Trev52A Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) First Class 800 at Newcastle? (No doubt someone can correct this if I've missed a test run or something!) NO IT ISN'T - see Post 3854 below In LNER Azuma livery but with no identification marks as such, on a platform outside the Discovery Museum, Newcastle yesterday (22nd June). Makes a startling contrast with Stephenson's 'Rocket' which is on display inside the building, on loan from the Science Museum in London, as part of the attractions for the 'Great Exhibition of the North' which runs until 9th September across Newcastle and Gateshead. Trevor Edited to answer my own question - thanks to eastwestdivide for the information. Edited June 23, 2018 by Trev52A 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Having noticed the occasional 9-car IET on the Western recently, I see that they are running using the leading pantograph, which makes an interesting contrast with the WCML Pendolino sets, where it is always the trailing pantograph that is used. I understood the logic for that was that if there was a dewirement or other damage to the pantograph, at least the leading one, by virtue of being lowered and ahead of the damage, could remain usable. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Having noticed the occasional 9-car IET on the Western recently, I see that they are running using the leading pantograph, which makes an interesting contrast with the WCML Pendolino sets, where it is always the trailing pantograph that is used. I understood the logic for that was that if there was a dewirement or other damage to the pantograph, at least the leading one, by virtue of being lowered and ahead of the damage, could remain usable. Jim But the Western region/GWR always had to be different didnt they, maybe its just a continuation of that! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 First Class 800 at Newcastle? (No doubt someone can correct this if I've missed a test run or something!) ... They've already been through on test runs, in February even to Inverness (see http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/new-intercity-express-train-reaches-inverness-depot-for-testing for example) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 They've already been through on test runs, in February even to Inverness (see http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/new-intercity-express-train-reaches-inverness-depot-for-testing for example) Thanks for the information. I have updated my post accordingly. Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted June 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2018 But the Western region/GWR always had to be different didnt they, maybe its just a continuation of that! I suppose that depends on how they run on LNER... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Having noticed the occasional 9-car IET on the Western recently, I see that they are running using the leading pantograph, which makes an interesting contrast with the WCML Pendolino sets, where it is always the trailing pantograph that is used. I understood the logic for that was that if there was a dewirement or other damage to the pantograph, at least the leading one, by virtue of being lowered and ahead of the damage, could remain usable. Jim I had heard that the direction of the elbow had an impact on the dynamics of the pan/OLE interface, though I don't know if there reversed with respect to each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I suppose that depends on how they run on LNER... Up slow Up fast Down fast Down slow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2018 Up slow Up fast Down fast Down slow If you're coming south ... ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted June 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2018 I had heard that the direction of the elbow had an impact on the dynamics of the pan/OLE interface, though I don't know if there reversed with respect to each other. Locomotives seem to manage with just one pantograph, don't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Yeah, it's not a "you can't do that", it's a "it's slightly preferable if you do this", at least as far as I remember hearing. It's also possible that it's a false memory and no such preference exists. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 First Class 800 at Newcastle? (No doubt someone can correct this if I've missed a test run or something!) NO IT ISN'T - see Post 3854 below (IMG_2990a) Newcastle 22-6-18 (T.E.) .jpg In LNER Azuma livery but with no identification marks as such, on a platform outside the Discovery Museum, Newcastle yesterday (22nd June). Makes a startling contrast with Stephenson's 'Rocket' which is on display inside the building, on loan from the Science Museum in London, as part of the attractions for the 'Great Exhibition of the North' which runs until 9th September across Newcastle and Gateshead. Trevor Edited to answer my own question - thanks to eastwestdivide for the information. I was kind of hoping that the azuma name would go with VTEC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium HillsideDepot Posted June 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2018 The 9-car 800/3s have started work on Bristol services, although they may be "Saturdays Only" at the moment. 800304 arrives at Chippenham with 1C08 0930 Paddington - Temple Meads A few minutes later 800305 arrives with 1A13 1030 Temple Meads - Paddington. I travelled on 305 to Didcot (for the Swindon Panel event) and made sure I travelled in a trailer. Whilst there was no change in noise when moving off, the air conditioning fan rumbling away more than compensated for engine/motor noise. For all the noise the coach was hot and stuffy. Even with 9-cars the service had a full seated load, with some standing. We didn't see the trolley, and the electronic reservations weren't working. After a great day at Didcot Railway Centre I came home on 800031+800005 on 1C20 1530 Paddington to Weston-super-Mare, with no reservations indicated and no trolley. But at least the air-con was cooling the coach. I think 800307 was also in service, but its bit of a distance from the main demonstration line platform to the Down Main at Didcot Parkway to be 100% sure. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I was kind of hoping that the azuma name would go with VTEC. Worst still, it's written larger and more boldly .......if the livery on that driving car is anything to go by. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 If you're coming south ... ... Yes. I grew up to the east of the line, so that is how I always viewed it. I can't imagine the down slow being nearest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted June 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2018 Worst still, it's written larger and more boldly .......if the livery on that driving car is anything to go by. . Well, given that they seem to have covered over the windows, I hope that's not the livery they are planning on running them in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2018 But the Western region/GWR always had to be different didnt they, maybe its just a continuation of that! I'm surprised they haven't got copper capped pantographs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I'm surprised they haven't got copper capped pantographs! The pan has a copper strip on top, does that count? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Well, given that they seem to have covered over the windows, I hope that's not the livery they are planning on running them in. Is it all the windows or just the blanked off windows in the galley area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Up slow Up fast Down fast Down slow Well, the GREAT Western doesn't have any 'slow' lines, so they are sure to do things differently - Down main, Up main, down relief, up relief. Mustn't use the word 'slow'! (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Well, the GREAT Western doesn't have any 'slow' lines, so they are sure to do things differently - Down main, Up main, down relief, up relief. Mustn't use the word 'slow'! (CJL) I keep doing that (I am ex Southern) and Boy do they have a hissy fit about it! Edited June 24, 2018 by royaloak 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Well, given that they seem to have covered over the windows, I hope that's not the livery they are planning on running them in. Those are not windows - that's the crew area and buffet behind there. (CJL) I keep doing that (I am ex Southern) and Boy do they have a hissy fit about it! I should think so, too! Outrageous! (CJL) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) The pan has a copper strip on top, does that count?I'm sure there's copper in the pan, but the contact strip is usually carbon Edited June 24, 2018 by Zomboid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Relief lines. Isn't that what they were called before the introduction of retention toilets? Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Well, the GREAT Western doesn't have any 'slow' lines, so they are sure to do things differently - Down main, Up main, down relief, up relief. Mustn't use the word 'slow'! (CJL)Being the GWR, "Slow" and "Slower" would be the accurate way to describe things... (Insert "this is clearly a joke" smiley here). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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