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4 hours ago, ChrisN said:

Preiser do beer bottles, and cups and plates etc.  I am not sure if they are current or if you have to look on EBay.

Good to know, though part of me feels if I am going to put them in I should have a go at making some as buying them seems a bit like cheating on the bar as it is all off cuts of plastic so far. Have I got any clear sprue to cut a glass or two from?

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The last interior has been built.

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it is much narrower than the Others because of the way the d&s body goes together. If the roof had been made to come off then it could have been wider. However, then I would be chasing the gap between ends and roof. 
you pays your money and you take your choices.

Now to paint and fit with a bunch of paintings and mirrors. I am drawing the line at luggage racks
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Compartments taped off for the white uppers to the compartment dividers. Ready for painting.

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then pictures mirrors and seats to paint.

have also printed my first transfers for the solebars 

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let’s see if they work otherwise it is plan E for how to get the detail wanted.

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The detailing begins.

the prints are real ones.

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the bar has a mug, teapot and real gcr postcards, the map is the gcr one plus pictures. 
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too far for something hidden inside a carriage? 
what else could I do. The filing cabinet in the station has an open draw with papers in it. 
this might explain why my builds take a long time.

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18 hours ago, jimwal said:

Richard, your builds seem quite quick given the research involved and what you are putting in the models.

Not when you consider that some can build a br maroon carriage in 3 days including painting, or under a week at least. 
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3 hours ago, ChrisN said:

Are the teapot and mug homemade or are they bought?  If homemade, how did you do it?

 Home made. I found a design of mug. Printed it on paper to scale and then glued it around a plastic rod. The coffee pot/ tea pot is round plastic rod of various sizes. Cemented to each other. They are more impressionist than perfect, but should give the illusion looking through the carriage window. Others go further. Clive models the bacon in the frying pan.

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24 minutes ago, richard i said:

Not when you consider that some can build a br maroon carriage in 3 days including painting, or under a week at least. 
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 Home made. I found a design of mug. Printed it on paper to scale and then glued it around a plastic rod. The coffee pot/ tea pot is round plastic rod of various sizes. Cemented to each other. They are more impressionist than perfect, but should give the illusion looking through the carriage window. Others go further. Clive models the bacon in the frying pan.

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Richard,

Brilliant! Well done.  It can be a rod for your own back though.  I started to build the furniture piece by piece for each room of a cottage I was building.  You can only make so many chairs before you go barmy, especially when I think I have a whole road to build, the station master's house, the refreshment rooms, and probably a school.

 

However, it does make so much difference.

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On the most detailed drawing we have the flooring.

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third and smoking have an iron plate. Those could be made, but will it be seen? 
the first non smoking had....tiles.....carpet I could do that as a paper coloured in. Simple but what colours? 
worth it? I would need 5. It would be a couple of days of diversion. 
I know most are saying put people in, they would be more visible, just two per carriage would be another 14 to paint up. Not sure I have that many seated people 

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3 hours ago, James Harrison said:

Which book or magazine is that drawing in Richard?- and are there other GCR carriages in it?

This one

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there are about 8-10 drawings of various carriages or rakes of carriages. All useful. Also information in the text.

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The carpets are in. I drew the line at cutting out the tassels on each corner.

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I am looking at how to do the brown and black on the solebars. The transfers did not work. The colour was not deep enough. Painting the brown with masks of 1mm wide strips of masking tapes over the black did not give straight enough lines and it still leaves the gold line. How to do that. My bowpen work is very poor so if that is the only route then they are going to have to have everything else done except that and then come back to it when I feel more confident. 
just thinking out loud, any mileage in LMS lining? It is black and straw around the edges. I just remember from using it years ago that there was no edging lining, I had to paint out one straw line.

ideas?

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The insides are in and the carriages have all been turned to the correct orientation. 
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you can see the carpets if you angle the carriages and catch the light correctly. So definitely worth it. 

as usual you do not notice that the insides are fitted, but it is obvious when they are not. 
trimming the floors to fit did give me an idea how to get the brown on the solebars. Paint up very thin plasticard and lay that on as a sort of 3D transfer. It is all sunken and in shadow so it may just work. 

then it is on to the green Howard’s 2-4-2 to see if that can be brought to life. 
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And I thought I was done. However an email exchange with JQ had him persuading me that the brown and gold had to go on. I found fox do a .3 mm gold lining. I tried on the d&s first as it has riveted detail so could not have an inlaid piece. I will have to touch in the brown and black afterwards where it is obviously missing. This is pre decal soft so it has not sat down over the rivets yet. It is certainly noticeable. 
now I have done this I am committed to doing another 4 sides and realistically another 13. 
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Now I do not know which plan we are up to for the others. Plan R? 1.5mm wide strips were too narrow to line on and outside lining meant the lower lining was lost.

the idea this time is 2.5 mm wide and put the gold transfer on the edge. Then stick it on the black painted sole bar which will give the black surround. 
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As Keith at club said, “And then they are finished?” I think so but I am sure to have missed something out. I hope they are as I am ready to move on to a different project. 
I was also kindly given a DJH kit, opening it I realized why people can build more quickly than I can. Firstly all the bits were there. Secondly there was loads of information available to help with the build.

maybe more exciting photos shortly. I will be doing one as a proof of concept and I still have to line the other side of the d&s third.

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17 hours ago, Manxman1831 said:

What will your DJH kit become?

It is nothing GCR related. It is coronation William stanier.

really out of period and location but a great looking loco.

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First one done. 
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it looks a little neater than the directly applied ones. Boy does it send my eyes dolally 

hopefully the lining will be more visible once on the model.

only 11 more to do. Though I am kicking myself as I think I have underestimated the amount of lining needed. Forgetting that I need two strips of it per side.

no doubt at this rate I will find out in December

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