RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted April 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2019 Thanks Tim, I enjoyed making them and learnt a lot. I have a few other items of stock I'd like to build, quite high on the list is a plywood version of the GWR box van and the LMS design, but BR built, cattle wagon. I think Geoff Kent built the cattle wagon in his second book. Regards, Nick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Brinkly said: LMS design, but BR built, cattle wagon. I think Geoff Kent built the cattle wagon in his second book. Yes, that's right, there's a section on cattle wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) So what's with the new avatar then, Nick? 'No more Mr Nice Guy?' Edited April 21, 2019 by Captain Kernow Horrocksford. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted April 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Captain Kernow said: So what's with the new avatar then, Nick? 'No more Mr Nice Guy?' I thought it was time for a change! Been reading far too much of the late Mr Fleming's work! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 12, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 Hi everyone, Over the past two weekends, I've painted most of the stock I built over the Easter holiday. Maurice Hopper very kindly let me use his pair of Iwata airbrushes - 1 single and 1 dual action - which has convinced me that airbrushing is the best way of painting a wagon: the finish is beyond anything I can paint with a brush and I am reasonably competent with a brush! The session also provided some interesting thoughts on which primer I will use in the future. Something I found, is the finish is far finer using the Games Workshop primers than using Halfords rattle cans. Don't get me wrong, Halfords primers are alright, but the finish seems much nicer on the wagons sprayed with Mechanicus Standard Grey. From now on, I only plan to prime my models using Games Workshop products. They are about the same price; however, the finish is far superior. I also learnt that Precision paints are a joy to work with, such lovely enamel paint: thoroughly recommended! This photo was taken last weekend over at Hopper Towers. I'll upload a nearing completion photo later. yesterday afternoon and earlier this morning, I painted the chassis and roofs. I'll complete the lettering over the coming weeks. Thanks for reading. Nick 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Brinkly said: Maurice Hopper very kindly let me use his pair of Iwata airbrushes - 1 single and 1 dual action - which has convinced me that airbrushing is the best way of painting a wagon: the finish is beyond anything I can paint with a brush and I am reasonably competent with a brush! Out of interest, Nick, which of those two brushes did you prefer? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 12, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Regularity said: Out of interest, Nick, which of those two brushes did you prefer? Hi Simon, Both of them were good in different ways. The single action Iwata, which was very similar to this model, was very good for block colour. Once the flow was correct, which was very easy to adjust, it gave a very good, flat layer. I'm seriously thinking of getting one myself. The duel action was also easy to use, but I feel I only scratched the service with it. Again, block colour application was good, but I think it would be ideal for weathering. Regards, Nick. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Brinkly said: Both of them were good in different ways. The single action Iwata, which was very similar to this model, was very good for block colour. Stubby little fellow, isn't he? Interesting to hear your comments. I'm almost tempted to suggest that any Iwata airbrush is going to be a good bet. 10 minutes ago, Brinkly said: The duel action was also easy to use, but I feel I only scratched the service with it. I think it would be ideal for weathering. You are entirely correct, a good dual-action airbrush will allow you to vary the amount of paint you deliver to the model with much precision. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, Brinkly said: duel action You had a fight with the airbrushes? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 12, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, Regularity said: You had a fight with the airbrushes? Almost! Apologies, I'm on my iPad, which has a mind of its own! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 12, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 One set of painted vans. The roofs have been painted using two shades from the Precision range: P131 BR Roof Grey & 81 Dirty Black. The chassis were painted using Revell 302 black. Hopefully I'll start to letter the wagons over the coming weeks, with a view to getting them finished by half term. I want to get the CCTs & PMVs finished next. Regards, Nick. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 Will we see them all road-tested tomorrow evening? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 12, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain Kernow said: Will we see them all road-tested tomorrow evening? Possibly, I do have a proper stock box all ready for them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 The muse appears to be with you... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 13, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 hours ago, iak said: The muse appears to be with you... Yes, the Gods (Sun, Productively and Motivation!) are certainly aiding work with the fine weather we had over the weekend! Regards, Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Nick, it's so good to see that you have been displaying your talents, and in public too. I ought to be able to emulate your progress, particularly where the SR parcels vans are concerned, for do I not have a tottering pile of oxidising underframe etches originated by Masokits? As some will know, I have had confidence issues for far too long and even the cunning plan of making a public declaration that a certain model WILL be built has so far failed to have the desired effect. It's my problem and I need to get it fixed, but feel free to say "Oh, just get on with it". Hang on: my cousin has already tried that. Seriously though, well done! Chris 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 21/04/2019 at 10:14, Brinkly said: Thanks Tim, I enjoyed making them and learnt a lot. I have a few other items of stock I'd like to build, quite high on the list is a plywood version of the GWR box van and the LMS design, but BR built, cattle wagon. I think Geoff Kent built the cattle wagon in his second book. Regards, Nick Damn I remember taking that photo of B891054 back in 2012... certainly don't look like that clean now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted July 14, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2019 Hi everyone, I stripped a Bachmann MK1 BG yesterday and sprayed it using Halfords Burgundy Red. Unfortunately, I ended up with orange peel on the first attempt. The second attempt took place this morning. It still isn’t perfect, but I think once it is weathered and in service, I don’t think it will be very noticeable. I’ve decided that I am going to airbrush all stock from this point: the finish is much better than brush or rattle can. Still I had a go! Lining needs to be applied. Evening homework this week. Any comments are most welcome! Kind regards, Nick 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted July 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Brinkly said: Lining needs to be applied. Evening homework this week. Any comments are most welcome! Yes. Get on with your homework, my friend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted July 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Brinkly said: Any comments are most welcome! ********! Seriously Nick, I have found through bitter experience that the use of rattle cans for the 'top coat' have always resulted in an unsatisfactory finish. I found them uncontrollable compared to the fine adjustments possible with the airbrush. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted July 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2019 That’s a real shame I have generally found the Halfords cans very easy to get a very good finish, sometimes too good in that it shows up the imperfections too much! Then I sprayed a Grange with Simons acrylic varnish, which on one side resulted in a very rough orange peel finish. Certainly seems that rattle cans are a lot higher risk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted July 15, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Re6/6 said: ********! Seriously Nick, I have found through bitter experience that the use of rattle cans for the 'top coat' have always resulted in an unsatisfactory finish. I found them uncontrollable compared to the fine adjustments possible with the airbrush. And a very good morning to you too @Re6/6 As a result of the weekend's painting, I will be purchasing a decent airbrush and compressor! I know some people get an excellent finish with a rattle can, but even doing 'everything right' the second time, hasn't produced that much of a better finish. I got on very well when I used @Maurice Hopper Iwata airbrush to paint the wagons with. This has totally convince me that it is the right route. I admire the likes of @Tony Wright who use car aerosol paints and get very good finishes with it! Next job will be to actually commit and buy one! Kind regards, Nick. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Such BGs were often in a fairly grubby state, Nick, so a decent weathering mix, applied with your new airbrush, seems to be the ticket here. If you use enamels for your weathering mix, you have the major advantage of being able to wipe most of them off (leaving grubby bits in the nooks and crannies) and then applying a further coat. Alternatively, if you don't like what you've done, it's much easier to wipe all the enamels off and start weathering again, PROVIDED you don't leave it more than about a day after the initial air brush coat, as by then, the enamels will have gone hard. Edited July 17, 2019 by Captain Kernow 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 11:20, Brinkly said: As a result of the weekend's painting, I will be purchasing a decent airbrush and compressor! Please let us know how you get on with it Nick. I have tested a number of rattle cans by now and only two brands seem to be reasonably reliable. And then you have to hope they have the colour you need in their range! I like your improvised spraying booth by the way 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 10:20, Brinkly said: I know some people get an excellent finish with a rattle can I my experience, Halfords primers (white, grey and red oxide) are usually pretty reliable, if used correctly, in terms of giving good, even and smooth coverage. I also rate their Matt Black, which actually comes out semi-matt and I'd probably not use anything else for any model railway application that needs to be painted black, including black locos, wagon underframes etc. (in fact, I've only just sprayed the underframe of the Martin Jones Ceremonial Free Box Van this evening). 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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