class"66" Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Ive read somewhere that theres going to be ballast stone trains at Penmenmaurwr again, and that there clearing the station siding also at Llandudno juction.. Is this true,and who wil be operating the freight traffic? cheers neil.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The sidings at Penmaenmawr are supposedly going to be used again in the new year, Freightliner still own the sidings but rumour has it Network Rail will be taking over. The carriage sidings at Llandudno are being put back into use next weekend not the sidings at Llandudno Jnc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim H Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Difficult to think of any other comparable line that's seen such a decline in freight traffic in recent years - As late as the late 80s there was quite a variety of traffic (Freightliner, chemicals, nuclear, ballast), now there's nothing at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 27, 2014 Difficult to think of any other comparable line that's seen such a decline in freight traffic in recent years - As late as the late 80s there was quite a variety of traffic (Freightliner, chemicals, nuclear, ballast), now there's nothing at all. Apart from the flasks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Difficult to think of any other comparable line that's seen such a decline in freight traffic in recent years - As late as the late 80s there was quite a variety of traffic Plymouth/Cornwall (only clay remains) (Freightliner, chemicals, nuclear, ballast), now there's nothing at all. What happened to the freightliner traffic - did it shift to road or another port etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim H Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The freightliner traffic shifted to Liverpool, I believe. Devon and Cornwall isn't quite as bad in that at least some freight still runs, though nothing like the volume of a few years back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 27, 2014 Be interesting if NR take over penmeanmawr that would open it up for access to all, might need to get a route refresh in along the coast!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 The sidings at Penmaenmawr are supposedly going to be used again in the new year, Freightliner still own the sidings but rumour has it Network Rail will be taking over. The carriage sidings at Llandudno are being put back into use next weekend not the sidings at Llandudno Jnc. Very interesting read,thanks Holland Park... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted August 29, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2014 Might the Llandudno sidings be being got ready to hold Arriva carriages once the loco hauled set starts running shuttles on the coast line next year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Not required for the Arriva train as it is a Push Pull set. The sidings will be for running round any specials that may turn up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plarailfan Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The Holyhead, Freightliner traffic, was transferred into Cawoods terminal at Ellesmere Port in the mid 1990's. After a short period of time, they moved again, this time to Seaforth docks at Liverpool ! I think Freightliner gave up with Irish traffic altogether around the sectorisation / privatisation era. (Just need a time machine to go back to the heady days of class 40's roaring along the coast hauling twenty well loaded wagons of Guinness kegs and Scunthorpe steel, coils and bars) ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim H Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Apart from the flasks When I was in the area in July, the sidings at Valley were very rusty and looked as though they hadn't been used for some time. I'd assumed the flasks were no longer running on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Valley yard has seen a number of flask trains in the last few weeks and an A4 turning most Sundays in August. Don't forget rails go rusty overnight (especially Anglesey weather) Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Hopefully the "RHTT" trains wil start again along the coast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Was up at Llandudno juction yesterday,i see there new track sidings getting layed,and fresh ballast.. also spotted EWS 66 on ballast workings.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 Spoke to frend of mine at "Freightliner" hes said that ballast trains will be starting up again in November Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The Holyhead, Freightliner traffic, was transferred into Cawoods terminal at Ellesmere Port in the mid 1990's. After a short period of time, they moved again, this time to Seaforth docks at Liverpool ! I think Freightliner gave up with Irish traffic altogether around the sectorisation / privatisation era. (Just need a time machine to go back to the heady days of class 40's roaring along the coast hauling twenty well loaded wagons of Guinness kegs and Scunthorpe steel, coils and bars) ! Irish traffic transferred to Seaforth in 1991, some of it direct from Holyhead, the rest from E/Port. RfD sold/transferred their contracts to Coastal Container Line in 1993, the idea being that RfD would simply become a haulier. CCL however promptly transferred the traffic to a fleet of Henry Forsyth artics..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Irish traffic transferred to Seaforth in 1991, some of it direct from Holyhead, the rest from E/Port. RfD sold/transferred their contracts to Coastal Container Line in 1993, the idea being that RfD would simply become a haulier. CCL however promptly transferred the traffic to a fleet of Henry Forsyth artics..... Very interesting information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Was a lot of Network rail workings at Llandudno junction last night,with heavy plant machines too.... Also I spotted three HGV"s on the A55 heading toward Llandudno with new track sections... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Was a lot of Network rail workings at Llandudno junction last night,with heavy plant machines too.... Also I spotted three HGV"s on the A55 heading toward Llandudno with new track sections... Are they still working on Llandudno sidings ? Must go and take a look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 They were on Wednesday evening,and Thursday .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 This is great news have to say the N Wales coast route has be very short of frieght works for many years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Im looking forward to 66s and 60s on ballast loads... :locomotive: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2014 this from the BBC with a very shoddy headline http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-30014563 i don't hink i'll hold my breath for that one in my lifelime!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted November 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2014 If they can do that one from Wales to Ireland, then they could do one across the Bering Strait, which is a shorter distance, albeit it's across a plate boundary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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