RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, DonB said: survivors of a Paint gun battle? Or survivors of the Ovine "Tour d France"! Chris H 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post NHY 581 Posted July 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2021 55 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: The presence of a Prairie tank loco on a proposed sheepbloke layout is interesting and of potentially significant potential significance. Evening all. It is with regret that I have to report that the Prairie is to be returned as being not fit for purpose. A period of running this evening has failed to improve matters and as such I have advised the vendor forthwith. Setting aside that this was a loco knowingly purchased second hand, reflecting on the issues I have had this year, I am beginning to lose patience with 4mm rtr locos...............Utterly frustrated by it all. I do not think I am expecting too much. Simply smooth, slow running locos. Is it too much to ask? Honestly, the way I feel at present, this next layout could well be my last. ( rant over ) Rob. 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2021 I have to say that we used to get a steady stream of returns at Trackshack of locos with tight spots. Usually Bachmann, less often Hornby, they just fell to bits.... It is exactly your issue that caused me to defect to USA modelling way back, early diesel era, as the locos all ran simply superbly and were cheaper. 20 years later, they're better in the UK now, but far from perfect still. I wanted a return to UK practice, So - O gauge. Superb running fromDapol, Minerva, Lionheart, but less good, my kit built industrial! 1 2 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said: It is exactly your issue that caused me to defect to USA modelling way back, early diesel era, as the locos all ran simply superbly and were cheaper. 20 years later, they're better in the UK now, but far from perfect still. I did the same in the 1990s....the US stuff was a revelation..I'm back now but I have a box of BR duds....when you take your trainset to a show you have to have stuff you can rely on.... Edited July 15, 2021 by Gilbert 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Honestly, the way I feel at present, this next layout could well be my last. I hope not.... 1 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said: So - O gauge. Superb running fromDapol, Minerva, Lionheart, but less good, my kit built industrial! Totally agree, all the O Gauge "out of the box loco's" I've purchased have been faultless to date, and the kit built models in my stock, if built with care can be just as good especially with the use of Messrs, Slaters wheels / axles. If kits are chosen with care then you can have something to be proud of building. Considering the cost of O Gauge locomotives now and the prices of a OO Gauge being very close I for one am extremely pleased to have taken the leap to "BIG BOYS" toys. Just for interest here is my Scorpio Kit of an Armstrong Goods in its raw state on some Peco test track using Slaters wheels etc built on a simple jig.... Edited July 15, 2021 by bgman video clip added 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, bgman said: Totally agree, all the O Gauge "out of the box loco's" I've purchased have been faultless to date, and the kit built models in my stock, if built with care can be just as good especially with the use of Messrs, Slaters wheels / axles. If kits are chosen with care then you can have something to be proud of building. Considering the cost of O Gauge locomotives now and the prices of a OO Gauge being very close I for one am extremely pleased to have taken the leap to "BIG BOYS" toys. I am of course awaiting the release of the 7mm Dapol B4....... The 4mm versions are quite exceptional and , along with the Hattons P class, are the yardstick by which others are measured. Rob. 2 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, NHY 581 said: I am of course awaiting the release of the 7mm Dapol B4....... The 4mm versions are quite exceptional and , along with the Hattons P class, are the yardstick by which others are measured. Rob. It stirs! and in other news....I think an 02 diesel almost counts a kettle...tight curves.....older wagons....just saying... Edited July 15, 2021 by Gilbert 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: I am of course awaiting the release of the 7mm Dapol B4....... I don't think you will be disappointed mate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2021 The Dapol 350....what the young ones call an 08....has simply superb running qualities. The Pannier is fine, couldn't wish for more, but the 350 just is magnificent. 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2021 The 08 weathers up nicely as well... 8 1 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I must admit that I am dubious about buying any new RTR locomotive, as all you seem to hear is bad reports. I like to keep it simple, so have no interest in going DCC and the advantages don't seem to outweigh the cost in my opinion. I too am rather taken with O gauge, because of the higher level of detail that can be achieved. Unfortunately I have neither the room or funds to build the kind of layout that I can in 4mm. I think that I have found a kind of happy medium in buying and modifying older locomotives that for all their faults at least work and running them on a layout that (hopefully) I won't get bored with too quickly. If manufacturers don't sort things out, I fear that selling to the collector market won't be enough to keep them in business. Strangely, the only new locomotive I have is the diesel railcar and it performs faultlessly, even on my dodgy track. Though I suspect that the simple mechanism has a lot to do with it. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted July 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2021 Usually diesels were never an problem - only steam locos - tight spots being the usual issue. And detail bits dropping off Hornby ones. Oh how I don't miss dealing with their returns system! 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Someone said sheep can't drive cars. But you can get a shelf layout in a sidecar. 5 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post NHY 581 Posted July 16, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 Morning all. After a somewhat pessimistic end to yesterday, we awake with a renewed sense of optimism. The recalcitrant prairie will be posted back today and things can move on in the meantime. Hopefully this weekend I can collect a couple of lengths of plain track and that should get the party started....... Rob. 11 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2021 14 hours ago, NHY 581 said: I do not think I am expecting too much. Simply smooth, slow running locos. Is it too much to ask? I think you know the answer to that, Rob! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2021 I have several panniers & prairies in GWR livery and don't recall any issues with slow running. Is it the livery that's at fault ? 1 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Stubby47 said: I have several panniers & prairies in GWR livery and don't recall any issues with slow running. Is it the livery that's at fault ? It's a possibility, although I have a Prairie that started off with an early crest BR black body, it now has a pre 1934 GWR green body and it runs just fine. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post 2ManySpams Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 Delivery just arrived from the sheep pens... And a few more of the cameo And as there's always folk asking about track plans... 21 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2021 I've entitled this photo "Trouble at dries" I'm sure that the newcomer will receive a warm welcome back at shed...unless an 'accident' happens on the way there. 9 1 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post 2ManySpams Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 Nobody saw nuffink 1 1 17 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2021 When I first changed to 0 gauge I bought a Pannier from someone who was selling them as RTR models. It ran reasonably compared to 00 locos I felt. However when I took the layout to an exhibition being short of stock Alan Brackenborough loaned me a scratch built 633 and a coach. The loco was a beauttiful model and more importantly ran exceptionaly well pull away gently at a low speed, never derailed or stuttered in a two day show. I thought thats what I need first class running. My good friend Steve Naylor built a white metal kit for me a dock tank. Well actually I found out he had replaced much of the whitemetal parts as too lumpy and cut new from NS. He put a ABC motor gearbox in it and achieved the same first class running. Personally operating a layout is a big part of the fun for me. Don 5 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: Very nice Chris. Peco/Parkside wagons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: Nobody saw nuffink You been watching "Titfield Thunderbolt" again ? 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: Very nice Chris. Peco/Parkside wagons? I think they probably are. Got new buffers for them somewhere. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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