/112?) was also given to me; I built the basic kit as part of my demo at Hartlepool and then detailed it according to a photo in Larkin's Wagons of the Early BR Era, including the horizontal raised metalwork (which I assume indicates a repair), rope eyes and safety chain on the door handle.  It will also have screw couplings when complete.  

 

 

Lastly, from a job lot which came from 53A Models, a Perserverance GC Passenger Brake Van.  This had been glued together and started to fall apart, so it had to be remade.  It was a shame to lose the ery good paint job, but it had to be done.  I reprofiled the ends as recommended by Steve Banks and I've tried to capture the same colour, which I rather like.

Edited February 24, 2019 by jwealleans
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[jwealleans]

Just to show the F6 isn't being completely neglected, the chassis has been fettled and tested prior to the crankpin washers being soldered into place.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk_Gebm_-AE

[Jon4470]

I like the test rig

[jwealleans]

Bit of progress now our visitors have gone home.  F6 coming on - most of the details are there now, just boiler handrail, brake rigging, sandpipes and a few fine pipe runs and then I'll be cleaning up and trying to see what I've missed.  This is the more interesting side:

 

 

 

I still haven't worked my current fascination with Private Owner wagons out of my system.  The Oxford 'Rickett' wagon is one I find hard to resist, but you need some variations on a theme.

 

 

These are both Oxford - the one on the left renumbered, the one on the right repainted and lettered using Powsides transfers.  These were an especially tricky set to apply as the shading was on a separate sheet to the letters.  I spent a couple of afternoons over the Christmas holidays doing them.  There are also no spare number or different tare weights on the sheet, so it was a bit of a disappointment.  Luckily I'd kept the leftovers from the Stephenson Clarke batch I did last year.

 

 

Here the one on the left is Oxford with a London plank added, the one on the right is an Ian Kirk kit.  

 

Finally the D. 1/112 mineral i put up a couple of weeks ago, now finished, weathered and loaded.  This is still a fairly new wagon at the time the layout is set, so it's dirty but not too scruffy.

 

[The Fatadder]

Love the milk tank, how did you set about removing the moulded break leaver?

you now have me thinking about improving my GW ones...

[jwealleans]

Ten years on, I have no recollection of removing the brake levers, but I imagine side cutters, scalpels and unnecessary violence all played a part.

[Worsdell forever]

I'm surprised you got those Ricketts transfers on straight, they're normally bowed... 

[jwealleans]

Aye, they 'd lots of things in them days we 'aven't got today......

[St Enodoc]

On 10/03/2019 at 05:14, Worsdell forever said:

I'm surprised you got those Ricketts transfers on straight, they're normally bowed... 

Couldn't stop a pig in a ginnel, as we used to say...

[jwealleans]

F6 on the rolling road.