RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted August 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2020 If brass is being stubborn it can always be annealed over a gas flame 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, Andy Hayter said: If brass is being stubborn it can always be annealed over a gas flame Hi Andy Better tell Richard to remove the plastic former first. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 19 hours ago, jimwal said: Well done Richard! A big hurdle overcome. That brass must be softer than Richard and me were believing it would be, Yes it was very pliable, but then it was very thin. richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Andy Hayter said: If brass is being stubborn it can always be annealed over a gas flame Fortunately not needed here. 4 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Andy Better tell Richard to remove the plastic former first. way ahead of you on this one. Also not a fan of the fumes given off when the plastic burns. richard 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Andy Hayter said: If brass is being stubborn it can always be annealed over a gas flame There is always the risk with doing that that it goes totally soft and is very easily distorted so it can be difficult to get a nice smooth curve on it, especially if it's fairly thin. Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 After looking at photos I felt I needed to make a new end for the third brake. it looks a little messy. It did look cleaner before I added the steps. The gap in the middle is for the corridor connector. So by my reckoning that makes it fit the third phase of the carriage’s development. just leaves the side duckets to make. Then the rest should just be adding on the missing bits. oh except for the end steps On both the carriages and bogies ( where needed) and bogie pivots. richard 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 End fitted to carriage, a little cleaning up needed. only duckets left of the conversion work, in brass or plastic? plastic is easier to work with but brass can be nailed on the side. Richard 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Decision on duckets. Brass. form from a folded u shape. A brass insert, then two strips top and bottom to form a gap in the middle for the window and then a final inset to form the back of the ducket and give something solid to solder to. on the carriage the beading needs filing away. These curved files were most useful. Rarely used but just the job here. This was the point of no return. then drill holes so that solder can be introduced from the back. The real point of no return. to be continued. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Then solder duckets to the sides. proof there is a tiny window. Visible in the end view as you see the train approach you or pull away from you. that is all the conversion work I think the set needs. Now back to Moving forwards. Roofs or buffer beams as that is almost all that is left. Solder or drill is really the decision here. Solder for steps or drill for roof furniture. I will clean it up before painting. richard 7 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Planning the next stage. the roof furniture. From drawings and photos, with a little extrapolation to work out gas pipe runs etc. it seems guard’s compartments did not have vents, I would have thought with gas lighting some vents would be necessary. richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 End complete. it might not look as finessed as the etched version it was similar too. However, going at speed it might pass muster. richard 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 I must apologize to everyone in Essex for the rain that will inevitably tomorrow. finally not only worked out what the bogie steps Looked like, but have made them and fitted them which means all the bogies could be washed ready for painting. hence why the gods will conspire to make it Rain so I can not spray paint them tomorrow. such is life, richard 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 Interesting T-shirt design, but I am not sure it will catch on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Regularity said: Interesting T-shirt design, but I am not sure it will catch on... All the time I have known Richard, if he is wearing something that is vaguely fashionable it is by accident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Regularity said: Interesting T-shirt design, but I am not sure it will catch on... It is a tea towel. I would not wear anything as fashionable as a tea towel. 55 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: All the time I have known Richard, if he is wearing something that is vaguely fashionable it is by accident. i would be horrified if I did. It would mean that I actually cared what others thought I should wear rather than forming my own opinion. richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: All the time I have known Richard, if he is wearing something that is vaguely fashionable it is by accident. Given the (I presume) “Flock of Seagulls”-inspired haircut in your avatar, I am not 100% convinced that you are best placed to pass comment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Regularity said: Given the (I presume) “Flock of Seagulls”-inspired haircut in your avatar, I am not 100% convinced that you are best placed to pass comment... Hi Simon The photo pre-dates the Flock of Seagulls, and no one in the band had a double Mohican. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted September 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Ahead of your time, then? (Somewhere in the world is a photo of me looking distinctly Robert Smith like. Thankfully, it is unlikely to ever appear in public!) Used to be able to play “Tube Disaster”, if you know it... Edited September 6, 2020 by Regularity Auto incorrect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 So it turns out, either I have not offended the gods as much as I thought, or the weather is not tied to what stage I am up to in building a model.......it just seems that way. a skilled painters would be horrified as both primer and top coats went on in the same day. paint up the wooden parts of the wheels and fit the five parts together and the bogies are done. nice to feel that these are starting to come together now. richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I frequently spray primer and top coat on within the day. What's the problem with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 9 hours ago, gr.king said: I frequently spray primer and top coat on within the day. What's the problem with that? I thought best practice was to let each layer harden off / cure over night. I could be making it all up though. richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I think it depends on the paint. I've noticed that some primers, especially the self etching variety, seem to come with instructions to allow time for the solvent in the primer to vent and for the etching action to occur before over-coating, so I follow those instructions, but I've never noticed a problem, on a properly prepared surface, when using say Halfords aerosol primer followed the same day by either the same firm's aerosol colour coat (either on full size motor cars or on models) or Humbrol / Railmatch / Phoenix Precision top-coat on models from a small sprayer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 9 hours ago, gr.king said: I think it depends on the paint. I've noticed that some primers, especially the self etching variety, seem to come with instructions to allow time for the solvent in the primer to vent and for the etching action to occur before over-coating, so I follow those instructions, but I've never noticed a problem, on a properly prepared surface, when using say Halfords aerosol primer followed the same day by either the same firm's aerosol colour coat (either on full size motor cars or on models) or Humbrol / Railmatch / Phoenix Precision top-coat on models from a small sprayer. That’s good to know. Reassuring there won’t be implications further down the line. richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 For many bogies come many wheels which need painting before fitting. now painted they will hopefully be fitted tomorrow. i know it is not a huge Step, but in lieu of Monday Club night, it is a post to show club night progress. richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Turbutt Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hi Richard, Good to see you are finding the time to do some modelling now you're back at work. I look forward to when we can give these coaches a run on the track in the garage. Monday afternoon's meeting was well attended but your presence was missed as you seem to be the only one doing anything. I hope we can carry on with our afternoon meetings in the garden for a few more weeks, weather permitting. The latest virus news is not encouraging so retreating back into the garage may be a problem if the situation continues to deteriorate. Bye the way, I cured the noise from the latest addition to my RTR 'collection' - the Hornby Princess - Queen(?) Maude. After removing the body and giving it a run the noise disappeared(?!) so the conclusion was a problem with the body. On inspection there were some pips inside the body below where the dome and top feeds were located - presumably the fixings for these items. There was also a feint mark around the fly wheel below one of these fittings. Using a riffler file (on Jim's suggestion) I filed back these pips until the inside of the body was smooth. After refitting the body and giving it a run all was well! I look forward to seeing further progress with your project. Cheers Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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