slilley Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Noodle Books has just announced the publication in April 2015 on the three Southern Railway booster locomotives CC1 CC2 and 20003. This is the first time there has been such a comprehensive look at these locomotives. We have drawn on archive material at the National Archives at Kew, the NRM, and the rail union ASLEF amongst others, to piece together the story of these unique locomotives. Over 100 pages with illustrations and diagrams. For full details please follow the link below http://www.noodlebooks.co.uk/catalogue2014/index.html#10 Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Link doesn't work for me. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2014 Same here (part of the link is missing!) Try this: http://www.noodlebooks.co.uk/catalogue2014-15/index.html#10 Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Just to keep everyone up to date with progress. On Friday I had the proofs from the publishers of the first 2 chapters. Currently going through them line by line to make sure all is ok and no gremlins have crept in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Just to bring everyone up to date, we have had a second set of proofs back from the publisher and reviewed those. A few glitches to be ironed out that we probably didn't get first time around. That's all back with the publisher now and we are I believe on course for publication in late March, fingers crossed. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Book is now published, it was on sale on Saturday at the Alexandra Palace show. Now being distributed to the book trade. Between Saturday and Tuesday 182 copies were sold and advance orders by the trade are very healthy also, snap up yours whilst you can!! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 16, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2015 Got mine today, thanks! Looks like it is crammed with interesting information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Hope those of you that have bought the book are or have enjoyed it. At one point on Wednesday it was at number 4 in the Amazon railway Book chart so someone has bought it. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I must have been one of the first to get a copy, certainly one of the '182', having purchased at Ally Pally. A worthwhile book about a rather special and unique class of loco. As a footnote I did publish an article about the 'boosters' in DEMU UPDate magazine issue #66, although obviously the book rather trumps it with more in depth info, plenty of photographs, and contains a wealth of information. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Grahame It sounds like you like it, which is great. The first feedback I have seen so thank you for the comments. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm liking it too, Simon. Some photos I hadn't seen before, and electrical technical information which was presented in a manner in which this mechanical engineer could understand! One question though - the blue that 2 was painted in - was that a shade like that of the later electric blue? Think EM2.....? The arguments regarding single manning were interesting, that went on for a while longer! Now we just need the models.....plenty livery variation possible, they should be a good seller #cough# crowdfunding # Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 Neil The shade of blue for S CC2 was described in documents as ultramarine blue. I am not sure it was the same colour as used later on by BR on electric locomotives. As for the single manning issue, you are dead right it did go on for a lot longer than the 1957 agreement, but those discussions took place well after these three locos had been withdrawn so alas outside the scope of the book. Glad you like it. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 26, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 26, 2015 Thanks Simon. A good read, I have enjoyed it, I have a 'thing' about electric locomotives (despite really being a steam man) as I was born and grew up very close to the Harton Colliery system in South Shields. Probably the first locomotives I saw come to think of it! A more recent change of direction in modelling from USA to Southern Region 3rd rail has been the long term result. I 'need' booster loco! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Picked up a copy in Ian Allen in Birmingham the other day - a very interesting read , I'd be pleased to see similar volumes on classes 71 and 74 in future (the 73s have been well covered previously). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Supaned & New Haven Neil Many thanks for your feedback, glad you like the book. As for the possibility of something on the 71s and 74s watch this space. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 A superb book read cover to cover. Now trying to find oo gauge examples. Atb Nik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted November 7, 2015 Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2015 A superb book read cover to cover. Now trying to find oo gauge examples. Atb Nik See the current issue of BRM where I've built the Ajay models resin kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Just saw this thread, having bought the book several months ago. Very good book, especially the technical appendix at the back, which explains very clearly how the control system worked - too many enthusiast books "turn a blind eye" to even lightly technical stuff. Personally, I think the detail, as opposed to general thrust, of the material about single-manning might have worked better as an appendix too, but that is very much a personal thing. Anyway, thank you to author and publisher. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 See the current issue of BRM where I've built the Ajay models resin kit. Thanks I've just bought BRM to investigate, as I had only found the Radley models version. Atb Nik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I thought the Ajay model was the one that Radley models sell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Just finished the article in BRM looks like it may be a suitable project for this absolute beginner. Has anyone else built one? All advice gratefully received. Thanks Nik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2015 All the previously printed web links lead to nowhere. Do you have an ISBN number, title and author name? A quick search on Noodle Books got this: http://www.crecy.co.uk/southern-way-special-issue-no-11 Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 Just saw this thread, having bought the book several months ago. Very good book, especially the technical appendix at the back, which explains very clearly how the control system worked - too many enthusiast books "turn a blind eye" to even lightly technical stuff. Personally, I think the detail, as opposed to general thrust, of the material about single-manning might have worked better as an appendix too, but that is very much a personal thing. Anyway, thank you to author and publisher. Kevin Kevin Thanks for the feedback. I can understand where you are coming from, but we took the view that the single-manning issue was bound up in their operation and so was probably best managed as part of the general narrative of the book. My thanks to ASLEF who made the minutes of the Executive Council meetings available to me, so enabling for the first time a full account of this issue to be written. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Simon I hadn't cottoned-on that it was one of the authors who had started this thread! Many thanks for a very good addition to the bookshelf. My own interest in electric and internal combustion motive power usually expires some time around the 1930s, but the control arrangement on the "boosters" was a bit different, so I went for this one. I remember the booster set at Strawberry Hill, and when I was involved with some testing work there, I picked-up an excellent set of c1900 electrical text books from a bookshop in a wooden-hut opposite the station one lunchtime - they are on the shelf near your book, so a circle is closed. Kevin PS: on the strength of your book, I will be using the "boosters" as a case-study in poor systems-design in future. Not poor locomotive design, because at that level they were good, but when looked at from a broader system perspective, (people, processes, and equipment) definitely not a success, what with sidings too short for the trains they could pull, and a rumbling argument that prevented full advantage being taken of their efficiency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Simon I hadn't cottoned-on that it was one of the authors who had started this thread! Many thanks for a very good addition to the bookshelf. My own interest in electric and internal combustion motive power usually expires some time around the 1930s, but the control arrangement on the "boosters" was a bit different, so I went for this one. I remember the booster set at Strawberry Hill, and when I was involved with some testing work there, I picked-up an excellent set of c1900 electrical text books from a bookshop in a wooden-hut opposite the station one lunchtime - they are on the shelf near your book, so a circle is closed. Kevin PS: on the strength of your book, I will be using the "boosters" as a case-study in poor systems-design in future. Not poor locomotive design, because at that level they were good, but when looked at from a broader system perspective, (people, processes, and equipment) definitely not a success, what with sidings too short for the trains they could pull, and a rumbling argument that prevented full advantage being taken of their efficiency. Kevin Thank you for the posting, apologies for my delay in responding. So glad you have found the book of interest. I knew very little about them when we started the research but that's much different now. As a follow up I am looking at doing a similar volume on the 71s and 74s. All sorts of information is falling out of the National Archives about those two classes already. Happy New Year to all Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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