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I am starting a post on my layout as friends back in the UK wanted to see its progress and i am finding without a club i need a sounding board for my ideas and problems and RMweb is a great place to do this.

 

My layout is set on the GCR London extension and is mainly sratchbuilt for the buildings and the stock is mostly kit built.

It could not be done without the help in the UK before it came out to the States of three great friends, Andy Bell, Clive Mortimore and The now sadly deceased John Cluro.

 

This post is short just to get it up and running there will be photos to follow.

I look for and welcome any constructive critisism.

 

Richard

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My first question is how do you get photos in here from a camera? The only way i can make them appear is to take the photos then screen shot and then pasted into word before being copied across. A most labourious process. then the system will not let them be uploaded.

Help

Richard

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To post photos first make sure the size of the file is less than 1Mb.

 

They must be saved as JPEGs

 

Then when you want to post go to "Reply with attachments" (or use "Reply to this topic" at the top of the page), then you can easily upload them.

 

David

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photo worked i will try here for some more

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I like all buildings to have an interior, this is the signal box

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This is a start i hope to have more once i can resize the pictures from my newer camera so that i can put up shots from the last 4 years

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some much later pics showing how the bridge has been filled out and the road surfaced. I was wondering what street furniture there was in 1910 to bring it to life? And anyone who says a bus, especially double decker,......... What i am looking for is signs, road markings or bollards etc.

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I have also tried to get things right on the inside, including this fogman's hut which has all the internal bracing. Not that it will be seen as it will be tipped up.

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Note to how the signal box has been finished too.

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Half the ballasting has been done but i find everything else more interesting to do.

 

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Hello Richard, this looks like a very interesting layout to follow.

 

Your question about station furniture in 1910 is interesting. It led me to look at various street scenes from the Edwardian period. I was surprised at how uncluttered many of the streets seemed in photos.

 

In this video, at ca. 1:11, there are some street adverts on wheels (I assume that's what it is!) and at ca 1:20 a group of bollards can be seen, if you're looking for a prototype. But not much else. You've already got a .letter box, so apart from that, maybe not much else is needed?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQV1_B63LTM#t=16

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I am starting a post on my layout as friends back in the UK wanted to see its progress and i am finding without a club i need a sounding board for my ideas and problems and RMweb is a great place to do this.

 

My layout is set on the GCR London extension and is mainly sratchbuilt for the buildings and the stock is mostly kit built.

It could not be done without the help in the UK before it came out to the States of three great friends, Andy Bell, Clive Mortimore and The now sadly deceased John Cluro.

 

This post is short just to get it up and running there will be photos to follow.

I look for and welcome any constructive critisism.

 

Richard

I am innocent M'Lord. I stood there with me cuppa tea in me hand saying "You don't want to do it like that." :nono:

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first photo from the early stage of building, it is of the scratchbuilt station.

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Nice Richard,

There can be little doubt where the road overbridge stems from,,, I also particularly like your signal box innards,,,

Your obviously going to have great fun painting all your loco's in 1910 livery!!!!!

Please keep the progress pictures coming.

 

SAD :sadclear:  

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Thank you for the kind comments and video advic on the street scene.

Clive do not play down your help on two fronts,

firstly it is the union rule with British workmen that one must be stood drinking tea at all times

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secondly without you there would be no posts on this thread.

Richard

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I thought i would include some locos and stock in a drip feed as i resize old photos and build new stock. First up some locos.

I have to explain that i intend to run in 4 era from pre grouping, grouping, BR and preservation. I also have a thing for proposed locos two of which appear here.

 

First up the crosti standard 5 which would have been the next batch built. It is more than an extra smokebox door as the boiler taper ges the other way to fit the chimney on the side, it is a DJH top with a Bachmann chasis and a tender from elsewhere. It has left bits to do the standard 2-8-0. The standard 2-8-2 is already done, pics of that later.

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Also proposed a conversion of the R1 into a steam Diesel compressed air hybid, it is a kit i drew up myself and had etched. I have offered it for publication but maybe it is too specialist(?)

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Then a J39 from a Jamison kit which represents a loco on a special in 1937. Tony Wright said "If you can build that you can build anything" which is not quite true i am swearing my way through building a GCR steamrailmotor all done bar roof and motor bogie which is a double swear to make.

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Finally an L1 in original GCR condition lining was fun, but have chickened out of the red lines on the boiler bands, the passenger livery on the B2 was more complicated, pics to follow. This was a Dean sidings kit with jinty chasis reversed and weight cut off so the boiler could be completed at the bottom.

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I  got to see Richard's layout last week in person and was blown away by the detail. The buildings, in particular, are to Pendon standards. It's also great to have a British modeler only 25 minutes away. :)

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some ofthe latest shots showing some of my GCR stock in the station and shunting in the exchange sidings

first up the stock glimpsed through the station

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Then up to the loco end ready to depart with my B5 for the south.

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The train passes the signal box

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Can't decide if i prefer this one?

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Heading off down past the exchange sidings

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Passing the waiting freight train

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It is mostly kit built, with the heavily modified Hornby wagon, and a scratch built bolster wagon important for moving the steel from Sheffield.

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I hope this hints at what i hope to achieve once it is finished

I am open to advice on things that could be added in to improve the realism of the scene.

Richard

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With a name like Dettingen, would it be too much to hope for some period Swiss stock running through?

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If you bring it to America, i will happily run it through, the name did come out of the German station sets that i think Kibri did when i was a kid in the seventies, as my father and i wanted a British station it was the most English sounding of the names offered, all my layout attempts since have been called Dettingen, though thi is my first, (last?) attempt at something serious. It will be a slow build as i am trying to give everything maximum detail. A build it once and build it right, hence my openness to issues or improvements being pointed out, in order to get it so itlooks right.

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some ofthe latest shots showing some of my GCR stock in the station and shunting in the exchange sidings

first up the stock glimpsed through the station

 

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Then up to the loco end ready to depart with my B5 for the south.

I hope this hints at what i hope to achieve once it is finished

I am open to advice on things that could be added in to improve the realism of the scene.

Richard

Hi Richard

 

I have just seen the people on the station seat. Had I seen this before you left for the colonies I would have altered the authorities and had you stopped by airport security.  They are waving their feet in the air. Take a file to the legs of the seat or the bottoms of the figures (or a bit of both) so that have their feet on the platform.

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it would ruin the young boys fun, he is passing the time by swinging his feet back and forth and he has encouraged his father and mother to join in with him. They were very indulgent parents and quite progressive for the time. It has mearly captured a moment in time with an early colour photograph.

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Such rowdy behaviour would not be tolerated and they would be removed from the station, just as a pupil would be sent out of a class room for doing the same. Even if they were waving their tickets to Bow Locks at the station master.

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i was not aware of that as i am too young to remember it, but i will bow to your greater age, and wisdom in these matters as you were around to experiance such stern treatment by the station master yourself c.1920.

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some ofthe latest shots showing some of my GCR stock in the station and shunting in the exchange sidings

 

Great scenes, Richard. Despite the obvious splendour of the passenger service, I especially like the goods train.  I'm looking for one or two GCR wagons myself that were around in the early 1900s. Anything you can recommend?

 

PS: My mother has had a life-long love for benches that are a little too high. She claims it preserves the child within to sit on one and swing your legs. She is now a sprightly 81 year old who looks and acts 20 years younger, which I think proves her point!

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The track work looks really good.

Gordon A

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I was just about to post a similar comment myself. The track looks hand built, did you make it yourself Richard? 

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The track is not handbuilt i am afraid. It is SMP flexitrack which makes it Bulhead. This is right in the main for the GCR period, (I think) but would have been mostly changed over to flat bottom later, and the points are Marcway, with a slight introduction of the soldering iron to tweek a V or two to ensure the best running. It then has the correct size and spacing of the sleepers which you do not get from the peco alternative.

 

Apart fron building from scratch which is fun and simple with GCR wagons because they liked solid simple wagons which can be measured off in the Tatlow book, on LNER wagons volume 4, there are suppliers David Geen does a couple, falcon brassworks does some and the Great Central Society does a couple. However, the best one stop shop is Mousa Models run by Bill Bedford, a great choice of wagons and they go together so well with by far the simplist compensation for their chassis. I can not rate his wagons highly enough.

 

And there you go Clive The Society Of Leg Swingers grows and shows how accurate my figures are.

 

More photos to follow this evening, (it is only lunch time here), i am trying to find pictures of my Green engines to show that the whole world is not black. There will also be a GCR platelayers hut but its painting has been put on hold as my son has persuaded me to scratch build an engine for him. He is 4 and it will be pink! Any guesses?

Richard

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