Dettingen GCR might have been layout

[richard i]

Base layer on.  Last of the tin. I really hope I can get another tin of it as the other weathered / dirty black I have from precision is not as realistic. It seems strange they had two similar but not quite the same colour under almost identical names. 

 

once it is dry I will look to finish them up with the rust etc which would be picked up. 
richard 

[richard i]

In the spirit of making these a real hodgepodge of parts. 
I did the maths and fitting 1.5mm deep slice under the body gives the correct depth. 
for those with keen eyesight will see that one set of bogies has footboards fitted to go at the brake end. 

 

 

But how to fit the bogies to the coach? I found some fixings from a couple of GBL directors I got for future projects. Waste not want not, so they will be the inner fixing points.

 

Time to open all holes out to more than 2.2 mm and glue parts in place, paint and jobs a good un. 
after that fix seats and glue down roof to finish. 
richard 

[richard i]

Barnums are done. Roofs still lose until after testing in case bogies / insides need attention. 

it has been a long project but that is the set ticked off the build list. 

Richard

[richard i]

The other two so they all get there moment in the lime light. 

 

Richard

[James Harrison]

Excellent job!

[richard i]

4 hours ago, James Harrison said:

Excellent job!

Thanks, they should look good passing through the station when the layout is all finished. 
richard 

[richard i]

Next project and a question. 
first the gcr buffet carriage. Possibly the best looking carriage ever. 

 

However the catering stock was different.

 

question: does anyone know of a kit for these or are they joining the scratch building list?

Richard 

[TerryD1471]

Those Barnums look superb. The GCR always did have a sense of style!

 

Terry

[richard i]

1 hour ago, TerryD1471 said:

Those Barnums look superb. The GCR always did have a sense of style!

 

Terry

Thank you terry. I don’t seem to be able to build them at your rate at the moment though.

richard 

[richard i]

Possibly the best looking carriage . Parker’s buffet carriage for the London extension.

 

it is the first of 6. Though what I do not understand is why the 6 kits have been supplied with only 2 buffer beams. Looks like I will be making more than I thought of these. 

Richard. 

 

[richard i]

2 of 7 and 3 of 7

 

i feel like the borg. 
the brake with the duckets was the most complicated of them. Then the corridor first. 
next up the corridor third, leaving the composite and the luggage compartment one to do. 
I was going to run as one train, but 5 coaches was quite normal and.,........ we may be seeing the dining set so two would go with those 3  to form a second Parker set. So one set in brown and French grey and the other in brown and cream. That will be a more challenging paint job. 
sorry the photos are not more exciting. 
richard

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi Richard

 

The coaches look a little bit too small for those passengers waiting to board them.

[richard i]

56 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hi Richard

 

The coaches look a little bit too small for those passengers waiting to board them.

That’s because they have not had their bogies fitted. Then it will look right. 
no mention that they are under water because they are below the boat. That the A3 is undersized. 

[Clive Mortimore]

18 minutes ago, richard i said:

That’s because they have not had their bogies fitted. Then it will look right. 
no mention that they are under water because they are below the boat. That the A3 is undersized. 

Channel tunnel stock?

[richard i]

10 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Channel tunnel stock?

‘Twas Watkin’s dream for the gcr so let’s assume the stock was built with the channel tunnel in mind. 

[TerryD1471]

So many aspects of Watkin's empire building seemed sadly to come to naught. Quite apart from the stupidity of dismantling the GC main line, there is the case of the Metropolitan tower. They had built the biggest part of it near Wembley, but then???,

 

And as far as the Channel Tunnel is concerned, to quote my favourite politician, "There is no worse crime than being right too soon."

 

I trust that everything is right in your household at this tricky time.

 

Best wishes

 

Terry

[richard i]

Terry 

we are holding up well, but the youth need some new jokes I have heard the ones they have too many times now. 
richard 

[richard i]

There is not much to show, another carriage through the basic build stage. This is a luggage composite if I have got my carriages correct. 

 

this one also have buffer beams on the etch. The only one which did, so I had to clean up a waste bit of etch which will need to make ten more buffer beams from. 

Richard

[richard i]

This is the boring bit. The floor has to be drilled to attach the bogies on six of them. 

 

measured off the d&s one.  Then to measure up for gas cylinders as there is really very little underneath.

still mulling over the roof design.  To roll or to make solid and shape? 
richard

 

[jimwal]

Afraid I've got none that shape Richard! Clive's the expert with layered plasticard roofs.

[richard i]

8 hours ago, jimwal said:

Afraid I've got none that shape Richard! Clive's the expert with layered plasticard roofs.

Thanks Jim,

I am in the dilemma because they are not a simple or shallow curve rather almost flat and the a steep curve. I may try to form the top, add the steep drop in a thicker piece, shape and then brace the inside. Or try and bend brass up, but would need a supply of brass sheet. Normally my brass scratchbuilding uses left over etch, but none have enough for seven roofs knocking about.

richard

[Andy Hayter]

When I built my Parker stock a long time ago, I used a sheet of balsa. cut and sanded to shape and then covered with high quality writing paper - Basildon Bond.  I doubt you can get that any more but for me it gave a nice representation of canvas covering.

[richard i]

54 minutes ago, Andy Hayter said:

When I built my Parker stock a long time ago, I used a sheet of balsa. cut and sanded to shape and then covered with high quality writing paper - Basildon Bond.  I doubt you can get that any more but for me it gave a nice representation of canvas covering.

Thanks that is a thought. Still leaves me to track down a balsa supply. I think I will add this to the experiment list. 
richard 

[richard i]

So this is my 2000th post. I only noticed recently I was near having said as much. I hope that what I have said has been useful/ funny or a question. I would hate to think any have offended people. I hope not. 
it is interesting that the digital world measures it, it puts numbers on what we do. I am supposed to have a 1000 interactions at work on average every day, so this is 2 days at work. it works out at one post every 10 days on average since I started.
is it a useful use of my time or does it distract from Modelling? Does it provide help which would be difficult otherwise? 
on balance I think it enhances my modeling especially when I was in the states or now on lockdown. It gets me answers and can boost my modeling mojo. 
Thank you for all those who have contributed to the journey so far. Many will have little idea how much it helped at certain times .

if you have been reading thank you,

Richard 

[Clive Mortimore]

On 20/05/2020 at 23:41, jimwal said:

Afraid I've got none that shape Richard! Clive's the expert with layered plasticard roofs.

Cheers Jim

 

Richard, will these help you?  Get a photocopy of your drawing and draw a horizontal line from one side to the other where the sides and roof meet. then draw a series of 1mm parallel lines. Where these lines bisect the roof line is the width of that layer of plastic card. When I use to make my own diesel locos the roofs were solid , this method might make a coach too top heavy so what I am now doing is attaching 5mm strips of 1 mm (40thou) plastic card at the right width.

 

So the sides have somewhere to fix to I add a 1mm thick false roof, this need not be a one piece but strips of plastic card.

 

Once set file away the square corners and as if my magic

 

I find it easier to file after fitting the roof as the coach body gives me something to hold. It can be done before fitting.

 

When you are happy with the shape any gaps bung in some filler and when that is dry smooth off. Job done.