RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted April 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2018 The traction much as expected from the heavy construction. Have I missed seeing a loco weight figure in this thread, or are we still waiting for some kind owner to put it on the scales? Easily missed! Post #580 has details of loco, loco+tender, tender (592g for loco+tender) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I have forgiven Heljan... what a lovely model! Runs sweetly too. Hardly had a to a thing to it, virtually straight from the box. 4706_47XX_GWR_portrait40_1abcd_r1200.jpg please note, width of front wheels edited, also driving axle centres blackened, otherwise fairly close to the truth. Why edit it at all? People (like me) would actually like to see what they truly look like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 It looks to be a very nice model, but goodness knows why Heljan did not do what Hornby did with their support struts. I personally would change the pony wheels...The boss is too large. Hornby make a neat 3' 2" GWR wheel if it is available (Peters Spares?) The driving wheel spokes are not flared into the hubs either... and as mentioned many times by others the superheater? bulge on the boiler-smokebox join area is too small and the lance on the smokebox front is too small and the proportions of the smokebox door and front is a bit wrong and the number plate is too small and the shed plate too big... but to me it looks absolutely lovely. Regardless. To be honest I find the abilities of many railway modellers, and I use the word 'modellers' quite loosely, to do little more than find fault in models quite off-putting Why edit it at all? People (like me) would actually like to see what they truly look like. Can you not look at Rails photos for such things? My editing is simply to make what is for me and I hope some others a picture of a model made to resemble somewhat the the kind of thing I might have seen many years ago, like this... which I know is not to every modeller's taste, but I enjoy making pictures. pictures edited Will cease putting further edited pics on RMweb. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2018 Rob, The subtle changes to the smoke box door plates in the bottom photo make a huge difference to the appearance and character in my opinion - spotted them straight away. Easily achieved in real life too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Please don’t stop the pics Rob. I for one enjoy seeing. There is a broad church of like, dislikes and interests on here but that’s what makes RMWeb so varied and class leading in the forum world. If someone doesn’t like something it’s easy to just move along to the next. I for one have no interest in modern image models and I pass over the subjects but I respect those that do. Carry on Rob, you’ve done a great job rebuilding your 47xx and now deserve to show in its finery, with or without the faults. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Why edit it at all? People (like me) would actually like to see what they truly look like. Well done. Your opinion has persuaded Rob to stop posting his pics. Personally I enjoy his excellent edited images which, in my view, is another form of modelling. It’s such a shame when one rogue view can spoil the enjoyment of others. Rob had already posted unedited views and, as others say, no-one is forcing you to look at these images. People (like me) hope Rob reconsider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 Will cease putting further edited pics on RMweb. Please do continue to put up edited pictures Rob. I certainly enjoy looking at them. We're open minded on here, at least l like to think that we are. To me, criticism of people's artistic work is not warranted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 Why edit it at all? People (like me) would actually like to see what they truly look like. Hattons etc will have a plethora of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 Rob why don't you do a before and after then every one will be happy Simples 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2018 I'm with the others, please continue to post your edited pictures. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash St Plug Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Keep putting the pics up Rob. They are wonderful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Will cease putting further edited pics on RMweb. NOOOO !! ( just change the colour on that unfitted van to weathered bauxite ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 The driving wheel spokes are not flared into the hubs either... and as mentioned many times by others the superheater? bulge on the boiler-smokebox join area is too small and the lance on the smokebox front is too small and the proportions of the smokebox door and front is a bit wrong and the number plate is too small and the shed plate too big... but to me it looks absolutely lovely. Regardless. To be honest I find the abilities of many railway modellers, and I use the word 'modellers' quite loosely, to do little more than find fault in models quite off-putting Can you not look at Rails photos for such things? My editing is simply to make what is for me and I hope some others a picture of a model made to resemble somewhat the the kind of thing I might have seen many years ago, like this... which I know is not to every modeller's taste, but I enjoy making pictures. 4706_47XX_BR_country_3abcde_r1200.jpg 4706_47XX_portrait10_2abcdef_r1200.jpg pictures edited Will cease putting further edited pics on RMweb. Please don’t Rob. Your pictures are a joy to behold, and if anyone is confused by them then so be it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 We've been here before Rob haven't we ? There will always be those who have views opposed to yours,especially on an open forum like RMWeb.That's the nature of the human condition.We are all individuals and some perhaps are a little more contrary than others. Your images have consistently brightened many a dreary morning for me for a good many years now and ,as others have said,please carry on and don't be deterred by one post and a few supporting icons.This is what you do and you are good at it.Most of us recognise this and appreciate your posts,I'm sure.If you feel a bit sore and sensitive,it's naturally understandable.Nobody likes a dash of cold water thrown their way. Just chalk it up to experience.Your best response ? Carry on just the way you have been doing.Remember that many works of art have been fiercely condemned to the extent that they have on occasion been vandalised.They survive.So will you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Why edit it at all? People (like me) would actually like to see what they truly look like. As has already been said, most retailers will have pictures of these ‘as they come’, so why express such a negative attitude to someone’s work? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted April 18, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2018 I completely agree. I follow Robs Facebook page that he posts all his images to and it is a great page to just browse for a while. Fantastically done and some really bring back the feel of steam in its heyday. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 I like the edited & colourised pictures; They invoke a sense of imagination. Carry on Rob. Some people get out of the wrong side of bed in the morning. Cheers, Ian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 ROB Please continue to post your pictures on here, do not let one negative comment put you off, there are retailers websites with photos of the actual model should any one wish to look!! Best Wishes Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7007GreatWestern Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) . Edited May 2, 2018 by 7007GreatWestern 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 The driving wheel spokes are not flared into the hubs either... and as mentioned many times by others the superheater? bulge on the boiler-smokebox join area is too small and the lance on the smokebox front is too small and the proportions of the smokebox door and front is a bit wrong and the number plate is too small and the shed plate too big... but to me it looks absolutely lovely. Regardless. To be honest I find the abilities of many railway modellers, and I use the word 'modellers' quite loosely, to do little more than find fault in models quite off-putting Can you not look at Rails photos for such things? My editing is simply to make what is for me and I hope some others a picture of a model made to resemble somewhat the the kind of thing I might have seen many years ago, like this... which I know is not to every modeller's taste, but I enjoy making pictures. 4706_47XX_BR_country_3abcde_r1200.jpg 4706_47XX_portrait10_2abcdef_r1200.jpg pictures edited Will cease putting further edited pics on RMweb. C'mon Kiwi. ignore these negative plonkers............I love your stuff, keep doing it, wish I had the talent, The life your images contain reflect what was, I know I was there some 60 years ago. Rgds,,,,,Mike Thicken your skin buddy ar@holes should not win!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 My one & only observation across the last 5-odd pages of postings, is the grey van in the rake of vans. Non-fitted? Just an observation, mind.... Cheers, Ian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 My one & only observation across the last 5-odd pages of postings, is the grey van in the rake of vans. Non-fitted? Just an observation, mind.... Cheers, Ian. Could be an LMS van that hasn't been repainted yet. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 Could be an LMS van that hasn't been repainted yet. Jason Blown the photo up reveals it a Southern van judging by the roof line and planking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SJR Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2018 Please keep the photos coming Rob, I really appreciate your efforts. Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) The driving wheel spokes are not flared into the hubs either... and as mentioned many times by others the superheater? bulge on the boiler-smokebox join area is too small and the lance on the smokebox front is too small and the proportions of the smokebox door and front is a bit wrong and the number plate is too small and the shed plate too big.Hi Rob, PLEASE don’t see this as a dig - it looks like you are asking a question here so here we go. The bulge on the side of the smokebox / boiler join is a cover for two oil pipes that go from the hydrostatic displacement lubricator in the cab to the live steam bits in the smokebox. To the regulator and down through the steam supply to the valves and cylinders. The two pipes come up from under the cladding and into the smokebox via two shut off valves and a pair of 90 degree elbows. That’s all it is. I hope this helps! Also, if producing and posting the pictures make you and others happy then that’s all we need to know - keep up the good work sir! All the best, Castle As an aside - I just don’t know where this superheater cover thing started but it’s quite a common misunderstanding and if a lot of people have repeted the mistake it becomes sort of pervasive. If that person who thought it up were to see the superheater in our Castle, the header of which can JUST be picked up by two people and goes across almost the full diameter of the boiler front tube plate, bolted to this are the 14 superheater elements which go over two thirds the length of the barrel. It just doesn’t fit under the little cover! Edited April 18, 2018 by Castle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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