RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted October 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2020 Quote This bridge will have room for at least one bus. Has to be done. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 26, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2020 I've started the next two signals - a ground disc, which is straightforward and a two-arm signal with a 4ft stop arm and a 2ft calling-on arm below it. I'm feeling my way with the calling-on arm, as I've never done one before (although @Barry O of this parish made me one nearly 40 years ago using Colin Waite parts, for the first St Enodoc layout). The first job was to move the lamp to the opposite side of the post, where the pivot is. I had a false start there, trying to reuse the lamp that I'd cut off. That didn't look right at all, so I had a rummage in the signals box and decided to use one of the square lamps from a ground disc kit instead. I filed a flat on the pivot moulding and glued the lamp on. It looks much tidier. Now I need to find a simple and neat way to represent the prism shape that contains the reflector to direct the light through the "C" indication when the arm is off. I haven't found the answer to this yet so any ideas would be welcome. The two sides of the prism that are at right angles need to be about 2.5mm square. No photos at the moment until I've sorted out the prism, after which things should be pretty straightforward (famous last words). 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallpaul69 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: I've started the next two signals - a ground disc, which is straightforward and a two-arm signal with a 4ft stop arm and a 2ft calling-on arm below it. I'm feeling my way with the calling-on arm, as I've never done one before (although @Barry O of this parish made me one nearly 40 years ago using Colin Waite parts, for the first St Enodoc layout). The first job was to move the lamp to the opposite side of the post, where the pivot is. I had a false start there, trying to reuse the lamp that I'd cut off. That didn't look right at all, so I had a rummage in the signals box and decided to use one of the square lamps from a ground disc kit instead. I filed a flat on the pivot moulding and glued the lamp on. It looks much tidier. Now I need to find a simple and neat way to represent the prism shape that contains the reflector to direct the light through the "C" indication when the arm is off. I haven't found the answer to this yet so any ideas would be welcome. The two sides of the prism that are at right angles need to be about 2.5mm square. No photos at the moment until I've sorted out the prism, after which things should be pretty straightforward (famous last words). Hi there, Have you got a photo of the prototype of your two arm signal? If so can you quote me the source or post the photo? I am looking for one for a signal I need to get made! Cheers Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 26, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Tallpaul69 said: Hi there, Have you got a photo of the prototype of your two arm signal? If so can you quote me the source or post the photo? I am looking for one for a signal I need to get made! Cheers Paul Paul, there are plenty in the usual sources - Vaughan, etc. A web search for "GWR calling on arm" will also find some. Harder to find pictures of the CO arm in the Off position though. There is one on this page: https://www.roscalen.com/signals/Cambrian/index.htm Scroll down until you reach Machynlleth. Edited: There's also a page for High Wycombe! https://www.roscalen.com/signals/HighWycombe/index.htm Edited October 27, 2020 by St Enodoc 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 27, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2020 I think I've worked out how to do the prism. I spent a good while trying to find something that could be filed or sanded easily in one go to the right shape but didn't come up with anything. What I've done instead, and I think it will work, is to cut a short piece of Evergreen angle and fix it to the side of the lamp with the "screen" facing forward. There is of course a gap behind it which needs to be filled. I plan to part-fill the gap with a few scraps of styrene, then finish off with filler and sand to shape. I'll report back. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 29, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Here we go. You be the judge... First, the failed attempt. I didn't even bother with the prism as the lamp a) didn't look right at all and b) was far too big, so didn't actually leave enough room for the prism within the overall length of the arm. I think this will do. The square face on the front is about 2mm square and the distance from the pivot centre to the end of the prism is about 6mm (the arm itself is 2.5mm deep and 7.5mm from the pivot centre to the end). I've a couple of ideas for future versions (I need a further two of these at Porthmellyn Road, plus another at Pentowan) that will make the job slightly easier but once this is painted I think all will be well. I'll try the label printer set at its smallest size for the "C" on the front. If that's too big, I'll print something from the computer instead. The next update will be when I've assembled the arms. Edited July 17, 2023 by St Enodoc images restored 4 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 29, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 27/10/2020 at 08:17, St Enodoc said: Paul, there are plenty in the usual sources - Vaughan, etc. A web search for "GWR calling on arm" will also find some. Harder to find pictures of the CO arm in the Off position though. There is one on this page: https://www.roscalen.com/signals/Cambrian/index.htm Scroll down until you reach Machynlleth. Edited: There's also a page for High Wycombe! https://www.roscalen.com/signals/HighWycombe/index.htm A better one here: https://www.roscalen.com/signals/GWSR/Toddington/index.htm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 29, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) I was on a roll so carried on for a while before dinner. Here are the parts for both arms. The main stop arm parts are just the same as the ones I've made before but I cut back the pivot for the calling-on arm as far as I dared without the little piece surrounding the hole for the operating wire falling off altogether. You should be able to see how much smaller it is than the one for the main arm. These two photos show the calling-on arm after gluing the etched arm itself to the pivot. Here's the arm mounted on the post to check the fit. In the On position you can see that the screen is obscured... ...while in the Off position it is revealed. The spectacles fall nicely in front of the lamp too. That's it for tonight apart from priming both arms and letting them dry overnight. Edited July 17, 2023 by St Enodoc images restored 10 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 New one on me, that prism thingy. Every day's a skool day! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 29, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: New one on me, that prism thingy. Every day's a skool day! I don't know whether it's actually a prism, Graham, or just a reflector at 45 degrees to the indicator screen. Either way, it's inside a casing that from above or below looks like a square cut in half on the diagonal. The prototype had the lamp bracketed out from the post but for the sake of functionality I like to use the (overscale) Ratio pivots. What I haven't found yet is a good photo of the arm from behind so I'm not sure of the backlight blinder arrangement. I'll probably just make that up. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 31, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2020 A bits-and-pieces day today. The JST RCY connectors haven't arrived yet, which is a little disappointing given that the first lot only took two days, so I couldn't install any more signals. No matter. I continued with the two that are under construction to the point where they are now painted and the stripe is in place on 24 disc. Thanks to a couple of tips from Steve Pearce @31A for fixing Modelmaster transfers, mainly using Klear before fixing the transfer and Transfix rather than Micro Set/Sol afterwards, this one seemed to go on much more easily than before. The ground disc is now ready for the actuator to be fitted but the two-arm single post (52/48) hasn't quite reached that stage yet. Everything is painted now, so tomorrow I'll have a go at the transfers on the main arm. The calling-on arm was easy to paint, as the recessed centre part made a good guide for the edge between the red and white. I should be able to assemble the signal tomorrow. I will cobble up the backlight blinder from a full-sized one. From the indistinct photos that I have, it looks to be about half the size of the ones on the main arms. Separately, I had to fix some more shelves (Ikea LACK, which will please Rob @NHY 581) to the lounge room wall, so I didn't get much time in the workshop or railway room. I did manage to cut some ply rectangles for some more relay modules, though, and hot-glue some relays to them. When these modules are finished I will have enough to complete Porthmellyn Road signals. 6 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2020 Watched the bleeding slow cup.. right from the Haka you could see the Wallabies were beaten.. didn't end up well for them... But it did let me complete my tax return.... Baz 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 31, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2020 57 minutes ago, Barry O said: Watched the bleeding slow cup.. right from the Haka you could see the Wallabies were beaten.. didn't end up well for them... But it did let me complete my tax return.... Baz Men against boys. Until Australia develops a proper second-tier competition like the Mitre 10 Cup (or National Provincial Cup as I still prefer to call it) as a feeder to the Super Rugby comp, whatever form that takes in future, I can't seen any real likelihood of change. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 1, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Barry O said: Watched the bleeding slow cup.. right from the Haka you could see the Wallabies were beaten.. didn't end up well for them... But it did let me complete my tax return.... Baz 11 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Men against boys. Until Australia develops a proper second-tier competition like the Mitre 10 Cup (or National Provincial Cup as I still prefer to call it) as a feeder to the Super Rugby comp, whatever form that takes in future, I can't seen any real likelihood of change. Of course, it was raining. Everyone knows that the Wallabies can't play in the rain (cf. Australia v Scotland, Newcastle, 2012. I was there... and needed a few whisky macs to revive myself afterwards). Notwithstanding the number of handling errors that resulted, there were several panic moments where the ball carrier threw a speculative "pass" instead of taking the tackle and setting up another phase. The tactic of keeping Caleb Clarke out of the game worked but only to the extent that it let the rest of the NZ backs into it. Only one of the Wallabies looked as though he belonged on the same field as the All Blacks - Dane Haylett-Petty at full-back. On balance, I would imagine that doing your tax return was more fun. Edited November 1, 2020 by St Enodoc 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 1, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) On 29/10/2020 at 12:55, St Enodoc said: I'll try the label printer set at its smallest size for the "C" on the front. If that's too big, I'll print something from the computer instead. The label printer "C" turned out to be just too big at about 2.5mm high, which was a shame, so I printed the "C" on the computer, using Gill Sans MT Condensed Bold 6pt. No, I've no idea whether it's right either but it looks fine to me. I cut the letter out, 2mm square, and to avoid any risk of the ink running I glued it on using a paper glue stick. We're on the home run for this batch now, with the transfers drying on the main arm. I'll be able to trim those later, then varnish both arms so they can dry overnight. After that, only the spectacles and assembly to follow. The next batch will be the same as this one except that the ground disc (25) will have a yellow stripe. I haven't got any suitable waterslide transfers for that, so I'll try a piece of Pressfix instead. Edited July 17, 2023 by St Enodoc images restored 15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted November 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2020 11 hours ago, St Enodoc said: The next batch will be the same as this one except that the ground disc (25) will have a yellow stripe. I haven't got any suitable waterslide transfers for that, so I'll try a piece of Pressfix instead. Are you going for yellow on white or the later yellow on black? I’ll have rely on The Stationmaster to say when black came in. White is the safer bet ‘hasn't been updated yet’ but black looks smarter. Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 1, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 hours ago, 5BarVT said: Are you going for yellow on white or the later yellow on black? I’ll have rely on The Stationmaster to say when black came in. White is the safer bet ‘hasn't been updated yet’ but black looks smarter. Paul. Thanks Paul. I've no idea when it changed either. Yellow on white is my plan, unless Mike @The Stationmaster tells me I shouldn't. Funnily enough, I think that looks nicer than yellow on black and it's my train set... There'll be another at Pentowan eventually. Perhaps I could make that yellow on black, just to confuse the drivers. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted November 3, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) I finished 52/48 signals last night. I suppose I could have shown both arms Off but that would have been a bit silly... Separately, I contacted the electronics company about the JST RCY connectors - there has been some sort of glitch in their system but they have today forwarded the first part of my order by express post, with the rest to follow in a week or two when they are back in stock. That should let me get on with installation at the weekend. In the meantime, before starting the next batch of signals I need to make some more actuators. Edited July 17, 2023 by St Enodoc images restored 15 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 3, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2020 After all the frothing over the Bachmann winter announcements and a new-tooling Manor... ...there isn't one. However, the long-delayed 94xx is on the list for release within the next three months, although the price looks rather eye-watering. Perhaps my Lima/Bachmann 8412 will stay in service a little longer. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted November 3, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: However, the long-delayed 94xx is on the list for release within the next three months, although the price looks rather eye-watering. Perhaps my Lima/Bachmann 8412 will stay in service a little longer. I'm feeling rather smug in that I had already decided not to go for a 94 as there were more appropriate (for me) offerings in the pipeline. However, if I read it correctly, the 94 is only available with sound... Not wishing to open up that particular can of worms again, that's a very significant extra sum of money for a feature I would never use... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 3, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, TrevorP1 said: I'm feeling rather smug in that I had already decided not to go for a 94 as there were more appropriate (for me) offerings in the pipeline. However, if I read it correctly, the 94 is only available with sound... Not wishing to open up that particular can of worms again, that's a very significant extra sum of money for a feature I would never use... That's right Trevor. The listed catalogue numbers all have the suffix SF, which must be why the price is so high. Perhaps versions with no suffix will also be available. There's not much wrong with my 8412, apart from the wrong cylinder covers, but overall it is of its time. We shall see. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, St Enodoc said: That's right Trevor. The listed catalogue numbers all have the suffix SF, which must be why the price is so high. Perhaps versions with no suffix will also be available. There's not much wrong with my 8412, apart from the wrong cylinder covers, but overall it is of its time. We shall see. These are just new announcements into the range, for the 94xx there are also DC models at £130 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 3, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, woodenhead said: These are just new announcements into the range, for the 94xx there are also DC models at £130 Ah, I see - do you think they'll all be available within the next three months? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Ah, I see - do you think they'll all be available within the next three months? According to Bachmann's site - yes https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/category/model-railway/branchline/steam-locomotives 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 4, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2020 13 hours ago, woodenhead said: According to Bachmann's site - yes https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/category/model-railway/branchline/steam-locomotives Thanks. I must have misunderstood the meaning of these quarterly announcements. I thought they were to tell us what would appear on the shelves in the next three months, irrespective of what had been announced previously. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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