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AEC Railcar Bogies.

These bogies were of 10’ wheelbase and MJT did a brass etch for that size.

 

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I tried to get close-up photographs of these bogies with no avail so I have made my own interpretation of what they may have looked like mostly from drawings.

 

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I think they were originally painted silver.

 

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Not sure if I want to see a close-up photo as it will only show how wrong I am but I’m not going to change them now.

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8 hours ago, kirley said:

AEC Railcar Bogies.

These bogies were of 10’ wheelbase and MJT did a brass etch for that size.

 

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I tried to get close-up photographs of these bogies with no avail so I have made my own interpretation of what they may have looked like mostly from drawings.

 

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I think they were originally painted silver.

 

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Not sure if I want to see a close-up photo as it will only show how wrong I am but I’m not going to change them now.

The bogies sideframes look nice and uniform, which can be difficult to achieve.

 

They look like bogies for BUT railcars rather than the earlier AEC cars which had conventional leaf suspension.

 

I got caught out using MJT/NNK sideframes for an AEC railcar set I had bought a set of Black beetle bogies for the power car with the correct 10' wb, when they eventually arrived the MTK sideframes were an invorrect 9'6".

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CIE Acrylonitrile Tankers. continued

 

Walkways cut out.

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Tubing arrived and the remaining tanks assembled.

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Masking off carried out in the sun which made this task more bearable.

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Ends and tanks sprayed, the rest of the painting will have to be by hand.

 

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A reward awaits after final touching up.

 

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Tanks completed but am waiting on decals.  I'll put up a test run video on my Kirley Junction page.

 

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AEC Railcars -CIE Pull-Push

 

I got brass etched AEC Railcar bits from Worsley Works to do the AEC's last working phase as part of the CIE Pull-Push set.

First to build the chassis and attach the bogies I had made for them last month.

 

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I had a loan of a rolling machine to do brass roofs but it was only when I brought it out onto the workbench to do the tumblehome on the sides did I realise the machine was designed for coaches 57’ long and not the AEC 62’+ length so I had to resort to basic methods.

 

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When I built my first AEC Railcar I got some cast parts from Phoenix Paints who had bought over MTK/NNK.  They had done bogie sides and Cab fronts for these Railcars but I did not know they were scaled down to fit 4 mm RTR stock.

 

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I have placed one Cab unit on top of the brass Worsley Works Railcar End and you can see how much narrower the Cab is.IMG_8812x.jpg.1c6b840ec34c00ab5b4d1c3229313426.jpg

 

A friend suggested cutting the Cab in half and widen it so I thought nothing to lose.

 

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I filled the gap with plasticard to bring the Cab out to the correct width.

 

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I used some Isopon inside the Cab to give it some added strength.

 

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Rough assembly of the body.

 

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After removing the plasticard strip from the window area I replaced it with a narrower one and added the headlight and the headlight box above it that CIE added.

 

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Assembly of the body.

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I had started on a brass roof assembly but give up. 

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I don't know how I would get the right profile especially when you see how much of the roof comes down to join the sides.

 

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I've reverted to my original method of using a Comet roof and widening it as I did on my first AEC build, delivery awaited.

 

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Sometimes you can be sorry you started if you knew how much work would be involved.

But you get there in the end.

That was a lot of work on the front, could you have used the brass fronts or would that be

as bad?

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12 hours ago, pat141 said:

That was a lot of work on the front, could you have used the brass fronts or would that be

as bad?

 

It probably would have been easier using the brass fronts, although there is a good bit of work trying to get them right.  Anyway I had the whitemetal ones so I wanted to use them.

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AEC Railcars -CIE Pull-Push

 

I had no idea just how spartin the insides of these railcars were after been stripped of the original seating and replaced  unbelievably by plastic chairs. 

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Stephen Hirsch kindly put up more detailed pictures of the interiors for me on Facebook, 'Irish Railways past and present' group.

 

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My attempt to replicate the plastic chairs using acetate printable sheeting.

 

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Side panels removed and the windows at the front of one carriage sheeted in.

 

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Reverted back to using the Comet aluminum roofs.

 

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A good spread on isopon to cover any gaps.

 

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Rough sanding down

 

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Then to the wet and dry to finish of the roofs.

 

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Very industrious, and labour intensive.

If Punks ruled the world they wouldn't be riding around in those things.

It would be stretch limos.

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