lancer1027 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 This is a very interesting project and im enjoying seeing the different ways of altering the mk1's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 This is a very interesting project and im enjoying seeing the different ways of altering the mk1's. Cheers Rob, the interior is now fully painted & the corners joins have been filled .........pics later 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer1027 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Look forward to those. I have been doing a bit on mk2 underframes. I nearly have another 4x TSO's ready for primer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) I now have 4 on the go Rob The second one is a maroon FK, this one has been widened today & I have built an interior using Lima compartments.........did maroon 1st class have blue curtains? The third one is a second hand SO/SK with scratch built plasticard sides..........I have widened this one today. Number four is not started yet, but is an already widened Lima from that box of four I got at Telford...........this will be converted to as SO/SK body using some S/H brass overlays I picked up a while ago. Edited October 3, 2015 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer1027 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not sure about the colour of the curtains whilst in maroon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) I think there are many advantages to removing the sides rather than splitting down the middle, not least being the use of the original ends.....I did consider both methods of widening them, but found side only removal by far the best option Hi Phill, I agree, that for you, yours is the best method, I already had the Peter Cowling ends so I ran with that method and as I wanted to super-detail (without going overboard) the underframes cutting out the centre section also helps in that regard. I would consider overlays for some back-dated coaches though. I will be adding some relief to the Aquitrain overlays BTW CME....I have already done this with the Blue/Grey MK1's which are fitted with 'Three Cee' overlays... That was the name that I was trying to remember - Three Cee's, how quickly we forget, its like going back to a town ten years later and finding new buildings, old ones demolished and a few new one way systems introduced, one quickly forgets how it all used to be! Thanks again Phill, keep up the good work! Kindest, CME Edited October 4, 2015 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) The BSK is looking a little more complete now, the interior has been completed.......... & Aquitrain overlays are fitted along with the roof, roof vents, bogies & foot boards (the foot boards are about to be painted in the pic) .... The next jobs will be door furniture, buffers & transfers. Two the other coaches are also progressing, but more of that later. Edited October 5, 2015 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) The BSK is looking a little more complete now, the interior has been completed.......... 20150929_112214.jpg & Aquitrain overlays are fitted along with the roof, roof vents, bogies & foot boards (the foot boards are about to be painted in the pic) .... IMG-1444040235245-V.jpg The next jobs will be door furniture, buffers & transfers. Two the other coaches are also progressing, but more of that later. Nice work Phill, looking very nice indeed, really looks the part. Do you matt down the overlay sides - as they always seem very shiney to me - or just weather them (how do they react to weathering?)? ATVB CME Edited October 5, 2015 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Nice work Phill, looking very nice indeed, really looks the part. Do you matt down the overlay sides - as they always seem very shiney to me - or just weather them (how do they react to weathering?)? ATVB CME Yes the will be weathered & given a coat of matt varnish just like these http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_07_2015/post-6992-0-98801700-1436268071.jpg blue/grey Three Cee Lima's further back in this thread Edited October 5, 2015 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Overlay coach number 2 is now also fully butchered.....as you can see the Lima windows do not correspond with the replacement sides on this one The interior has also been cobbled together from various bits of Lima interior bits (6 seperate parts in total). This time I am using the original 'Three Cee's' overlay , which is trial fitted in the pic below.......... Edited October 5, 2015 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer1027 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hi Phill, This is very interesting. The end results look amazing. Those three cee overlays look very nice once fitted. What glue did you use to attach the overlays ?. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hi Phill, This is very interesting. The end results look amazing. Those three cee overlays look very nice once fitted. What glue did you use to attach the overlays ?. Rob Thanks Rob, the overlays I have used were applied with double-sided tape......I supose you could also glue them, but there is the risk of some sort of reaction with some glues, so I have 'stuck' with the double sided tape as it has always worked fine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Yes the will be weathered & given a coat of matt varnish just like these http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_07_2015/post-6992-0-98801700-1436268071.jpg blue/grey Three Cee Lima's further back in this thread Hi Phill, Lovely work - amazing results too! Do you mask the windows so as to keep the shine on them? Thanks Rob, the overlays I have used were applied with double-sided tape......I supose you could also glue them, but there is the risk of some sort of reaction with some glues, so I have 'stuck' with the double sided tape as it has always worked fine I was wondering that - I have an old S/H Lima with film sides and they have been glued on (Evo-stick) and its done for them! I am guessing that you use a robust exterior quality SA tape - any preferred brand? How robust are the film overlays in use? BTW I have sent you a PM too. Really enjoying looking at your coaches Phill, I may have a go with some like that to run with my Noble 'Hall' ATVB CME Edited October 6, 2015 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hi Phill, Lovely work - amazing results too! Do you mask the windows so as to keep the shine on them? I was wondering that - I have an old S/H Lima with film sides and they have been glued on (Evo-stick) and its done for them! I am guessing that you use a robust exterior quality SA tape - any preferred brand? How robust are the film overlays in use? BTW I have sent you a PM too. Really enjoying looking at your coaches Phill, I may have a go with some like that to run with my Noble 'Hall' ATVB CME So did the Evo-Stick contact edhesive damage them?......I would have guessed that Evo-Stick would have been OK? The double sided tape is High Tack type I got from a printers that I used to work at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer1027 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 i might see if i can get a bargain Lima mk1 and try these three cee sides. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosspeacock Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Looking good Phill. Cutting the sides off is definitely the best option.. Although I'd never thought about cutting them off square down the coach end. My method seems more complicated now I've seen how you have done it.. Ross.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 So did the Evo-Stick contact edhesive damage them?......I would have guessed that Evo-Stick would have been OK? The double sided tape is High Tack type I got from a printers that I used to work at Yes Phill, looks like to solvent in Evo-Stick played them up - yet as they were s/h I cant be sure. My preferred contact adhesive is UHU Solvent Free (non stringy) and it works a treat - outdoors in certain applications too! I catch your drift. Some cheap DS tapes are awful now, but as with everything these days price vs quality seems very hard to gauge, until the product has been used and its too late. Looking good Phill. Cutting the sides off is definitely the best option.. Although I'd never thought about cutting them off square down the coach end. My method seems more complicated now I've seen how you have done it.. Ross.. I agree Ross, I like the way that Phill seems to see the easiest route - my dad is pretty good at that - I have to explore all of the options before getting it how I want it. Mind you, each of us had slightly different wants and needs tied up in our Lima coaches so we have chosen the right method for each of us. BODGERS UNITED EH :mosking: Really inspired by Phills work though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 TBH I'm making it up as I go along, for coach 2 I cut the sides off in profile....... as these are 'layout' coaches I will retain a lot of the Lima details & this method is easier for me hide the joins without removing detail Here's a quick peek at number 3 which was bought with rather nice scratch built sides, but not widened.......I have removed the sides & widened this one too..... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer1027 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Are these to be part of a rake you already have or is it the start of a new rake ? Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Are these to be part of a rake you already have or is it the start of a new rake ? Rob No Rob these are a new rake which will run as a complete maroon rake or mixed with blue/greys when the line is running period (1969/70 running mainly Warships,Westerns, Hymeks & North British).......the other entirely blue era is around 1974/75 (running mainly Peaks, Brush 4's, Cromptons & Rats + the end of the Hymeks & Westerns) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Very nice Phill, a bit of back dating going on then. Although still plentiful Lima coaches seem to be costly in some quarters these days (namely Ebay), can they still be found at shows etc (ie under the table finds)? Luckily I have enough for now.. ATVB CME 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Very nice Phill, a bit of back dating going on then. Although still plentiful Lima coaches seem to be costly in some quarters these days (namely Ebay), can they still be found at shows etc (ie under the table finds)? Luckily I have enough for now.. ATVB CME Yes, they can still be had reasonably cheaply at shows 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40126 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Very nice Phill, a bit of back dating going on then. Although still plentiful Lima coaches seem to be costly in some quarters these days (namely Ebay), can they still be found at shows etc (ie under the table finds)? Luckily I have enough for now.. ATVB CME Hi CME, Yes, Lima's still can be found, Me & Rob (Lancer) got a box from Telford, with 2 Lima coaches & 6 Big Big Mk11's, oh & a Harry Potter coach for £50 !!!. Just sold the HP coach on EBay for £30. We were very lucky. Phill picked some Lima's too at Telford. Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 The second maroon MK1 has had it's overlays attached using some double sided tape I obtained from ebay.... & an Easybuild roof trimmed to size......... I also added white metal roof vents & painted, the my cobbled together interior has also been painted fully into first class colours & corridor connections & buffers have been added to both coaches (buffers not shown in the pics) ....The two new maroon MK1's just need door furniture, transfers & weathering now. This brings the total rake of maroon coaches to 5 & 1 MTH BG..... These coaches will be run as a complete rake of maroon stock or mixed in with blue/grey stock for running in the early period of my layout. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 D1054 Western Governor was seen last week heading towards Withercombe with a parcels working ....... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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