RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted August 5, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) P11983 is now complete. I weathered the underframe first, dry brushing with Railmatch Dark Rust acrylic then added an overall coat of Railmatch Frame Dirt acrylic, which I wiped off with toilet paper before it dried. I used the Frame Dirt on the body in the same way but didn't bother with the Dark Rust. One day I'll make a coal load for it. Edited June 29, 2022 by St Enodoc images restored 29 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted August 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 5, 2021 Would it have a bit of white on it from the china clay ? Baz 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 5, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Barry O said: Would it have a bit of white on it from the china clay ? Baz I don't think so, Baz. This represents a wagon that brought in coal for the kiln, so it probably wouldn't have got coated in clay like the others. Whether or not that's true, I think the contrast will look nice anyway. 6 3 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted August 6, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) This morning I had my annual MOT with my cardiologist. As usual, he said he wants to see me again next year, from which I take comfort that he expects me to survive for at least another 12 months. Buoyed by that, I laid the temporary track into Polperran this afternoon. I made a mistake on Monday. I should have left the last few inches of track that I laid then floating, so that I could align it properly with the new track. You can't see from this picture, but looking along the track shows that it's not quite right, so I'll relay the 12000mm curve beyond Indian Queens Halt when I fix the rest down permanently. I carried on round to Polperran road 6. In the bottom-right corner you can just see the step in the cork and the change from SMP to Peco code 75. I laid the Peco track all the way to the buffer stop. Behind the track is a temporary derailment fence, just resting on the joists. Next I did some testing (yes, seriously). I wanted to check how long a train would fit into Polperran headshunt, which is to within a millimetre or two the same length as road 6. The answer is a 2-8-0T, 14 china-clay wagons and a brake van. I therefore decided to do a load test, to make sure that both 42xx locos could pull the train up to Porthmellyn Road, including a standing start on the curved incline. This test was successful (in fact I did the load test with 15 wagons, to be sure, to be sure) so I will need to get some more Parkside kits to extend the Long Clay train. Then, as Clive @Clive Mortimore will be pleased to hear, it was time for some real FUN! I ran the long china-clay train all the way from St Enodoc to Polperran and back, with a few photo stops along the way. Here are the Down empties passing Wheal Veronica (where you can see the coal wagon and also an extra china-clay wagon, making 6) as it approaches Indian Queens Halt. The train has slowed for the curve round the Loop at Treloggan Junction and is now approaching Polperran. The first wagon is just about where the centre of the Barry slip will be. I remarshalled the train, turning the loco round so that the (fixed) Class K lamp is still at the front. The toe of the Barry slip, which defines the maximum train length, is about halfway along the piece of masking tape to the loco's left. The loco is just approaching the start of the gradient as it leaves Treloggan Junction Loop. The Up fulls are now all on the 1 in 100 as they pass Indian Queens Halt... ...and are now approaching the end of the climb at St Enodoc. That was a very enjoyable and satisfying session, particularly as a) everything ran very smoothly and b) I now know that I can run a 14-wagon train between "Tregissey" (Paddington) and "St Dennis Junction" (Polperran). Not sure what tomorrow will bring - possibly some electrical work at Wheal Veronica and on the new track. Watch this space. Edited June 29, 2022 by St Enodoc images restored 30 1 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: This morning I had my annual MOT with my cardiologist. As usual, he said he wants to see me again next year, from which I take comfort that he expects me to survive for at least another 12 months. Buoyed by that, I laid the temporary track into Polperran this afternoon. I made a mistake on Monday. I should have left the last few inches of track that I laid then floating, so that I could align it properly with the new track. You can't see from this picture, but looking along the track shows that it's not quite right, so I'll relay the 12000mm curve beyond Indian Queens Halt when I fix the rest down permanently. I carried on round to Polperran road 6. In the bottom-right corner you can just see the step in the cork and the change from SMP to Peco code 75. I laid the Peco track all the way to the buffer stop. Behind the track is a temporary derailment fence, just resting on the joists. Next I did some testing (yes, seriously). I wanted to check how long a train would fit into Polperran headshunt, which is to within a millimetre or two the same length as road 6. The answer is a 2-8-0T, 14 china-clay wagons and a brake van. I therefore decided to do a load test, to make sure that both 42xx locos could pull the train up to Porthmellyn Road, including a standing start on the curved incline. This test was successful (in fact I did the load test with 15 wagons, to be sure, to be sure) so I will need to get some more Parkside kits to extend the Long Clay train. Then, as Clive @Clive Mortimore will be pleased to hear, it was time for some real FUN! I ran the long china-clay train all the way from St Enodoc to Polperran and back, with a few photo stops along the way. Here are the Down empties passing Wheal Veronica (where you can see the coal wagon and also an extra china-clay wagon, making 6) as it approaches Indian Queens Halt. The train has slowed for the curve round the Loop at Treloggan Junction and is now approaching Polperran. The first wagon is just about where the centre of the Barry slip will be. I remarshalled the train, turning the loco round so that the (fixed) Class K lamp is still at the front. The toe of the Barry slip, which defines the maximum train length, is about halfway along the piece of masking tape to the loco's left. The loco is just approaching the start of the gradient as it leaves Treloggan Junction Loop. The Up fulls are now all on the 1 in 100 as they pass Indian Queens Halt... ...and are now approaching the end of the climb at St Enodoc. That was a very enjoyable and satisfying session, particularly as a) everything ran very smoothly and b) I know know that I can run a 14-wagon train between "Tregissey" (Paddington) and "St Dennis Junction" (Polperran). Not sure what tomorrow will bring - possibly some electrical work at Wheal Veronica and on the new track. Watch this space. Hi John It looks very good and I am pleased you had some fun running a train along the new branch. Well done. 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted August 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 6, 2021 Perhaps I could buy the china clay open, build it, number it then weather it to match the others? Let me know please/ Baz 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 6, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, Barry O said: Perhaps I could buy the china clay open, build it, number it then weather it to match the others? Let me know please/ Baz Thanks Baz. I'll be in touch by email. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted August 7, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2021 Today I did indeed put my electrical head on. First I installed the droppers and feeders on the three yards of new permanent permanent way. Those for the temporary permanent way will wait until it's become permanent. That didn't take long, so I built a little mounting board for the LM2596 voltage regulator and connected it up to the uncoupler power supply. Part of that involved running a long wire for the positive feed all the way round from Porthmellyn Junction. I didn't have enough thick cable for this so I used 16/0.2mm, which I think will be good enough for the current involved (approx 0.5A). I adjusted the regulator to give an output of 6V and, using some temporary jumpers, I tried out the magnet. It now has more oomph (technical term) than before, so I think it will be fine for shunting the short china-clay trains. Pentowan will have its own, independent, supply that won't need a regulator. I also moved the temporary Wheal Veronica point control panel from the edge of the Wheal Veronica trackbase to the outside of the single line. Now you don't have to reach across to operate it, which would create a collision risk. Next, I used Tippex to mark the two new uncouplers at St Enodoc and the one at Wheal Veronica and finally, to use up the last few minutes before the Bledisloe Cup match started, I started to mark out yet another offcut of ply for the SE-PT (main) line curve at Porthmellyn Junction. No photos today, as none of the above looks very exciting. A bits-and-pieces session but I'm pleased to have got several small, simple but important tasks done. Tomorrow? Who knows. 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: I didn't have enough thick cable for this so I used 16/0.2mm, which I think will be good enough for the current involved (approx 0.5A). 7/0.20mm is rated max 1A, 16/0.20mm is good for 3A so no worries there. Volts drop is likely to be more of an issue for a long run so 16/0.20mm will help with that. Paul. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Tomorrow? Who knows. Scenery? 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 7, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, TrevorP1 said: Scenery? Erm... . . . . . No. 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 7, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, 5BarVT said: 7/0.20mm is rated max 1A, 16/0.20mm is good for 3A so no worries there. Volts drop is likely to be more of an issue for a long run so 16/0.20mm will help with that. Paul. Thanks Paul. It's about a 20ft run but the voltage regulator at the end will work even if the input voltage drops a bit. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Erm... . . . . . No. Seems logical to me - surely the critical job is to get the track down and fully tested in everyday operation before mucking about with mucky stuff like scenery? 2 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Seems logical to me - surely the critical job is to get the track down and fully tested in everyday operation before mucking about with mucky stuff like scenery? Indeed. I see beautiful layouts on RMweb where the scenery and structures are to die for - but the operational scope and hence interest is decidedly limited. Those builders know what they want from our hobby, but their priorities are not mine. Make it work, run a timetable, then worry about scenics. St E has a mega system under construction. If the scenery is a little late, his operations crews may never notice. 3 13 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2021 4 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Seems logical to me - surely the critical job is to get the track down and fully tested in everyday operation before mucking about with mucky stuff like scenery? 2 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Indeed. I see beautiful layouts on RMweb where the scenery and structures are to die for - but the operational scope and hence interest is decidedly limited. Those builders know what they want from our hobby, but their priorities are not mine. Make it work, run a timetable, then worry about scenics. St E has a mega system under construction. If the scenery is a little late, his operations crews may never notice. I was only joking Mister! 1 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted August 8, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) Another odds-and-ends afternoon today. The first job was to have a good run round with the Dyson to clear up all the mess from the last few weeks' woodworking. Once that was done, I connected up the Wheal Veronica uncoupler to the voltage regulator. Not as elegant as @Harlequin Phil's installation but it works. As well as fitting a biased toggle switch for the uncoupler, I changed the point switch from the temporary toggle switch to a rotary switch, as at Porthmellyn Road. The panel is still temporary, and will stay that way until I make the fascia here, but everything is now working in its final form. The last job today was to trim the Treloggan Junction "main" line trackbase and do a trial fit with the template (@Keith Addenbrooke will be pleased to see that I've corrected the labels). Everything seems to fit so I'll fit some extra joists before I line everything up finally here. Edited July 10, 2022 by St Enodoc images restored 33 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted August 12, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 During the evenings this week I've made a start on two of the points for Treloggan Junction, namely the ones at the St Enodoc and Polperran ends. These are almost standard A5 RH points, except that I have set them out with a continuous curve through the crossing on the diverging route and also the start of the curve in the opposite direction on the through route. That should let them match up to the alignment as designed. I've stuck all the timbers down on the the point templates and filed two sets of point, splice and switch rails so I'm all ready to go with assembly. That's more of an evening job, so might not get done until early next week. Over the weekend I plan to set out the remaining trackbase for Treloggan Junction and install it with its associated joists. 23 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted August 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2021 Somewhat out of your era, but possibly interesting/useful none the less: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/66035-class-08-shunter-prototype-photos/&do=findComment&comment=4527840 3 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 12, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Stubby47 said: Somewhat out of your era, but possibly interesting/useful none the less: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/66035-class-08-shunter-prototype-photos/&do=findComment&comment=4527840 Thanks Stu. Nice photos to give some colour context. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted August 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Stubby47 said: Somewhat out of your era, but possibly interesting/useful none the less: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/66035-class-08-shunter-prototype-photos/&do=findComment&comment=4527840 The photo with the shunter sandwiched in between two rakes of clay hoods gives an indication of the shunting process used at the Wenford dries. Probably a different situation though compared to what you have at Wheal Veronica, re: gradients? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post St Enodoc Posted August 13, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) Good progress at Treloggan Junction this afternoon. First, I trimmed the end of the main line trackbase and joined it up at the St Enodoc end to the existing trackbase. However, at the Pentowan end there's nothing for it to join up to yet, so I set out a datum point to fix the alignment. In the bottom-left corner you can see a straight line perpendicular to the track centre line with a small circle where they intersect. This circle marks a spot exactly 1120mm from the end of the Polperran L-girders and 160mm from the edge of the Polperran trackbase. From this datum I used the card templates to draw the 30" radius curve of the main line, which is now fixed so I inked it in. This view shows how the main line curves round towards Pentowan station. It also shows, in pencil, roughly where the point at the Pentowan end will go. I rested three of the Polperran points in position to show how the tracks relate to each other. Once I've cut a piece of ply to fill the gap between Pentowan and Polperran, I'll be able to ink in the rest of the track centre-lines and point locations. Treloggan Junction signal box will sit on the wider piece of ply between the main line and the branch. As part of all this I fixed more joists and risers to the L-girders and to the trackbase, so that I could remove all the various clamps that were holding everything together. Most of these joists are over-length so that I can cut them back once I decide exactly where the edge of the scenic are should be. Edited June 29, 2022 by St Enodoc images restored 22 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted August 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2021 Glad that you can get 2 by 1 and Ply in Oz. Trying to find it here is a bit like finding rocking horse droppings! Trackbed is really coming along... by the time we can visit Oz again it should be all up and running! (no pressure there then!) Baz 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 13, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chamby said: The photo with the shunter sandwiched in between two rakes of clay hoods gives an indication of the shunting process used at the Wenford dries. Probably a different situation though compared to what you have at Wheal Veronica, re: gradients? That's right Phil. The line rose steadily from Dunmere Junction and the track layouts at Wenford and Wenford Bridge were more complex than at Carbis (Wheal Veronica), with loops and more sidings. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 13, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2021 Just now, Barry O said: Glad that you can get 2 by 1 and Ply in Oz. Trying to find it here is a bit like finding rocking horse droppings! Trackbed is really coming along... by the time we can visit Oz again it should be all up and running! (no pressure there then!) Baz It's available but I can't go and get it until lockdown eases. I could order it online but when I buy wood I like to see what I'm getting first. It's not a problem - there are plenty of other things to get on with. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted August 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2021 What fine work, so complex and intricate. Love the smooth flowing curves. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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