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Ian Hargrave

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I think you've cracked it,plus the 1960 main range DoG......do these qualify for the plaudits of new and exciting ? If you've been waiting some time for them then I suppose they do. It will be interesting to examine the weathering job on 60103.Thus far,Hornby's examples in that particular department have been singularly unexciting but then ,they are not unique in that respect e.g Heljan's efforts with the BG..

I notice that R3105 Castle 'Wellington' is listed as sold out.

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What is the difference between the two parcels coaches?

 

http://www.Hornby.com/br-mk1-parcels-coach.html?utm_campaign=Hornby_new_second_batch_210524&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=CM_hornby

 

Railroad version.

 

http://www.Hornby.com/railroad-br-mk1-parcels-coach.html?utm_campaign=Hornby_new_second_batch_210524&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=CM_hornby

 

Am just wondering what they might be given that the close resemblance in the illustration.

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What is the difference between the two parcels coaches?

 

http://www.Hornby.com/br-mk1-parcels-coach.html?utm_campaign=Hornby_new_second_batch_210524&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=CM_hornby

 

Railroad version.

 

http://www.Hornby.com/railroad-br-mk1-parcels-coach.html?utm_campaign=Hornby_new_second_batch_210524&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=CM_hornby

 

Am just wondering what they might be given that the close resemblance in the illustration.

 

Don't take too much notice of the picture as it looks like the same picture has been used to illustrate both items.  I suspect the difference will be things like metal vs. plastic wheels and buffers.   

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Don't take too much notice of the picture as it looks like the same picture has been used to illustrate both items.  I suspect the difference will be things like metal vs. plastic wheels and buffers.   

 

There wasn't much in the way of specification detailing the differences. Perhaps you will be right.

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What is the difference between the two parcels coaches?

 

http://www.Hornby.com/br-mk1-parcels-coach.html?utm_campaign=Hornby_new_second_batch_210524&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=CM_hornby

 

Railroad version.

 

http://www.Hornby.com/railroad-br-mk1-parcels-coach.html?utm_campaign=Hornby_new_second_batch_210524&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=CM_hornby

 

Am just wondering what they might be given that the close resemblance in the illustration.

5 mm, not that it matters as they are both too long for a Mk1 BG.

 

Edit -not sure what i got a 'disagree' for, see later postings regarding discrepancy between Hattons photos and Hornby website.

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E mail just received from Hattons quotes on or after 7th Nov.for the delivery of R3202 weathered 60103.As we now know,Hornby have already received a delivery.Maybe Hattons are at the back of the queue or have pre sold their first tranche and the next instalment is on its way....or maybe its arrival surprised everyone,including Hornby. Who knows? Suddenly it's raining Hornby,which is encouraging for us all,event those who expressed dark thoughts about them a month ago.Keep 'em coming....but keep 'em coming in pristine condition and not with bits missing /bodywork blemishes/d.o.a.(dead on arrival)

'QC' used to be a brand of 'British Sherry'. It has now taken on an entirely new definition. Never mind...a genuine cause for optimism..notwithstanding the blips that,sadly,seem inevitable atm.One day,they will sort it.Meanwhile it's D-I-Y QC. for some.

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E mail just received from Hattons quotes on or after 7th Nov.for the delivery of R3202 weathered 60103.As we now know,Hornby have already received a delivery.Maybe Hattons are at the back of the queue or have pre sold their first tranche and the next instalment is on its way....or maybe its arrival surprised everyone,including Hornby. Who knows? Suddenly it's raining Hornby,which is encouraging for us all,event those who expressed dark thoughts about them a month ago.Keep 'em coming....but keep 'em coming in pristine condition and not with bits missing /bodywork blemishes/d.o.a.(dead on arrival)

'QC' used to be a brand of 'British Sherry'. It has now taken on an entirely new definition. Never mind...a genuine cause for optimism..notwithstanding the blips that,sadly,seem inevitable atm.One day,they will sort it.Meanwhile it's D-I-Y QC. for some.

Hi Ian,

 

I had the same e-mail quoting on or after the 7th of November for delivery, I queried this with Hattons this morning as R3202 is shown as available to order from Margate direct, I was told that Hornby in an effort to resolve the supply situation of their models have sent approximately 60 of each model by air and the rest are on a slow boat from China, no one apparently knows how many are going to each dealership but I was assured that my pre-order would be honoured,they wouldn't say whether or not I would receive one from the first batch or the second, something to look forward to pre-christmas I think.  :imsohappy:   

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I couldn't resist it... with VAT off and free international airmail delivery, £128 for one of the last 2 R3202 weathered 1963 Flying Scotsman models from Hornby direct.

 

Partly I'm curious to see how well their direct sales go, seamless ordering and payment, and we shall have to see how good the QC is in A3 assembly.

 

By comparison I will hopefully soon receive a Bachmann Midland Compound in red, separated from train set and to be sent un-boxed, I know lots of good ways to pack things with good wrapping methods, bubble wrap, paper, cardboard and so on, but Rails of Sheffield have their photo of the model with broken brake rod and bent front lamp so I'm not over-confident.

 

For what it's worth, and mentioned in the Castle Arriving thread, my 5075 'Wellington' Castle has mild assembly misalignments about the same as the Star... but at least has 10-spoke front wheels. and was easy to turn into an attractive pic.

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/67999-lunester-lounge/?p=1601725

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I couldn't resist it... with VAT off and free international airmail delivery, £128 for one of the last 2 R3202 weathered 1963 Flying Scotsman models from Hornby direct.

 

Partly I'm curious to see how well their direct sales go, seamless ordering and payment, and we shall have to see how good the QC is in A3 assembly.

 

By comparison I will hopefully soon receive a Bachmann Midland Compound in red, separated from train set and to be sent un-boxed, I know lots of good ways to pack things with good wrapping methods, bubble wrap, paper, cardboard and so on, but Rails of Sheffield have their photo of the model with broken brake rod and bent front lamp so I'm not over-confident.

 

For what it's worth, and mentioned in the Castle Arriving thread, my 5075 'Wellington' Castle has mild assembly misalignments about the same as the Star... but at least has 10-spoke front wheels. and was easy to turn into an attractive pic.

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/67999-lunester-lounge/?p=1601725

Look forward to seeing both models when you receive them Rob, I think mine is still some way off on that slowboat from China, lol !!!!

 

Mark

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I was looking at the new LMS Fowler tank today and it seems it is a Sandakan models with and SK ref on box and also is in the old style box. Not sure if this was a late delivery of an item made earlier or if they still have contracted work still to complete. The model looks super as we would expect from Sandakan's previous models.

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I thought this BG was new tooling and Hornby said it would be the correct length unlike the old model. Are you saying it's still not right?

The BR Standard BG was built on a 57' underframe, which would equate to 228 mm over headstocks, and perhaps 16mm more (244 mm) over buffer heads in the extended position. These two seem to be about 20 mm longer than that; when looking at the lengths given on the web-site, those for the new BR Mk 1 passenger stock (64'6" long) seem to be the same as that for the 57' Full Brake. I do hope it's just a keyboard error on the web-site.

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What is the difference between the two parcels coaches?

 

http://www.Hornby.com/br-mk1-parcels-coach.html?utm_campaign=Hornby_new_second_batch_210524&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=CM_hornby

 

Railroad version.

 

http://www.Hornby.com/railroad-br-mk1-parcels-coach.html?utm_campaign=Hornby_new_second_batch_210524&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=CM_hornby

 

Am just wondering what they might be given that the close resemblance in the illustration.

 

Pictures of standard range one now available on the Hatton's website:

 

http://www.ehattons.com/69414/Hornby_R4619_BR_Maroon_Mk1_BG_full_brake_parcels_coach/StockDetail.aspx

 

Ruler indicates a length of under 25cms from buffer to buffer (the ruler appears to be slightly over to the left):

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I thought this BG was new tooling and Hornby said it would be the correct length unlike the old model. Are you saying it's still not right?

Bachmann and Replica Railways have offered model Mk.1 BGs of correct length for upwards of 15 years. Between them, they have produced all the liveries Hornby are ever likely to cover and many more besides.

 

Those of us who were bothered by overlength Hornby (or Lima) BGs have had plenty of time to replace them or avoided buying them in the first place. Anyone still running them now, presumably doesn't care one way or the other.

 

I therefore don't think it really matters if Hornby produce another Mk.1 BG at all, whatever the length!  :jester:

 

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I thought this BG was new tooling and Hornby said it would be the correct length unlike the old model. Are you saying it's still not right?

 

Pictures of standard range one now available on the Hatton's website:

 

http://www.ehattons.com/69414/Hornby_R4619_BR_Maroon_Mk1_BG_full_brake_parcels_coach/StockDetail.aspx

 

Ruler indicates a length of under 25cms from buffer to buffer (the ruler appears to be slightly over to the left):

Counting the number of sleepers in the photos, the BG is shorter than the BSK. The proportion would be about right for the BG to be 57' if the BSK is the correct length, so it looks like a typo on the Hornby website.

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