LNER Models in 4mm

[richard i]

2 hours ago, teaky said:

Building Coaches the Comet Way

Great resource thank you. 
richard

Edited April 29, 2020 by richard i

[richard i]

3 hours ago, jwealleans said:

Other way up - it's a five sided box (sides, ends, roof) which then screws down onto the floor.   I make all my coaches that way, it leads you to the neatest and least visible joints.   If you've made a D&S carriage or NPC then you'll have the idea.

 

There's a download called 'Building Coaches the Comet Way' which I think you can still find on their website which explains it in more detail.

And to think I have always built them with a removable roof and nailed the sides to the floor until now. Every day is a learning day. 
thank you for the advice. 
richard

[jwealleans]

Well, don't knock that method, it's what Larry G always does.   Then again there have only ever been him and David Jenkinson who could make the roof join invisible.

[micklner]

D&S GCR Milk Van , lovely kit.

 

 

 

Worsley Works etchers are now back at work, hopefully I will get the Roofs for the NER Clerstory Coaches shown earlier, in about a month time. Meanwhile, I have been building Nucast G6 photos in due course.

[micklner]

E bay find .

 

D&S NER Clerestory Dia 7 Compo and another Dia 18 Brake Third.

Photos show them broken down into component parts. I have just stripped the paint off both ( brush painted onto Brass without primer and  lumps and bumps in paint), as they both have most of the parts present, I will probably rebuild these first , the other ex NER Clerestories shown earlier are still awating the roof etches arrival.

 

Has anyone a copy of the Dia 7 instructions and/or some of the Dia 7 running numbers please ?? Also needed are cast Gas Tanks x 4 and a number of the small round bottom of the Bolster?  brass fittings for the bogie springs, cast Queen Posts x 4  if anybody knows a source for these items or similar  please ??

 

 

 

[Bucoops]

Good find I've been after some of those - I even have a daily email from ebay showing "d&s" so not sure how I missed them! I'll send you a PM in a minute regarding instructions.

Ref gas cylinders - a lot were converted to electric lighting so you may not need them?

 

Jonathan Wealleans used Comet LNER battery boxes (which I am planning on using). I can't help with the queen posts, but if you do decide you need the gas cylinders I may be able to help - I need to compare them to GER ones as I have some 4 wheelers that were probably still gas lit.

 

Edited June 21, 2020 by Bucoops
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[Bucoops]

Just a thought on the bogie parts - Roxey Mouldings may have some castings that would work - his springs include the damper things.

 

Too boogie is a D&S NER one, bottom is a Roxey plate bogie tweaked with different castings to resemble a GER one. This particular casting wouldn't look right for NER but it shows the included dampers. A lot  neater than my attempt at the D&S method.

 

Edited June 21, 2020 by Bucoops
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[micklner]

5 hours ago, Bucoops said:

Just a thought on the bogie parts - Roxey Mouldings may have some castings that would work - his springs include the damper things.

 

Too boogie is a D&S NER one, bottom is a Roxey plate bogie tweaked with different castings to resemble a GER one. This particular casting wouldn't look right for NER but it shows the included dampers. A lot  neater than my attempt at the D&S method.

 

The only part I need for the Bogies is the small circular part hanging below the frames (if that makes sense). Unless somebody has spares which would be very lucky !. I will make them from plastic rod once painted they wont be too obvious.

 Re Gas tanks yes please if you have any spare.

The coaches were poorly listed  I found them by sheer luck , there was also another one which was in poor condition , I slipped up and ignored it , I could have stripped it for spares for the two I have  !.

Many thanks for the copy of the instructions for the Dia 7.

Edited June 21, 2020 by micklner

[Jack P]

The D&S van looks excellent! Looking forward to seeing what you do with the coaches!

Edited June 22, 2020 by Jack P

[DougN]

I too are missing the fox bodies castings to a couple of coaches. Mjt  have the fox bogies but are GNR https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt/2416.php 

 

i may have the instrustions your looking for some where. I'll go digging over the weekend. I saw them about 2 weekends ago looking at my small but selective collection of carriages! 

 

Ok an hour later, I had a quick look...  the box it came in has turned up but not the instructions. I'll keep looking tomorrow (it's 10pm here)

Edited June 24, 2020 by DougN

[micklner]

1 hour ago, DougN said:

I too are missing the fox bodies castings to a couple of coaches. Mjt  have the fox bogies but are GNR https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt/2416.php 

 

i may have the instrustions your looking for some where. I'll go digging over the weekend. I saw them about 2 weekends ago looking at my small but selective collection of carriages! 

 

Ok an hour later i yer I had a quick look...  the box it came in has turned up but not the instructions. I'll keep looking tomorrow (it's 10pm here)

I have the instructions thanks. If yours does'nt turn up I can forward the copy I have .

[DougN]

This is what I found today on the dia 7's 

along with

 

i am not not sure if this has solved any of your questions. The turned brass bolsters to the bottom of the bogies are an issue as I too am missing these. I am tempted to try the MJT versions as I have spares of  from the various NER coaches I have collected but none of these little bolsters or the axles boxes/ spring units. 

[Bucoops]

From what I have seen there are two versions of the round bits (bolsters? dampers?) - early ones had whitemetal ones which are what I have used a couple of times. Then there are the brass ones which I've not built any of yet. I do have a GER restaurant car which has Fox bogies that has them in the roundtuit pile.

 

[DougN]

Oh I hadn't forgotten those version. 

[micklner]

4 hours ago, DougN said:

This is what I found today on the dia 7's 

along with

 

i am not not sure if this has solved any of your questions. The turned brass bolsters to the bottom of the bogies are an issue as I too am missing these. I am tempted to try the MJT versions as I have spares of  from the various NER coaches I have collected but none of these little bolsters or the axles boxes/ spring units. 

Excellent thanks very much. The "Bolsters" in brass are being replaced with ones from old Kirk Gresley bogies. Not perfect but near enough .

[micklner]

Latest build a very old Nucast LNER ex NER G6/BTP ,it came with a "chemically enginnered"  chassis as per the box description . Sadly they succeded in making it longer than the body, the etched splashers however were very well done and a good fit .

It also suffered from the whitemetal Cab Front and Rear and Cab floor being to wide as well !!. Beaten into submission after a valiant fight. Powered by a excellent N Drive 1015 motor and  a High level Compact + gearbox which just fitted out of sight.

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by micklner

[CXW1]

Lovely stuff. I was going to press the 'like' button but your BTP is way better than that. The etched splashers are particularly good - I didn't know that Nu Cast kits were supplied with such modern innovations!!

 

Cheers

 

Chris

[Brit70053]

One of the most attractive and impressive pieces of modelling I've seen for quite some time and additional kudos given the provenance of the base model BTP.

 

Regards, 

 

                John

[micklner]

On 21/06/2020 at 13:53, micklner said:

E bay find .

 

D&S NER Clerestory Dia 7 Compo and another Dia 18 Brake Third.

Photos show them broken down into component parts. I have just stripped the paint off both ( brush painted onto Brass without primer and  lumps and bumps in paint), as they both have most of the parts present, I will probably rebuild these first , the other ex NER Clerestories shown earlier are still awating the roof etches arrival.

 

Has anyone a copy of the Dia 7 instructions and/or some of the Dia 7 running numbers please ?? Also needed are cast Gas Tanks x 4 and a number of the small round bottom of the Bolster?  brass fittings for the bogie springs, cast Queen Posts x 4  if anybody knows a source for these items or similar  please ??

 

 

 

Ex NER Dia D 7 and Dia 18 rebuilt. It would have been a lot easier to have built kits!! Lots of little mistakes in the builds when examined, and have been totally rebuilt including a new roof for the Dia 18.

 

I am still waiting for the roofs from Worsley Works for the other part built ex NER Coaches shown earlier , hopefully soon . I have also obtained secondhand parts for a further Dia 18 as well.

 

 

[micklner]

NIU Models conversion kit for the ACFI system fitted to a very poorly secondhand Hornby Flying Fox body. The Loco is post 1935 as I have added front steps , new Boiler washout plugs. I slsos required due to damaged when bought , repainted and new lining  boiler, new smokebox door and surround repaired and virtually all the small detail parts were also missing and replaced from the spares box ( never throw anything away). Brassmaster ashpan lever  and reversing rod.

 

Circa 1935 GN Tender

 

Circa 1938 new type Non Corridor tender ( a repainted Hornby BR version).

 

 

Close up of the plumbing and ACFI Heater. The small pipe runs are as in a photograph, nothing level !.

 

 

Edited September 8, 2020 by micklner

[Matti8]

Wow talk about completely transforming a RTR model. Looks lovely.

 

-Matti

[micklner]

Some photos of the Flying Fox body prior to repair.

 

 

 

 

[micklner]

This arrived today via HERMES wrapped in a bit cardboard and some bubble wrap. The poor thing didnt journey well. Please dont use Hermes they must have a world cup standard Football team and a Rugby team working for them !!

 

A suitable refund is being given , what I now need are the building instructions for a Little Engines LNER A7 , hopefully it can be saved in due course. Not helped by whitemetal crossheads and whoever built it added a plastic sheet roof for the Cab. Any suggestions a re a source for lost wax crossheads and/or rear bogie casting please?

 

Thanks for any assistance.

 

 

 

[Bucoops]

Are any of the Comet (Via Wizard) offerings any use for the crosshead or perhaps even an etch for the bogie?

[micklner]

I have now furthered examined the A7, and found a old Triang type chassis fitted with a XO4 and a stripped gear (listed as a good runner). It will be sent back as its fit for the bin, not worth the time and effort to get it going, unless anyone has a spare Little Engines kit A7 chassis  !!