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Get yourself to ‘The Works’ if you have one local and buy a pack of their cardboard gift tags.  The pieces card can be found a use for but the reel of string they supply for tying the tags on is perfect for what you want. Even Sort of looks like wire rope when painted.  Added bonus - dirt cheap.

 

https://www.theworks.co.uk/p/wedding-invitation-cards/brown-square-string-tags---20-pack/5052089258792

 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, 5BarVT said:

Very nice. 

I’ve  been resolving forces . . . should the angled girders go right down to ground level and thus be visible in the gap between the buildings?

Maybe they are!

Paul.

 

Well spotted, shortage of space  I'm afraid.  To try and minimise the visual impact I have moved the head gear back along the flat roof as far as it will go and put some land form under the winding house to ensure the pulley cables don't scrape the roof parapet - see following pics.

 

18 hours ago, manna said:

G'Day Folks

 

Try 'Fishing Line', comes in lots of thickness's, and non 'Hairy'

 

manna

 

17 hours ago, jukebox said:

Or wax/oil on the cotton to give it a greasy shine, and slick down the errant bouffant?

 

16 hours ago, lezz01 said:

You could try nylon thread instead of cotton it's much stronger and not hairy it also comes in grey.

Regards Lez. 

 

6 hours ago, BoD said:

Get yourself to ‘The Works’ if you have one local and buy a pack of their cardboard gift tags.  The pieces card can be found a use for but the reel of string they supply for tying the tags on is perfect for what you want. Even Sort of looks like wire rope when painted.  Added bonus - dirt cheap.

 

https://www.theworks.co.uk/p/wedding-invitation-cards/brown-square-string-tags---20-pack/5052089258792

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your various suggestions guys, I've plumped for mono-filament fishing line, see following post.

 

Regards,

Brian.

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As I have mentioned above, I have made the "pulley cables" from fishing line, 10 or 12 lb breaking strain I think (the thickest I had).  A U shape loop of line was threaded through the lid of the shaft and glued to the underside.

 

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Each "cable" was run over its corresponding pulley...

 

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...and yet more fishing equipment (7 BB split shot) was added to each "cable"...

 

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...and the split shot were then threaded through the appropriate hole in the winding house which then imparted a little tension into the "cables".

 

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This pic below shows the land form (polystyrene tile as yet un-sceniced) under the winding house which is now raised up slightly so the cables clear the parapet.

 

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The head frame has been pushed back as far as possible to allude to the fact that the racking struts are contained within the "heapstead" to hopefully minimise the visual problem picked up by 5BarVT.

 

This all may seem a complete faff but I don't really want to permanently connect anything to anything so that, if necessary, I can recycle these buildings on another layout.  The layout is permanent so I don't have to glue the buildings down.

 

Regards,

Brian.

 

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The remaining piece of the colliery jig-saw has been commenced i.e. the conveyor housing linking the heapstead to the screens.  Here is the incomplete conveyor housing...

 

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...and almost complete but still roofless posed on temporary supports in the colliery.

 

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Getting there!

 

Regards,

Brian.

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I have done some more work on the conveyor today after deciding how I would form a curved roof for it.  The actual roof covering is a Scalescenes texture (old corrugated iron) printed directly onto thin card.  The curve is formed as follows.  Firstly diminishing in width strips of mounting board were glued on to the conveyor "ceiling"...

 

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...and the card roof glued over the top and cut to width and glued in place.

 

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This completes the actual conveyor enclosure...

 

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...so the supporting trestles were fabbed up from various Evergreen sections.

 

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These obviously need painting but everything was posed on the layout to see how it looked and to check rolling stock clearances.

 

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The ground cover and scenics in this are will be the next mini project.

 

Regards,

Brian.

 

 

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19 hours ago, Toftwood said:

That looks so good, well done!

 

Pete

 

Many thanks for your kind remarks chaps.  I've painted the trestles now so this is the final look...

 

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...and, after shunting a few hoppers, this is the view from "The Big Chair" featuring all of the recently completed colliery buildings.  Good bye mock ups!

 

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Regards,

Brian.

 

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Hi Brian,

 

I’m a big fan of your layout, and the colliery is looking great.

 

Is the conveyor free standing? I also don’t want to permanently attach certain buildings on my layout to the baseboard and have found magnets useful for a strong but removable option.


I need to make a covered walkway between two mill buildings and really like the look of your conveyor. I plan to hold this in place with a magnet in each end holding against a plate on the inside wall of the building.

 

Best regards,

Pete

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9 hours ago, BurscoughCurves said:

Hi Brian,

 

I’m a big fan of your layout, and the colliery is looking great.

 

Is the conveyor free standing? I also don’t want to permanently attach certain buildings on my layout to the baseboard and have found magnets useful for a strong but removable option.


I need to make a covered walkway between two mill buildings and really like the look of your conveyor. I plan to hold this in place with a magnet in each end holding against a plate on the inside wall of the building.

 

Best regards,

Pete

 

Thanks for your kind words and interest Pete. The conveyor is sort of free standing. There is a thin ledge on each building at its ends and the trestles supports the conveyor where it changes direction. There is also a bit of friction in play by shoving the two end buildings (heapstead and screens) firmly up against the corresponding ends of the conveyor. 

Thanks for the tip about magnets which is probably too late for this build but something I will remember for the future. Great advice. 

 

Kind Regards, 

Brian 

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I've started the base for the scenics in the colliery area by adding a bit of land-form (expanded polystyrene hot wire shaped to fit)...

 

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...which will be covered with filler or plaster bandage, painted and static grassed before being dirtied up a bit with "coal".  I thought about putting a bit of land-form here...

 

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...but I thought another little colliery building would be better, hence this.

 

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Regards,

Brian.

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The small additional colliery building is now complete...

 

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...and is in position on the layout.

 

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I am trying to complete the rest of the scenics in the colliery which will mean that the layout will be substantially complete bar some more signalling additions and further tweaks to the greenery already completed (i.e. the addition of further vegetation, bushes and trees).

 

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Brian.

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Can I suggest you douse the whole area in dark colours? Coal and the rock hard coal "sludge" got everywhere (the sludge was like black mud and set like concrete). Not much grass to be seen in Horden Colliery environs.

Baz

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8 hours ago, Barry O said:

Brian 

Can I suggest you douse the whole area in dark colours? Coal and the rock hard coal "sludge" got everywhere (the sludge was like black mud and set like concrete). Not much grass to be seen in Horden Colliery environs.

Baz

Yes I agree, filthy places collieries are!

 

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On 17/11/2019 at 06:30, Barry O said:

Brian 

Can I suggest you douse the whole area in dark colours? Coal and the rock hard coal "sludge" got everywhere (the sludge was like black mud and set like concrete). Not much grass to be seen in Horden Colliery environs.

Baz

 

On 17/11/2019 at 15:19, Toftwood said:

Yes I agree, filthy places collieries are!

 

Pete

 

Tend to agree but I have added a low grassy bank at the baseboard edge along the colliery arrival/departure road mainly to minimise the chances of Q6 + hoppers being involved in a death plunge to the shed floor, see below...

 

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...but everything to the right of this track will be black.

 

I have added a small water tower to the loco head shunt but I also probably need to add a simple coal stage as well to augment the steam loco facilities.

 

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Regards,

Brian.

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On 12 November 2019 at 16:32, Brian D said:

 

Many thanks for your kind remarks chaps.  I've painted the trestles now so this is the final look...

 

IMG_20191112_145016.jpg.87182a6310f8c58d40dc63fcf9895d33.jpg

 

IMG_20191112_145035.jpg.3f58111fec70de6441a576c6d8282983.jpg

 

...and, after shunting a few hoppers, this is the view from "The Big Chair" featuring all of the recently completed colliery buildings.  Good bye mock ups!

 

IMG_20191112_160329crop.jpg.c0ebe1db7549716cb2abc493e4035c08.jpg

 

Regards,

Brian.

 

If I may Brian, I am going to not copy exactly but adapt your method for the conveyor onto our current club (Thetford MRS) layout Fen Lane.  I have built a pair of grain silos from a Pringles tin (other crisps available) but have been struggling to Finnish off the tops. your conveyor suitably adapted would do the job.

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These are older photos, 

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This is how it looks at the moment. As you can see it needs something to connect the silos to the warehouse.

 

Pete

 

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23 hours ago, Toftwood said:

If I may Brian, I am going to not copy exactly but adapt your method for the conveyor onto our current club (Thetford MRS) layout Fen Lane.  I have built a pair of grain silos from a Pringles tin (other crisps available) but have been struggling to Finnish off the tops. your conveyor suitably adapted would do the job.

IMG_0231.JPG.873af814f3584d90a0ee469d4947e28c.JPG

IMG_0233.JPG.01e7efb6b19bfcf7ad14b9589f735415.JPG

IMG_0235.JPG.3f8899b3687e0892f7ff8e1f8eb3e6a7.JPG

These are older photos, 

IMG_2006.JPG.9cd3f6867c6efa8d2b943c98c71fbf9d.JPG

This is how it looks at the moment. As you can see it needs something to connect the silos to the warehouse.

 

Pete

 

 

Pete,

 

Feel free to "borrow" whatever you want.  Nothing is copyright or patented - I'm just so pleased to have assisted or inspired you in some small way. I recall a layout I've seen at an exhibition and in one of the mags called "Fenchurch St. Peter" which had prominent grain silos and was based in the fens, might be worth a look.

 

Best Regards,

Brian.

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While waiting for some filler covering land form to dry in the colliery area, I used these...

 

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...which are supposed to represent timber planks and pit props to make a coaling stage for the colliery shunters thus.

 

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Another little micro project completed bar painting and a bit of coal to be added.

 

Regards,

Brian.

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On 20 November 2019 at 18:43, Brian D said:

 

Pete,

 

Feel free to "borrow" whatever you want.  Nothing is copyright or patented - I'm just so pleased to have assisted or inspired you in some small way. I recall a layout I've seen at an exhibition and in one of the mags called "Fenchurch St. Peter" which had prominent grain silos and was based in the fens, might be worth a look.

 

Best Regards,

Brian.

Brian.

 

Hi Brian, thanks, yes I have seen this one also, at The Bury St Edmunds show a couple of years ago. Very good and well run. Our Fen Lane is in a similar vein i.e. 'somewhere in East Anglian fens' very freelance, although terminus to fiddle yard. 

 

Regards

 

Pete

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In recent days I have been working around the rail entrance to the colliery, firstly trimming back some of the grass around the loco spur...

 

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...to accommodate some substantial brick walls to keep the local oiks out.

 

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The "ground" outside the walls has to be touched up and the surface within the walls is yet to be covered but I've added the loco facilities to see how it looks.

 

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I have also made some gates from Evergreen strip which will be placed in the gap above.

 

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Regards,

Brian.

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