RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Two_sugars said: But you couldn't get Double Diamond (Vaux), in the Black Diamond (Blue Star/Newcastle and Scottish). Looking good Brian. John Better to get a pint of Lorimer & Clarks' Best Scotch in the Half Moon in Easington Village!! Double Diamond..no thanks... Newcastle Ex.. pangalactic gargle blaster....full of chemicals... Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 More progress today has pretty much completed the screens building. Firstly, the diagonal bracing was manufactured using plastic angle and card and then painted to match the "steel work" The postie delivered another pack of Evergreen Number 126 so the missing "exposed beams" were added to the end walls. The roof was also added. Finally, a roof ridge ventilator was added - this utilised the various parts from the Scalescenes loco shed kit but shortened to suit. The substantially complete building has now replaced its mock up on the layout. The next project will be the pit headstock for which I have a kit but scant instructions - should be interesting. Regards, Brian. 9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Hold my thought on the weathering, Brian. Have you seen this thread? Some nice prototype photos of NCB workings not unlike yours - and nowhere near as grubby as I would have imagined... Worth a visit for some inspiration, if you haven't seen it already. Cheers Scott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 17 hours ago, jukebox said: Hold my thought on the weathering, Brian. Have you seen this thread? Some nice prototype photos of NCB workings not unlike yours - and nowhere near as grubby as I would have imagined... Worth a visit for some inspiration, if you haven't seen it already. Cheers Scott Thanks for that Scott, I've had a look and it really is a great thread, now following. Best Regards, Brian. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 Following a very helpful suggestion by Tom Shaw of this parish, I purchased this kit a couple of years ago. There are no instructions with the kit. However, I managed to download some limited instructions from the internet shortly after purchase. In the interim Modelux have gone bust. As I said, interesting. I'll hopefully make a start on this tomorrow. Needless to say, I'll let you know how I get on. Regards, Brian. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) An interesting kit as I said. I've made a start but the overwhelming impression I get of the "steelwork" parts is that they are very fragile being only 2mm lazer cut card so I have taken the precaution of scanning them just in case of any future damage - I gave the mock up of this structure a glancing blow with my elbow in the shed the other day. I could fabricate the parts in plastic strip, angle or H section by using these scans. Scanned headgear parts 1.pdf Scanned headgear parts 2.pdf I've also found an internet pic which has helped with the build. So here are some pics of the build so far. The "shaft" in this pic was supposed to have a roof in the kit but non was found so I had to make one but there were a few other spares provided. I'm inclined to stop at this point because I want to truncate this structure so it emerges from a substantial brick building as used to exist at Easington as below. I need to build the brick structure supporting the head stock and its corresponding winding house but perhaps a bit of measuring up in the shed first viz a vie elbow height Regards, Brian. Edited October 11, 2019 by Brian D 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 Very nice..but that top girder work looks very high. The two originals at Horden had a girder framework which ended at the bearing level of the sheeves. The later skip winder did have more steelwork above the sheeves. Horden pit head gear The picture from Easington is interesting though. it shows the changes after the 1951 disaster. Baz 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Hi Brian; My advice, possibly worth substantially less than the 2p it's nationally valued at: I'd ditch the card steelwork and use it as a template for plasticard and rod/strip. I would worry that over time the card sags and warps - esp. those long diagonals - , and replacing it in situ would be a chore. A few hours now to build something rigid and durable would pay dividends. Cheers, Scott 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 PS - rather surprised at the large proportion of red cars in the car park at Easington. I'd not have had that mix if I were modelling it! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 23 hours ago, Barry O said: Very nice..but that top girder work looks very high. The two originals at Horden had a girder framework which ended at the bearing level of the sheeves. The later skip winder did have more steelwork above the sheeves. Horden pit head gear The picture from Easington is interesting though. it shows the changes after the 1951 disaster. Baz Absolutely Baz, I'll reduce it in height. I've looked at a lot of pit head structures and they all look different even at the same pit. Also, my model is a touch freelance but I'm hoping to give it a taste of Easington. Limited space in the shed dictates compression so I cannot do a proper scale model of the colliery structures. 16 hours ago, jukebox said: Hi Brian; My advice, possibly worth substantially less than the 2p it's nationally valued at: I'd ditch the card steelwork and use it as a template for plasticard and rod/strip. I would worry that over time the card sags and warps - esp. those long diagonals - , and replacing it in situ would be a chore. A few hours now to build something rigid and durable would pay dividends. Cheers, Scott Totally agree Scott. The kit was a great purchase if nothing else than to use as a pattern but the pulley wheels (sheaves) are really the icing on the cake - so difficult to scratch build. I'm concentrating on the brick support structure for now (already drawn something out in TurboCAD) and will build that first, see how the truncated kit looks on top of it and then replicate it in Evergreen styrene sections. Thanks guys. Regards, Brian. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2019 Brian, i think someone has done a 3D renderedset of sheaves on Shapeways. I haven't seen one close up but they look good. Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 10 hours ago, Barry O said: Brian, i think someone has done a 3D renderedset of sheaves on Shapeways. I haven't seen one close up but they look good. Baz Thanks Baz. However, I'm more than happy with the ones that came with the kit now that I've glued together the parts (each wheel is in three parts) - see below. Regards, Brian. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) As I said in an earlier post, I've been into TurboCAD and produced a drawing of the main side walls. These have been printed and pasted onto mounting card (they are longer than A4 so I can't use my stock of grey board which is A4 size). I have posed the first cut out side with the kit to show the effect I'm looking for... ...which is basically this. I found this pic on google images a while back (apologies for any copyright issues - if notified I will delete the image) and it's the only one I could find of the end walls of the main structures, the one visible here is I assume, the winding house. The artwork was done during the colliery demolition I think. A few cheats to note - I've avoided semi-circular window heads (they are a pain to cut in card of any thickness) and the building will have a flat roof where the pit head "steel" structures sit but I want to keep the pitch on the end walls if possible (I'm off to TurboCAD in a minute to sketch out the end walls). Regards, Brian. Edited October 13, 2019 by Brian D 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) The main brick structure of the pit head ("heapstead"?) is taking longer to make because it is so large (in excess of a foot long). However, earlier today I had three main sides complete - one side and both ends, so the opportunity was taken to have a trial erection (ooh erh matron) in the shed to see how it looked - see below. The big white things are my right angle magnetic clamps which come in handy for this sort of thing. Here is a pic showing all the recently completed colliery buildings. There is still the winding house and the conveyor system to be added to the colliery complex. I managed to complete the last main side of the structure this afternoon. You can't have enough clamps! Regards, Brian. Edited October 16, 2019 by Brian D 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISW Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 18:55, Brian D said: The main brick structure of the pit head ("heapstead"?) is taking longer to make because it is so large (in excess of a foot long). However, earlier today I had three main sides complete - one side and both ends, so the opportunity was taken to have a trial erection (ooh erh matron) in the shed to see how it looked - see below. Regards, Brian. Brian, I think it would look a little better if you could leave a bit of a gap between the bufferstops and the wall of the building. People will want / need to get through at some point. Maybe a bit of a dirt path? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 On 18/10/2019 at 19:14, ISW said: Brian, I think it would look a little better if you could leave a bit of a gap between the bufferstops and the wall of the building. People will want / need to get through at some point. Maybe a bit of a dirt path? Thanks Ian, yes I tend to agree. Space is extremely tight in the colliery though so I can't promise to implement your recommendation. We'll see. Best Regards, Brian. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 It's coming on so well Brian, I like those corner clamps, nice idea mate. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 We've been away for the weekend up to the Midlands so no progress on the "heapstead", maybe tomorrow there should be something to report. However, while we were away we had a quick visit to The Great Central at Loughborough. Now, how about doing a "Driver Experience" day on something like this? The BR 9F 2-10-0s are truly impressive locos. The green livery and non-original name doesn't really detract from the overall visual impact. I'm really glad I have my own Bachmann model to use on Deneside, although perhaps it needs the modifications necessary to convert it to a Tyne Dock based specimen. Regards, Brian. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 G'day Folks Fancy, naming a steam engine after a 'Football team'......... manna 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftwood Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I have not been on RMweb for a while, and it seems Brian that I have a lot of catching up to do. This Colliery build is excellent and with some decent weathering will really set the scene. Great. Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Significant progress today. After I posted here yesterday, I fabricated the 4 corner pier overlays thus. This morning I wrapped them in brick paper... ...and glued them to the appropriate ends. Assembly of the main elements followed thus. The roofs were then added, the flat "concrete" roof will support the headstock. Lots of coping stones and cappings to be added and then I need to reconstruct the card headstock kit in plastic. Regards, Brian. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 It seems to have taken nearly all day to finish off this building but now its done. So I've made a start on the plastic headstock using the kit part scans and various Evergreen styrene sections. Regards, Brian. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sludger Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Hi Brian, the colliery is coming together really well. Keep up the excellent work mate. Regards, Trev. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 The headstock is now pretty much complete, I only need to sort out a proper axle for the sheaves (rather than the drill bit shown here) and paint it. Here are the pics... ...and on the heapstead. I approached this project with trepidation but I'm quite pleased with how it has turned out. Meanwhile, this stranger is on a running in turn from Darlington works following overhaul. This Oxford Rail offering is a little beauty and runs soooo slowly (I feel a video coming on). I have a growing stash of non NE Region locos and this the latest addition. I need to build a Great Eastern flavour layout in the future perhaps, once Deneside is substantially finished. Regards, Brian. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 As you say, a real Beauty Brian, there is something about short stumpy parallel Boilered Locos IMHO, just lovely, especially in that lined livery as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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