RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2014 To add to the thread - on the line from Leeds to York via Harrogate. Horsforth, on 2nd November 2012 shortly after re-signalling and completion of the turn back facility, with the closed Horsforth 'box in the background. Cattal, 2nd November 2012 Hammerton, 2nd November 2012 Poppleton, 2nd November 2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 A fascinating thread for me who knew little of signalling but now knows a bit more. Thank you!. Why at this late stage was it seen fit to add all the handrails? Were workers all of a sudden falling off after all these years or just H & S doing its thing? Merry Christmas Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 19, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2014 To add to the thread - on the line from Leeds to York via Harrogate. Hammerton, 2nd November 2012 Hammerton 02112012 1 RMWeb.jpg Shouldn't there be some sort of signal for access to the siding? It's somewhat more than just a catch point! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Possibly not Keith Meaford Crossing (Stone, Staffs) had a tamper siding with a signal for only one direction, There was no signal to go in but there was to come out (slotted by Stoke PSB). It was also strange that the siding was in fact in the car park and outside the boundary fence, rail access being via a gate. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2014 A fascinating thread for me who knew little of signalling but now knows a bit more. Thank you!. Why at this late stage was it seen fit to add all the handrails? Were workers all of a sudden falling off after all these years or just H & S doing its thing? Merry Christmas Brian. There has been a gradual replacement of older handrails with modern stuff since, roughly the mid/late '90s so the appearance has altered as heavier gauge tubing is now used instead off round bar or strip. The other thing is the impact of the Working At Height Regulations which has led to all sorts of overkill in recent years when in the past you were probably at your safest with your feet firmly on the ladder and your back end equally firmly wedged against the safety ring/hoop at the top of the ladder - in fact far safer than standing on a platform on the modern (overblown in my view) structures). Alas the over emphasis on maintenance staff 'safety' seem to have lost sight of the reason the signal is there - to protect teh safe passage of rail movements (but that's me being something of a cynic I will no doubt be told). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2014 There has been a gradual replacement of older handrails with modern stuff since, roughly the mid/late '90s so the appearance has altered as heavier gauge tubing is now used instead off round bar or strip. The other thing is the impact of the Working At Height Regulations which has led to all sorts of overkill in recent years when in the past you were probably at your safest with your feet firmly on the ladder and your back end equally firmly wedged against the safety ring/hoop at the top of the ladder - in fact far safer than standing on a platform on the modern (overblown in my view) structures). Alas the over emphasis on maintenance staff 'safety' seem to have lost sight of the reason the signal is there - to protect teh safe passage of rail movements (but that's me being something of a cynic I will no doubt be told). Nanny State gone mad. I worked on a good few 40 foot plus signals without even a ladder hoop. As a youngster I was taught how to climb a ladder safely and leg-lock yourself on by my father who was in the Fire Brigade and used to working without any H&S measures above fires on 100-foot turntable ladders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted December 20, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2014 Those Clacton Searchlights are nice, if only I could find one for the garden.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2014 Those Clacton Searchlights are nice, if only I could find one for the garden.... Andy G Theres one coming into Clacton that still has a miniature yellow subsidiary aspect to put you on the depot. As far as I know it's the only one left on the network Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 20, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2014 Are there any non-GWR non-BR(W) lower quadrants around anywhere? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2014 Are there any non-GWR non-BR(W) lower quadrants around anywhere? Keith There's a midland lower quadrant at ketton on the syston to Peterborough line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I've a few pictures of signals in my gallery. I will try to take a few more when next out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Old picture back in 1990"s Helsby... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 Just a few I have taken over the years - as the dates indicate - which are currently sitting in the jumble on my 'puter desk top. Starting with the splitting Down Home Signal at Boscarne Junction in 1964 Then the colour light (=Down Home Signal) at Henley-On-Thames in the same year and interesting for having a proper illumintated 'C' in the sub when working as a Calling On Signal Now a Western centre pivot with mechanical route indicator at Reading in 1965 - amazingly although a mainline station absolutely nothing railwaywise in this view still survives Now the back of a splitting centre pivot signal, Twyford West's Down Relief Home Signal, early 1960 And so to Salop (Shrewsbury to non Western folk) in 1993 with Crew Junction's Branch Home splitting signal (the dolls had been shortened by then I believe) And then the other end of the station to Severn Bridge Jcn's Down Main splitting Home Signnal completely with subs capable of two indications thank to Reading pattern (electric) stencil indicators. The Down Relief splitting Home Signal partially visible to the right And finally the one everyone seem to ignore at Liskeard - the Down Main Starting Signal in 1983 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 Helsby signals - before the gas axe chopped them down to half this height - see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/93699-uk-semaphore-and-modern-aspect-signal-photos/?p=1702499 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 Mostyn down starter - the disused doll carried the down slow starter, the slow lines were removed in the late 1960s (iirc) Mostyn up distant - this signal also once had two heads for the up fast / up slow but again the slow lines were removed in the late 1960s and the extra head went with them. I believe this signal had semaphore arms when first installed by the LMS/BR (not sure which - BR I think) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 Does anyone have a picture of the gas lit colour light that used to protect the junction at guisborough in Yorkshire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 Talacre Down home - replaced by a colour light in the early 1980s when the layout at Talacre was altered Colwyn Bay (ex No.1) down home. The disused doll controlled access to the slow lines, which restarted here after double track running from Llandulas, prior to the replacement of No.1 and No.2 boxes with the final Colwn Bay box the dolls also had distant arms. Colywn Bay down home 2 (ex No.2 down home) - the doll once had an arm for the slow line (the ground signals at the base replaced the arm), I think the connection from the old down slow to the down fast was provided when the slow lines were taken out of use in the late 1960s, hence the lack of doll controlling the connection. Colywn Bay down starter - provided after the slow line had been closed, as it is positioned in the formation ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 A few more to add to the mix. Over the water on the Isle of Wight at Ryde St John's Road around 1989. And a couple from the west end of Southampton Central showing the gantries on 21st March 2005. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Found a few more from my travels Boston docks branch Langham Jn. A bit meaty, the post on this one Heckington. Another meaty signal post Skegness Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 That new signal at langham is awful, they put another new one in at bottesford around the same time. That one replaced a concrete post one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I think the one at Heckington is much worse Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 I think the one at Heckington is much worse Andy In many respects yes - the concrete post which it replaced was reputedly an M&GN concrete post and not an LNER one - seemingly there were some subtle differences (glad i got a pic of it back in 1993). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Lowestoft Station ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 22, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2014 That new signal at langham is awful, they put another new one in at bottesford around the same time. That one replaced a concrete post one I think the one at Heckington is much worse Andy With that much steelwork, in the old days it would have supported the signal box as well! http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrbsh763a.htm Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 In many respects yes - the concrete post which it replaced was reputedly an M&GN concrete post and not an LNER one - seemingly there were some subtle differences (glad i got a pic of it back in 1993). Somwhere I have a similar picture from the 80s complete with the famous 8 sail windmill in the background. To compliment the pictures posted by Class 66 of Lowestoft here are a couple more from that town Ground signals A bit further out, Lowestoft No 6 and possibly Oulton's distant (can't be sure but I'm sure one of you out there knows) Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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