Billy Flathead Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Hi folks Being new to this kind of thing I thought I would start with a brief description of the layout so far. In my imagination it is the Hull and Barnsleys last push to actually reach Barnsley so it has some features from other parts of the H+B whilst using local locos and stock. I have an 8x6 shed so to make best use of space, track runs from one corner to the opposite corner. At the right hand side a colliery line branches off, both lines go through holes in the sky to a detachable shelf outside the shed, running onto a cassette. The other end finishes at the shed wall, but will eventually go out and along the garden fence for about 30 feet. Hopefully this summer will see some progress in this department. Don't count on it though, I've been at it for ten years and progress is glacial. Here are a few photos. The bridge is half of the double span at Bullcroft junction and the station building is Pickburn Edited November 11, 2017 by Billy Flathead 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 As someone with a keen interest in and a modeller of the Hull & Barnsley Railway I shall follow this topic with great interest. Sadly it's a little modelled railway which is a great pity as it was such a distinctive and fascinating railway. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I've a big interest in railways model or real around Barnsley I'll be following with interest Glad to see another Barnsley area layout Look forward to progress Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 A real antidote to the formulaic layouts seen so often on this forum! A good start and I'll look forward to your progress! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Flathead Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Thanks Dave, Brian and Martin for your kind comments. I will post updates if there is any progress. I am trying to finish the bridge and fill in some contours near it with styrofoam blocks at moment. here's a few more photos. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted January 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2015 In a handful of photos, you've piqued my interest. Interesting layout and lovely stock & locos. Definitely a step above the average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Spot on that man! It's the workaday drab ordinariness that does it for me. Track looks good too ....care to elaborate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 You've some nice motive power and rolling stock they look the part for the area And like said above some nice track work too Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 John Fozard at North Eastern Design produced a Hull & Barnsley semi-corridor coach in etched brass. The model is looking good.....you have made a good job of the trackwork. Keep up the good work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Flathead Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Thanks Jason. Love your terrace houses, wouldn't have the patience for so many though. I am thinking of a row of backs with outside privys behind the goods yard, it gets planned as I go along so time will tell. Thanks Martin. Drab ordinariness is just what I am aiming for, steel minerals, old wooden wagons, empties in full ones out, push pull locals. For a bit of flash though a Mexborough B1 or a director would be nice. There were some out of the ordinary things in Barnsley though, see below, I have not got the hang of mixing text and photos yet. Track is 00, steel rail C&L chairs glued to plywood sleepers, you can see the shiny bit where the cosmetic fish plate has fallen off. Thanks Bri. So far I have ben able to keep it all local, O4 and N5 are Barnsley, 1P 4F and 8F are Royston and I would love one of the Royston 2Fs. Thanks Coachman. Yes I saw it on his web site, it does look lovely. I would need more practice first, maybe one for the future. The driving trailer is the first coach I have built. I have an underframe for a composite to go with it and an old Kemilway Gresley steel all third in the drawer. Cheers David 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) It gets better Nice looking U1 what kits was that Even keeping it local there's so much choice so looking forward to new additions What other loco's are you fancying for the layout Id love an 04 and N5 but in N and definatly an U1 lol Brian Edited January 4, 2015 by bri.s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Flathead Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Hi Brian. The garrett is the DJH kit, I bought it about thirty years ago from Beatties in Sheffield because DJH said it was a limited edition. As for other locos, a crab would be nice, it would have to be 42762, a C13 67434 and a WD 280. If I did another N5 it would be 67325 with full lining. But what I would really like is an up to date, affordable kit for a coke hopper Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold kipford Posted January 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2015 Has a lot of potential, trackwork looks nice, have you got a high level shot of the complete layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Hi Brian. The garrett is the DJH kit, I bought it about thirty years ago from Beatties in Sheffield because DJH said it was a limited edition. As for other locos, a crab would be nice, it would have to be 42762, a C13 67434 and a WD 280. If I did another N5 it would be 67325 with full lining. But what I would really like is an up to date, affordable kit for a coke hopper Cheers David Hi David The garret looks great ,nice work with it I was looking through a book yesterday and remembered after seeing a picture of a C13 on a Barnsley ,penistone run and wrote them onto my list of steamers I'll have to have a look out to see if there's a kit for one out there in N gauge can't see a ready to run one coming anytime soon Is there a 00 kit? there's the shenston road thread on here and on the latest page there's some pictures of a rake of the LMS coke hoppers and some of the variants it would be nice to see a new kit available they're the one thing on my List I've managed to get hold of which I was surprised at when I get round to actually building them is anyone's guess though lol Barnsley shed also had a few Q4's aswell They worked on trip workings and as shunters at local yards so I believe so wouldn't mind one of them Brian Edited January 7, 2015 by bri.s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) I'm sure I remember someone telling me that there was a rake of the coke hoppers painted in a yellow colour that used to run through cudworth many moon ago don't know how true that is it's hard to tell there colours on black and white photos lol Brian Edited January 7, 2015 by bri.s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Flathead Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hi Brian. Nu Cast did a kit for the C13 but they fetch good money on ebay and there is a ready to run model by OO works, again quite expensive. Might have to have a go myself. Those Shenston Road coke hoppers look really good, I've tried bidding on some of those 3H kits but always been out bid. I've read that about the yellow hoppers too but don't know where, maybe it went to Barrow in Furness. Barrow pit had yellow coal wagons and a coke train to Barrow in Furness is mentioned in Barnsley Cudworth & Royston by David Green and Peter Rose. Missed one off my list, an ex GC B7. Never seen a picture of one in Barnsley though. Hi kipford. I've tried my best, but I can't get into either corner, so this taken at arms length behind my head. I don't have much light either. Cheers David 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Looks very promising. Nice feeling of Barnsley "grot". With apologies to Barnsley..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Just been having a bit of a read and looking though a few books and articles on the Barnsley area and cant find a picture or reference to a B7 going through Barnsley either . The closest ive seen is at Sheffield Vic on a passenger They were some allocated to Gorton early on and in later life they all ended up there so its possible that they went through Barnsley on a freight they did excursion work as well so might have done an excursion through Barnsley Well reading up on them I found that there was a few B5's allocated to mexbough andsometimes worked as bankers on the worsbough incline (Sorry if you already know all this ) You were on about out of the ordinary how about a S1 Wath hump shunter they were beasts as well Brian Edited January 11, 2015 by bri.s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hi David Added to my list of layouts to keep an eye on. You were very brave in doing a curved scissors crossover with an offset diamond. I done a straight one and that was complicated enough. I really like the ex PO wagons with BR patches and numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Flathead Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hi Brian. B7s would have gone through Penistone regularly so that's local enough for me. Have you got Aspects of Barnsley vol. 4. There is a picture of a yellow wooden coke wagon lettered Barrow. On the opposite page is a picture of new red Barrow wooden underframe tank wagon in 1919, which would make a lovely model though from a different time period. Hi Clive. The track layout is roughly Pickburn with a few extra sidings. On the real thing single turnouts and a single slip were used but I had to compress it to keep it inside the shed. It is nice to see wagons rattle across it though. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hi David No I've not got any of that series of books , I've seen them on the book stall on the top level of the market so I'll go and have a look through and see if I can get a couple are there any ones imperticular that are worth getting ? Looking earlier was the first time I'd seen a B7 one would look nice trundling past your station And agreed the yellow coke wagons and red framed ones would make an interesting model , quite out if my time frame as well my next layout is set in the late 60's to mid 70's Barnsley area (sort of around stairfootish) I'll hopefully be going earlier with the era once there's more steamers come out RTR Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Just been having a bit of a read and looking though a few books and articles on the Barnsley area and cant find a picture or reference to a B7 going through Barnsley either . The closest ive seen is at Sheffield Vic on a passenger They were some allocated to Gorton early on and in later life they all ended up there so its possible that they went through Barnsley on a freight they did excursion work as well so might have done an excursion through Barnsley Well reading up on them I found that there was a few B5's allocated to mexbough andsometimes worked as bankers on the worsbough incline (Sorry if you already know all this ) You were on about out of the ordinary how about a S1 Wath hump shunter they were beasts as well Brian If you wanted to have a go I think I have the chimney and some bits from long ago when I fancied making one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Flathead Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hi Brian I've only got no4 and no7. No4 has a chapter on the Wincobank to Barnsley branch, no7 has nothing of railway interest except one photo of the book stand at courthouse. Fat Controller mentioned Palvans in your thread, theres a picture in no4 of a Palvan being loaded at the Izal factory. It shows a worker pumping up inflatable cushions inside to protect the fragile load. Maybe glass companies could have used this. Hi Engineshed. Thanks for the offer but a C13 or B7 will be a long time in the future and I collect too many parts I never get round to using. Made a bit of progress on the layout. Made a bit of fencing at work and planted some plumbers hemp behind it, I will trim it back and colour it this weekend. The bridge girder is a bit of a cheat, its only detailed on one side. Cheers David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks David I'll see if I can get hold of vol 4 and have a look through the others And thanks again I'll do some research on the palvan wagons and the izal factory ,I think that was at thorncliff I don't bother modelling both sides of a bridge if it's a scenic break if no one can see it no one will know lol On my last layout I only modelled 2 sides of a goodshed no one could have seen the other 2 so I didn't bother (but iam lazy lol ) The fence looks good and it'll look nice and overgrown behind once you've done Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Flathead Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Just a quick update. I've put a bit of colour an the grass, this was a try out as this bit will be mostly out of sight. Only another acre to go! I will take some plastic to work to chop up for more fence panels. Bottom picture is a new addition to the fleet. I've had it about twenty years but its been in a box with three buffers missing and no brake levers. It's got a new Rumney Models etched chassis and had a repaint. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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