Summer_Saturday Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Whatever happened to all of the new class 47's that we were meant to be seeing in september? Its all gone quiet again. Does anyone know if Heljan have scrapped the idea? Not sure myself but the best people to contact are Howes of Oxford; they are the UK agent for Heljan. Their contact details can be found here: http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/Railways/contact.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47707 Holyrood Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Whatever happened to all of the new class 47's that we were meant to be seeing in september? Its all gone quiet again. Does anyone know if Heljan have scrapped the idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0O00 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Product numbers 4746 and 4747, unnumbered, livery to be confirmed - according to Hattons... no date though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I was chatting to Howes yesterday afternoon over a related matter (missing buffers for my 47 which are shown as 'out of stock on the Howes website - as are most 47 spares incidentally) and was told that Heljan aren't planning a batch of 47s at the moment. It seems that we only get spares when a new 47 is released. BTW, can anyone help me out - I've got 4 spare buffer beams (with cowls) but no buffers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I was chatting to Howes yesterday afternoon over a related matter (missing buffers for my 47 which are shown as 'out of stock on the Howes website - as are most 47 spares incidentally) and was told that Heljan aren't planning a batch of 47s at the moment. It seems that we only get spares when a new 47 is released. BTW, can anyone help me out - I've got 4 spare buffer beams (with cowls) but no buffers? I have a fair few Heljan spares, including Buffers, are you after ovals or round ones as have limited stock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Round ones if you would be so kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43087 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Ive contacted Heljan this week about a ltd edition Heljan 47 purchase that was due in august, there reply was - it will be due in a few weeks time, im in no rush for it as im trying to put money together for warley but i dont think anyone has an idea when its coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I was chatting to Howes yesterday afternoon over a related matter ......... and was told that Heljan aren't planning a batch of 47s at the moment. Ah - had an email from rails today - apparently the Colas ones are not too far off ?1? My link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Heljan Colas 47s now on rails of sheffield web site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanB47306 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 They were placed in the cabinet whilst I was in store this morning. I have to say I much prefer the Vi Trains offering which arrived earlier this week. As you can see on the photo's on the Rails website, Heljan haven't even used the correct bodyshell for the prototype - on either loco. I also noted theat the bufferbeam on the model is the wrong type and to my eyes the COLAS lettering on the bodyside is not the right shape. Still, nice to have Heljan 47s back on the shelves though. Might be able to source some replacements for the warped chassis now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I hope pics on rails web site were taken under strip lights cos the yellow on side looks too green!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds r us Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I have been chasing Howes for spares this week. But the reply I got today was quite worrying "Sorry, but as Heljan heve no plans to produce other 47"s in the near future, no spares for 47"s will be produced either. Regards Howes" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Shame if true, was looking forward to the next unnumbered batch, wonder if they see the new Bachmann 47 as far better than theirs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 wonder if they see the new Bachmann 47 as far better than theirs and the vitrains 47 ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieselbob Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi I keep reading about Heljan 47's and new Liveries, Have I missed something or have they re-tooled and re-sized there class 47's. If they havn't then they will surely be thinking Bachmann & Vitrains 47's are better models. The biggest mystery of all is how they carry on selling something that is so far out of scale, and an even bigger mystery is why people keep on buying them. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The biggest mystery of all is how they carry on selling something that is so far out of scale, and an even bigger mystery is why people keep on buying them. Bob Because I can ignore the width issue and the lack of separate fans and appreciate the rest of the model as being more representative of a Class 47 than either the Bachmann or ViTrains offerings in my opinion. I am, however, modelling the late '80s which I feel the Heljan model is far more suited towards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taybridge Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Because I can ignore the width issue and the lack of separate fans and appreciate the rest of the model as being more representative of a Class 47 than either the Bachmann or ViTrains offerings in my opinion. I am, however, modelling the late '80s which I feel the Heljan model is far more suited towards. I agree, I have no problem with the Heljan 47 (or the Bachy 47 either) ... decide for yourself... real and Heljan: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The width issue is worse on some Heljan 47s because of flashing on the metal chassis sides. Rubbing this down stops the bodysides from bowing outwards. Having done that I then noticed a dumbell shape in the body which was widest to the rear of the cab doors. Removing the cab inserts stopped this so I trimmed them down in width to suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluex5 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi I keep reading about Heljan 47's and new Liveries, Have I missed something or have they re-tooled and re-sized there class 47's. If they havn't then they will surely be thinking Bachmann & Vitrains 47's are better models. The biggest mystery of all is how they carry on selling something that is so far out of scale, and an even bigger mystery is why people keep on buying them. Bob Because it's a Class 47 (which alot of people need at least one on a layout, such is the lifespan and large number built of the prototype) with a quality mechanism that offers good value for money. The run of unnumbered green and blue ones was also a stroke of genius. The fact they keep selling leads me to believe the extra girth isn't an issue to as many people as the modelling press would have you believe. Bachmann's attmept is ok but I don't like the AWD chassis and It's not as easy to customise as Heljan's effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 28, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2010 Because it's a Class 47 (which alot of people need at least one on a layout, such is the lifespan and large number built of the prototype) with a quality mechanism that offers good value for money. The run of unnumbered green and blue ones was also a stroke of genius. The fact they keep selling leads me to believe the extra girth isn't an issue to as many people as the modelling press would have you believe. Bachmann's attmept is ok but I don't like the AWD chassis and It's not as easy to customise as Heljan's effort. On the other hand I find the Bachmann ones don't require as much wheel cleaning as Heljan and tend to rail up a little more easily at the start of a session. Added to which the couplers don't droop. The comment about the tubby duffs is near the mark - I would rather run something reliable and gutsy even if it doesn't look spot on. They're still much better than I could do myself! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieselbob Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The comment about the tubby duffs is near the mark I like that name Tubby Duffs. The main problem with them that I have is that my layout is 00 which we all know is too narrow, so a tubby loco on a skinny track sticks out like a sore thumb, although I have seen one at an exhibition converted to P4 or posibly EM and it doesn't stand out so much. I have a couple of Vitrains and a Bachmann and although there are small niggles, I think that Bachmann especially may make alterations to future releases where as Heljan have had years to re-tool and havn't bothered which I find surprising, as has been mentioned it is a good looking model (apart from its tubbiness). Cheers Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer_Saturday Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Whatever happened to all of the new class 47's that we were meant to be seeing in september? Its all gone quiet again. Does anyone know if Heljan have scrapped the idea? This has just been posted on RMWeb and indicates some new unnumbered Class 47s to be released in Heljan's 2010/2011 programme: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php/topic/10622-Heljan-plans-201011/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 According to REX modeller the 47’s will be back in Q3 / Q4 this year: BR green full yellow ends. BR Green half yellow ends. BR Blue. Large logo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Hopefully large logo without black headcode box and blue with headlight!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Hopefully large logo without black headcode box and blue with headlight!! Ditto...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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