RMweb Gold BoD Posted November 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Get yourself to ‘The Works’ if you have one local and buy a pack of their cardboard gift tags. The pieces card can be found a use for but the reel of string they supply for tying the tags on is perfect for what you want. Even Sort of looks like wire rope when painted. Added bonus - dirt cheap. https://www.theworks.co.uk/p/wedding-invitation-cards/brown-square-string-tags---20-pack/5052089258792 Edited November 8, 2019 by BoD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 19 hours ago, 5BarVT said: Very nice. I’ve been resolving forces . . . should the angled girders go right down to ground level and thus be visible in the gap between the buildings? Maybe they are! Paul. Well spotted, shortage of space I'm afraid. To try and minimise the visual impact I have moved the head gear back along the flat roof as far as it will go and put some land form under the winding house to ensure the pulley cables don't scrape the roof parapet - see following pics. 18 hours ago, manna said: G'Day Folks Try 'Fishing Line', comes in lots of thickness's, and non 'Hairy' manna 17 hours ago, jukebox said: Or wax/oil on the cotton to give it a greasy shine, and slick down the errant bouffant? 16 hours ago, lezz01 said: You could try nylon thread instead of cotton it's much stronger and not hairy it also comes in grey. Regards Lez. 6 hours ago, BoD said: Get yourself to ‘The Works’ if you have one local and buy a pack of their cardboard gift tags. The pieces card can be found a use for but the reel of string they supply for tying the tags on is perfect for what you want. Even Sort of looks like wire rope when painted. Added bonus - dirt cheap. https://www.theworks.co.uk/p/wedding-invitation-cards/brown-square-string-tags---20-pack/5052089258792 Thanks for your various suggestions guys, I've plumped for mono-filament fishing line, see following post. Regards, Brian. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) As I have mentioned above, I have made the "pulley cables" from fishing line, 10 or 12 lb breaking strain I think (the thickest I had). A U shape loop of line was threaded through the lid of the shaft and glued to the underside. Each "cable" was run over its corresponding pulley... ...and yet more fishing equipment (7 BB split shot) was added to each "cable"... ...and the split shot were then threaded through the appropriate hole in the winding house which then imparted a little tension into the "cables". This pic below shows the land form (polystyrene tile as yet un-sceniced) under the winding house which is now raised up slightly so the cables clear the parapet. The head frame has been pushed back as far as possible to allude to the fact that the racking struts are contained within the "heapstead" to hopefully minimise the visual problem picked up by 5BarVT. This all may seem a complete faff but I don't really want to permanently connect anything to anything so that, if necessary, I can recycle these buildings on another layout. The layout is permanent so I don't have to glue the buildings down. Regards, Brian. Edited November 8, 2019 by Brian D 10 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Wow your work is of a mega high standard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 The remaining piece of the colliery jig-saw has been commenced i.e. the conveyor housing linking the heapstead to the screens. Here is the incomplete conveyor housing... ...and almost complete but still roofless posed on temporary supports in the colliery. Getting there! Regards, Brian. 14 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftwood Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 8 November 2019 at 19:14, danstercivicman said: Wow your work is of a mega high standard I'll second that!! Continuing to follow avidly...... Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) I have done some more work on the conveyor today after deciding how I would form a curved roof for it. The actual roof covering is a Scalescenes texture (old corrugated iron) printed directly onto thin card. The curve is formed as follows. Firstly diminishing in width strips of mounting board were glued on to the conveyor "ceiling"... ...and the card roof glued over the top and cut to width and glued in place. This completes the actual conveyor enclosure... ...so the supporting trestles were fabbed up from various Evergreen sections. These obviously need painting but everything was posed on the layout to see how it looked and to check rolling stock clearances. The ground cover and scenics in this are will be the next mini project. Regards, Brian. Edited November 11, 2019 by Brian D 5 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftwood Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 That looks so good, well done! Pete 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bill37 Posted November 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) An excellent piece of work Brian. Bill. Edited November 11, 2019 by Bill37 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 19 hours ago, Toftwood said: That looks so good, well done! Pete Many thanks for your kind remarks chaps. I've painted the trestles now so this is the final look... ...and, after shunting a few hoppers, this is the view from "The Big Chair" featuring all of the recently completed colliery buildings. Good bye mock ups! Regards, Brian. 9 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2019 Very nice Brian. Loving the wriggly tin. Regards Lez. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurscoughCurves Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hi Brian, I’m a big fan of your layout, and the colliery is looking great. Is the conveyor free standing? I also don’t want to permanently attach certain buildings on my layout to the baseboard and have found magnets useful for a strong but removable option. I need to make a covered walkway between two mill buildings and really like the look of your conveyor. I plan to hold this in place with a magnet in each end holding against a plate on the inside wall of the building. Best regards, Pete 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 9 hours ago, BurscoughCurves said: Hi Brian, I’m a big fan of your layout, and the colliery is looking great. Is the conveyor free standing? I also don’t want to permanently attach certain buildings on my layout to the baseboard and have found magnets useful for a strong but removable option. I need to make a covered walkway between two mill buildings and really like the look of your conveyor. I plan to hold this in place with a magnet in each end holding against a plate on the inside wall of the building. Best regards, Pete Thanks for your kind words and interest Pete. The conveyor is sort of free standing. There is a thin ledge on each building at its ends and the trestles supports the conveyor where it changes direction. There is also a bit of friction in play by shoving the two end buildings (heapstead and screens) firmly up against the corresponding ends of the conveyor. Thanks for the tip about magnets which is probably too late for this build but something I will remember for the future. Great advice. Kind Regards, Brian 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 I've started the base for the scenics in the colliery area by adding a bit of land-form (expanded polystyrene hot wire shaped to fit)... ...which will be covered with filler or plaster bandage, painted and static grassed before being dirtied up a bit with "coal". I thought about putting a bit of land-form here... ...but I thought another little colliery building would be better, hence this. Regards, Brian. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Crickey Brian, a few days away, and not looked in for a week or two and the Colliery is looking superb mate. it just looks so natural and as though it's always been there. Well done. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 I eventually got round to editing and uploading the recent North Norfolk Railway video and you can see it here.. Regards, Brian. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 The small additional colliery building is now complete... ...and is in position on the layout. I am trying to complete the rest of the scenics in the colliery which will mean that the layout will be substantially complete bar some more signalling additions and further tweaks to the greenery already completed (i.e. the addition of further vegetation, bushes and trees). Regards, Brian. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2019 Brian Can I suggest you douse the whole area in dark colours? Coal and the rock hard coal "sludge" got everywhere (the sludge was like black mud and set like concrete). Not much grass to be seen in Horden Colliery environs. Baz 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftwood Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Barry O said: Brian Can I suggest you douse the whole area in dark colours? Coal and the rock hard coal "sludge" got everywhere (the sludge was like black mud and set like concrete). Not much grass to be seen in Horden Colliery environs. Baz Yes I agree, filthy places collieries are! Pete 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 17/11/2019 at 06:30, Barry O said: Brian Can I suggest you douse the whole area in dark colours? Coal and the rock hard coal "sludge" got everywhere (the sludge was like black mud and set like concrete). Not much grass to be seen in Horden Colliery environs. Baz On 17/11/2019 at 15:19, Toftwood said: Yes I agree, filthy places collieries are! Pete Tend to agree but I have added a low grassy bank at the baseboard edge along the colliery arrival/departure road mainly to minimise the chances of Q6 + hoppers being involved in a death plunge to the shed floor, see below... ...but everything to the right of this track will be black. I have added a small water tower to the loco head shunt but I also probably need to add a simple coal stage as well to augment the steam loco facilities. Regards, Brian. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftwood Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 12 November 2019 at 16:32, Brian D said: Many thanks for your kind remarks chaps. I've painted the trestles now so this is the final look... ...and, after shunting a few hoppers, this is the view from "The Big Chair" featuring all of the recently completed colliery buildings. Good bye mock ups! Regards, Brian. If I may Brian, I am going to not copy exactly but adapt your method for the conveyor onto our current club (Thetford MRS) layout Fen Lane. I have built a pair of grain silos from a Pringles tin (other crisps available) but have been struggling to Finnish off the tops. your conveyor suitably adapted would do the job. These are older photos, This is how it looks at the moment. As you can see it needs something to connect the silos to the warehouse. Pete 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 23 hours ago, Toftwood said: If I may Brian, I am going to not copy exactly but adapt your method for the conveyor onto our current club (Thetford MRS) layout Fen Lane. I have built a pair of grain silos from a Pringles tin (other crisps available) but have been struggling to Finnish off the tops. your conveyor suitably adapted would do the job. These are older photos, This is how it looks at the moment. As you can see it needs something to connect the silos to the warehouse. Pete Pete, Feel free to "borrow" whatever you want. Nothing is copyright or patented - I'm just so pleased to have assisted or inspired you in some small way. I recall a layout I've seen at an exhibition and in one of the mags called "Fenchurch St. Peter" which had prominent grain silos and was based in the fens, might be worth a look. Best Regards, Brian. Brian. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 While waiting for some filler covering land form to dry in the colliery area, I used these... ...which are supposed to represent timber planks and pit props to make a coaling stage for the colliery shunters thus. Another little micro project completed bar painting and a bit of coal to be added. Regards, Brian. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftwood Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 20 November 2019 at 18:43, Brian D said: Pete, Feel free to "borrow" whatever you want. Nothing is copyright or patented - I'm just so pleased to have assisted or inspired you in some small way. I recall a layout I've seen at an exhibition and in one of the mags called "Fenchurch St. Peter" which had prominent grain silos and was based in the fens, might be worth a look. Best Regards, Brian. Brian. Hi Brian, thanks, yes I have seen this one also, at The Bury St Edmunds show a couple of years ago. Very good and well run. Our Fen Lane is in a similar vein i.e. 'somewhere in East Anglian fens' very freelance, although terminus to fiddle yard. Regards Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 In recent days I have been working around the rail entrance to the colliery, firstly trimming back some of the grass around the loco spur... ...to accommodate some substantial brick walls to keep the local oiks out. The "ground" outside the walls has to be touched up and the surface within the walls is yet to be covered but I've added the loco facilities to see how it looks. I have also made some gates from Evergreen strip which will be placed in the gap above. Regards, Brian. 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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