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I could not agree more. But I fear pre-grouping railways are a specialised taste, like Laphroaig Whisky, and will never be embraced by the mass market. We also have a large cohort of modellers coming through who simply want to open boxes, and the manufacturers will never produce a comprehensive range of RTR pre-group locos and rolling stock. It's a pity, because much of it was still running around in the 1950s, and even the 1960s, in a different livery. Some people seem to think the that only coaches BR used were Mark 1s.

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The obvious ones here would be matchboard stock of the GCR which would look great here and lasted well into the BR era, they would go with th D11, J11 and the london extension station buildings, but have yet to appear. You have almost the same issue with LNER days with lack of catering stock etc. I for one am happy to keep on making them.

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Yes John would have. The garrett is an impressive machine though it is floppy before going on the track so handling it was interesting. I did like the lighs which lit up when moving. Thanks Thom for bringing them. They did not run on the GC as far as i know but they did cross over it. As for Hogwarts castle, it is on a diversionary route as there was engineering work on the ECML. Prototypically definately happened.

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The latest building on the layout.

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In fairness it was built by my 4 year old son who insisted it was time he built buildings like Dad, it is his first scratch build and he only had the off cuts box to work from and i was not giving him a scalpel.

He thinks it looks good here and it should now be glued down

i told him we should see if it looks best there before we glue it down.

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The latest building on the layout.

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In fairness it was built by my 4 year old son who insisted it was time he built buildings like Dad, it is his first scratch build and he only had the off cuts box to work from and i was not giving him a scalpel.

He thinks it looks good here and it should now be glued down

i told him we should see if it looks best there before we glue it down.

 

How much help did he get?  All those sides look square which is better than some adults.  Defiately to be glued down, if only with Copydex or the equivalent.  It will make him feel brilliant and will come up when he, or you, gets fed up with it being there.

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Depending on exactly where Dettingen is supposed to be, GWR locos and stock are fine. It's just that circa 1912, their locos were green and the coaches red. LSWR passenger stock also ran over the GC between Woodford and wherever the junction with the NER was - brain temporarily frozen - certainly north of Sheffield. And indeed L&Y, North Eastern and North British coaches appeared too on the London extension. Probably others too. (Only the L&Y ones would normally go south of Woodford, forming part of the Bradford-Marylebone trains.)

 

As an aside, I have seen a GC era photo of a train at Chorlton Junction, Manchester, with a North Eastern coach at the front. I'm sure there is an explanation, but I can't think what it is, unless it was an excursion. Plenty of room for choice, anyway.

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How much help did he get?  All those sides look square which is better than some adults.  Defiately to be glued down, if only with Copydex or the equivalent.  It will make him feel brilliant and will come up when he, or you, gets fed up with it being there.

how much help? none, he is far too independent and determinded to master things on his own.

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The latest building on the layout.

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In fairness it was built by my 4 year old son who insisted it was time he built buildings like Dad, it is his first scratch build and he only had the off cuts box to work from and i was not giving him a scalpel.

He thinks it looks good here and it should now be glued down

i told him we should see if it looks best there before we glue it down.

So what did the other one do while his twin brother was busy?

 

 

And Sir when did you sneek in the point roding? I have only just noticed it.

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Work has been off the layout recently, building a steam lorry, such a nice kit from scale link

 

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It even has brake pads and chain drive.

 

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It saved me having to make my own.

I have always had a thing for these steam lorries and they had long lives so fit well with the idea of a wider time frame for the layout. This particular one was built from 1919 to 1929 and would have survived into the 50s(?)

It will be Patterson Pattern makers to be an industry which helps Cluro castings. I just need to make up my own tranfers for it.

 

I have had time to place some sheep, hopefully in a natural way in the first field to be finished.

 

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Still got the fence to do along the rest of the embankment and in front of the wood.

 

 

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Steam lorry done. It is amazing how much time can be spent in google looking at the colours of different areas. So much so that i found a full size one for sale......and was tempted.

 

 

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Still not otally settled on where it will be placed in juxtapostition to the weighbridge.

It is Pattinson's after a friend who has offered much sage advice, and whose modeling skill i aspire to emulate.

 

Next up a war flat for a nice change of wagon. However, it leaves question after question .

 

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What colour were they in WW1?

What end did the whippets face, (back to back, nose to nose, the same way)?

What colour scheme did the whippets have in the UK- before in theatre paint schemes were applied?

Any help any one (Clive) can give would be appreciated.

Richard

 

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Hi Richard

 

Dog walker hat on

Whippets are all sorts of colours, form light sandy to black with a white face. Most owners wear a dark coloured coat and a flat cap, which might be a fine check patten. The Whippets do not normally face the football match they have been taken to. Nor do the owners who are busy complaining how bad the team is to opposing team's whippet owner. 

 

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The Meduin Tank Mk1 would be loaded so all were facing the same way and where painted in a kharki green. Not too sure about the warflats colour, it might be a darkish grey from memory of seeing others WW1 models.

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Hi Richard

 

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Whippets are all sorts of colours, form light sandy to black with a white face. Most owners wear a dark coloured coat and a flat cap, which might be a fine check patten. The Whippets do not normally face the football match they have been taken to. Nor do the owners who are busy complaining how bad the team is to opposing team's whippet owner. 

 

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The Meduin Tank Mk1 would be loaded so all were facing the same way and where painted in a kharki green. Not too sure about the warflats colour, it might be a darkish grey from memory of seeing others WW1 models.

great thanks but would they have been plain green or had unit markings or were they sent over to a pool to be allocated to units once in france?

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great thanks but would they have been plain green or had unit markings or were they sent over to a pool to be allocated to units once in france?

Either or. They could be tanks being sent to a depot in France before issue to a battalion of the Tank Corps or it could a new battalion raised and equiped in England being sent to France. My knowledge of WW1 tank units is very poor so I can't help with which units were raised in the UK and which were raised in France.

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The decision to spray paint a batch of wagons has meant that progress has been made on the building front, but the wagons are in the raw. It shows up any dodgy building.

There is the war flat and a gunpowder van.

the gunpowder van is a reddish colour (alizarine vermillion) that i need to match against USA paint suplies, or wait to pick up a pot when i come back to Blighty in the summer. precission paints apparently do a pot.

 

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I will need to make up my own transfer for the Gunpowder van, unless someone does "gunpower van" in black to put on the side. Still at least that is easier to print than if it was in white.

 

Then the war flat. It only has one whippet on it as the other came with two left tracks so GRA models are sending a replacement part (good customer service)

 

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However, until it arrives there can be only one.

 

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I am not sure the sprung bogies are worth it, a lot of effort and the ride and roll are good but no better than the unsprung ones i have previously built.

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Either or. They could be tanks being sent to a depot in France before issue to a battalion of the Tank Corps or it could a new battalion raised and equiped in England being sent to France. My knowledge of WW1 tank units is very poor so I can't help with which units were raised in the UK and which were raised in France.

if i do a "raised in France" one then i do not need to worry about which was which as they would not have any markings to put on.

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more wagons for the production line before spray painting them. In fairness it is -19c outside so i will need to wait until it is 25c hotter before spraying.

I have more of the warflat as there was only one before.

 

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Then the twin bolster which is not quite finished it needs the chains added.

 

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Lastly the long open wagon, i already have one so i think i will add the hood which would be used for fish traffic, i do have some nicely moulded fish boxes from ten commandments, however, i fear that the wagon would have been covered so the fish would not get covered in soot which would mean you could not see the fish boxes anyway which would make having them in pointless anyway.

 

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All that is left now is the 63ft bogie flatrol L toscratch build in this batch. That will take a little longer to build.

Richard

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more wagons for the production line .......edited

 

Lastly the long open wagon, i already have one so i think i will add the hood which would be used for fish traffic, i do have some nicely moulded fish boxes from ten commandments, however, i fear that the wagon would have been covered so the fish would not get covered in soot which would mean you could not see the fish boxes anyway which would make having them in pointless anyway.

 

Richard

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Have you never heard of smoked haddock and wondered how they achieved this? :no2: :no2:

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I assumed it was left in the guards van where he smoked his favorate brand of tobacco in his pipe,

Some prefered their kippers to have the aroma of rough 5hag, though i have to say it was goldern virginia for my tastes.

Read into that what you will.

 

It censored out a perfectly respectable brand of tobacco!

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And the reason why things have slowed on the wagons.

For Valentines the wife took the kids to a model shop so they could get model planes to build. Read Daddy build them.

So this is the Hellcat which now adorns the celling of the kids bedroom.

 

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now back to trains. Tanks were distraction enough. At least they were for a Warflat load.

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Ah the midget, tiny petrol tank, unreliable in cold weathr but fun to drive.

And the midget doesn't stand behind you going "Have you finished yet?.....have you finished yet? over and over again.

Thats why i stayed up close to midnight to finish it so that i could finish it in peace.

This parenting malarky was seriously over sold by all the people with kids before we started on this caper. I think it was so we too could suffer like they were.

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