Ogauge83A Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 First Great Westerns Night Riviera service has been suffering from low availability of the Class 57/6 fleet now that two of the four locomotives are in Derby for works. The hired in locomotive from DRS, No. 57310, is also a source of problems and after multiple failures during the preceding weeks FGW have said no more, and the locomotive is due to be dragged to London tonight to be changed. The locomotive sat down at Exeter this morning and had to be dragged by two power cars Nos. 43149 and 43187, with the train seen passing Dainton bank. Tonight's train is due to start at Plymouth no Penzance. Antony Christie http://antony-christie.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/more-problems-for-fgw-sleepers-rescued.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rris Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Probably got to a stage now where the writing is on the wall for the Class 57s, a shame but this kind of reliability is not acceptable to anyone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Due to be back to back PCs again tonight Current status of the 57s 57602, RVEL, awaiting overhauled bogies from Wabtec. 57603, in service. 57604, restricted use, wheelflats. 57605, RVEL, under overhaul. 57610, keeps failing with coolant pressure issues, especially at going slowly round the high cant curve between Exwick Fields and Okehampton Road Bridge. 57303 is due to replace 57610 Part of the problem is that 57602 has been waiting for replacement bogies/wheel sets for a very long time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 They could always lease a Deltic !!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Can't work with mk3s (Yeah, I know it was tongue in cheek) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Why use a Deltic when there's a Western available? Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 57303 worked from Rugby today to Old Oak, passed it on my way home, waiting at Greenford south Jn. shame cant get that in for bit of haulage NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Another job for the class 68 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Why use a Deltic when there's a Western available? Geoff Endacott Has it got the power to haul the extra blankets needed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2014 Has is got to power to haul the extra blankets needed? No trouble moving 'em - considerable deficit when it come to keeping them cosy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I suppose all the wiring's different etc etc, but for a longer-term option couldn't they marshall the sleepers between a pair of HST power cars on a semi-permanent basis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Shame we can't have 305 back on the job, it's gone all Northern Belle-y now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2014 I suppose all the wiring's different etc etc, but for a longer-term option couldn't they marshall the sleepers between a pair of HST power cars on a semi-permanent basis? With an awful lot of work - and it would probably cost too much so very unlikely. Far more likely I would expect to see a change in the type of loco used depending on what's available in the hire market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2014 With an awful lot of work - and it would probably cost too much so very unlikely. Far more likely I would expect to see a change in the type of loco used depending on what's available in the hire market. I believe a few 67's may be coming spare from Chiltern Trains soon......................... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogauge83A Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 A picture to show the power cars about to work the Up sleeper off Plymouth with 57310 in tow http://antony-christie.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/more-problems-for-fgws-part-2.html Antony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Pity we are not in BR days, plenty about that could have been used then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardnoodleblast Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 At some time in the early '80's I did observe and photograph (remember that quaint technology?) one of the Aberdeen-Glagow-Edinburgh push-pull sets heading north to Aberdeen near Cove with a single MkIII sleeper marshalled between the 47/7 and the PP set. The sleeper was in the corporate blue-grey livery and the set in the Scotrail colours. Presumably the sleeper was being transferred to the depot in Aberdeen. Must dig the photo out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 As has been mentioned I'd have thought DBS surplus of underused 67s were the obvious choice. That said if/when FGWs two resident 57s return from overhaul the pressure should ease a bit, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 At some time in the early '80's I did observe and photograph (remember that quaint technology?) one of the Aberdeen-Glagow-Edinburgh push-pull sets heading north to Aberdeen near Cove with a single MkIII sleeper marshalled between the 47/7 and the PP set. The sleeper was in the corporate blue-grey livery and the set in the Scotrail colours. Presumably the sleeper was being transferred to the depot in Aberdeen. Must dig the photo out! Details on that working here, scrol down to post 8. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/16907-mk3-sleeper-trains-bluegrey-livery/ Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2014 A picture to show the power cars about to work the Up sleeper off Plymouth with 57310 in tow http://antony-christie.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/more-problems-for-fgws-part-2.html Antony But a far from comfortable trip for the punters passengers alas - mind you I suppose washing in cold water is meant to be healthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 How about a DRS Class 68 the livery almost matches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 You could always use some of these class 50's that are back on the mainline looking for work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 But a far from comfortable trip for the punters passengers alas - mind you I suppose washing in cold water is meant to be healthy The 57 was providing ETS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandman Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Here's a shot of the failed train passing Dawlish later on. Found it on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=924407614237276&set=a.271590592852318.80034.100000041374657&type=1&theater Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 rebuild an ETHEL from one of the many preserved cl 25s ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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