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You’d probably do better to place your cabinets not so close to the signals, more clear of the running lines, so staff can open the doors and work on them without having to get clear every time a train goes past, like the one in your photo.

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15 hours ago, Northroader said:

You’d probably do better to place your cabinets not so close to the signals, more clear of the running lines, so staff can open the doors and work on them without having to get clear every time a train goes past, like the one in your photo.

 

Well spotted and that thought did cross my mind but the pic was taken last week, not in 1950/1960 when the layout is set. H&S wasn't so in your face in those times. The orange army didn't exist. However, I take your point and I need to research contemporaneous pics to see whether they were sited as they are today. They are not glued down so I can move them if need be. They are coming off later so I can draw on doors and hinges so will try and research a bit more before putting them back on the layout. 

Thanks again for your comments and interest. 

Regards 

Brian 

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I would suggest looking for photos of Newcastle Central as examples of 50s/60s NE practice.

From memory, I know there were some on the platforms at the east end.

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6 hours ago, 5BarVT said:

I would suggest looking for photos of Newcastle Central as examples of 50s/60s NE practice.

From memory, I know there were some on the platforms at the east end.

Paul.

 

You mean like this Paul?

 

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Brian.

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Before Paul sent me looking at Newcastle, I found these in BR Deltic days.

 

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So, I have decided to compromise.  I have left the two cabinets at the platform ends where they are (as per KGX and NCL) but moved the other two to the side, as below.

 

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Meanwhile, the Deltic pics above inspired me to get "The Durham Light Infantry" out of its box.

 

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Regards

Brian.

 

PS  I'm probably running roughshod through copyright rules with these pics of pics so if anyone objects I will freely delete them.

 

 

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I've opened another thread concerning the construction of my DJH D20 kit which is proving challenging. If you are interested you can read it here...

 

 

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Brian.

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On 24/05/2020 at 19:35, BurscoughCurves said:

Hi Brian,

 

Like the video as always.

 

Question; how do you control the indexing of your turntable? Sorry if you’ve explained this before.

 

Regards,

Pete

 

Sorry to take so long replying Pete. The short answer is that there is no indexing. It's all done by eye. The turntable motor and gearbox is an Expo Tools item powered by a 6 volt battery pack through a switch I purchased on ebay which controls the speed and direction of rotation of the table. There are pics and a fuller description earlier in my thread. I'll just have a quick scan back to see if I can find the post number. 

Regards 

Brian 

 

PS  Having had a quick look, more detail is shown on this page - 

 

 

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I've just uploaded another video featuring a Peak on a "Wind Cutter" train of minerals.  This consist is not something I remember seeing back in the day.  It's sort of inspired by the current day Great Central (Heritage) Railway and is not really a typical NER (BR)  sight to say the least but I was reading the other day about the introduction of the Peak class and noted that they were so heavy that they didn't need a brake tender on unfitted freight trains so I thought I would put it on the front of my minerals and it looks quite good I think.  The video is here...

 

 

Enjoy or otherwise.

 

Regards,

Brian. 

 

PS Please forgive the wrong headcode on the Peak and the SPAD at 6 minutes in. 

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On 26/05/2020 at 15:36, Brian D said:

 

Sorry to take so long replying Pete. The short answer is that there is no indexing. It's all done by eye. The turntable motor and gearbox is an Expo Tools item powered by a 6 volt battery pack through a switch I purchased on ebay which controls the speed and direction of rotation of the table. There are pics and a fuller description earlier in my thread. I'll just have a quick scan back to see if I can find the post number. 

Regards 

Brian 

 

PS  Having had a quick look, more detail is shown on this page - 

 

 


Hi Brian,

 

Thanks for the reply. You’re a dab hand at aligning it then! I have a similar setup on my layout but control the motor from the track bus via a decoder. It works well but needs a good look on final approach!

 

Love the layout, especially the NCB area. I am pleasantly surprised by the amount of operational interest that termini such as ours can give. I am expanding my WTT with each operating session. I’m glad I went with a terminus over the alternative, and extremely tight, roundy roundy option I was toying with.
 

All the best,

Pete

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On 31/05/2020 at 13:18, BurscoughCurves said:


You’re a dab hand at aligning it then!

 

I only get the occasional derailment :D always due to pilot error..  I had a fleeting look at your terminus layout thread and the layout looks seriously impressive.  I'll read it properly later.  Indeed, lots of operational interest on my layout what with 4 platforms, goods yard, mpd and the colliery.  When I get bored I change era (diesel to steam or visa versa) which usually keeps the mojo going.

Thanks again for your interest and kind comments.

 

Regards,

Brian.

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Another mini project is in hand.  I have decided to change the goods shed.  The current shed is a straight un-bashed Scalescenes kit which I'm increasingly beginning to think looks a bit out of place, more GWR than NER.  So I have made a start on the Smart Models shed which is quoted as being the former NER shed at Ashington but looks identical to that at the Beamish Open Air Museum which I have photographed in the past.  Progress is as shown below.

 

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Further pics to follow as progress allows.

 

Regards,

Brian.

 

 

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Speaking of the diesel era,  a parcels service is held at the outer home signal...

 

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...while a passenger service traverses the station throat and departs...

 

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...allowing the parcels train to enter platform 3.

 

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These Bachmann and Heljan Bo-Bos are such sweet runners.

 

Regards,

Brian.

 

 

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Construction of the goods shed continues.  Here are the elements assembled so far posed on the layout.

 

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And the real McCoy.

 

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This last pic has prompted me to think that I might put some granite sets down.

 

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Brian.

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1 hour ago, Brian D said:

 

Construction of the goods shed continues.  Here are the elements assembled so far posed on the layout.

 

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And the real McCoy.

 

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This last pic has prompted me to think that I might put some granite sets down.

 

Regards,

Brian.

 

Don't forget the ruts where carts were backed up to wagons, quite clear in the pic...

 

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The kit is slowly taking shape but I decided to kit-bash it a bit as follows.

 

The current goods shed and loading bank arrangement is as below.

 

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I have decided to swap the positions of the shed and bank as shown in the pic below  (which also shows the partially completed new shed).

 

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The new shed includes a ramp and a truncated external platform, the texture sheet for which is visible under the front corner of the shed.  The existing loading bank, which was very much a freelance construct, I think now looks out of place so I have decided to extend the exterior platform of the kit as below.

 

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The crane will be recycled from the old bank and I need to modify the ground cover but I am quite pleased with the look of this - more like a proper "installation".

 

Regards,

Brian.

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2 hours ago, AireValley1962 said:

That does look quite 'in place' Brian.

 

Cheers,

Will

 

Thanks Will.  The Smart Models shed is quite a lot longer than the Scalescenes shed and I think it sits well with the layout, if also a bit of a view blocker.  How is the lock down going in Canada?  It is starting to ease a touch in England if not quite the whole of the UK.

Keep well mate.

 

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Brian.

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More progress thanks to a card delivery earlier.  The last main wall element was completed so all of the walls and the interior goods platform have been glued together as below (in the previous pics the various walls were propping each other up!).

 

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And a pic with the exterior ramp and platform added but not glued to the structure due to the length of the resulting combo.

 

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Main and store roofs and a chimney pot to be added to complete.

 

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Brian.

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23 hours ago, Brian D said:

How is the lock down going in Canada?  It is starting to ease a touch in England if not quite the whole of the UK.

Keep well mate.

 

Regards,

Brian.

 

Thanks for asking Brian! 

 

Lockdown wasn't quite as severe in Canada as I think it was in many other countries. With a general idea that while necessary at the beginning, the lockdown has now served its purpose, and some think has overrun its bounds, many folks are fed up with it all. 

 

But I don't want to get too 'political'  - there's enough of that 'virus' going around - so I'll just say I think most people are looking forward to getting back to normal. 

 

Anyway, hope you and your family keep well!

 

Cheers,

Will

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The new goods shed is now complete...

 

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...as is the ramp/loading bank (complete with recycled crane).

 

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So, some granite sets have been put down (Scalescenes texture sheet glued directly to the base board)...

 

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...and the new "complex" put in place (please ignore the sub layout clutter - note to self - "must have a tidy up").

 

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The last photo is a bit cruel as it shows up a bit of a gap under the office stairs and indeed the whole office.  This will be recctified in due course.

 

I'm quite impressed with the way the kit has gone together.  So much so in fact that I am having a serious look at the Smart Models Low Gates Signal box which, being a 1950s style box is more in keeping with the colour light signalling on the layout.  Food for thought.

 

Regards,

Brian.

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I have been ruminating over a possible accompanying "modern" signal box in line with the colour light signalling scheme on the layout.  My layout history covering this issue would be that, despite the Deneside Branch being remote from the ECML, the branch was chosen by the North Eastern Region management as a pilot scheme for a colour light re-signalling project so "new" signal box would also be required as part of the project.

 

Right, that's the back story out of the way, now, what to build?  Smart Models do two modern boxes, the Low Gates box (already mentioned in a previous post) and another rather bland looking generic type.  I favour the Low Gates box kit because it is a proper North Eastern Region example but it is not high enough, I think, to give the (model) signalman a clear view around the curves, that's why I chose to model the high South Gosforth style box.  This is the standard Low Gates kit...

 

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...which I've said I think is too low as regards site lines for the signal staff.  But, I've had a thought that I could kit bash it and make it a storey height taller, a bit like this.

 

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If I proceed with this then I'll likely use Scalescenes textures for the brickwork but I should be able to use some textures from the kit, especially the windows.

 

Regards,

Brian.

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