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1 hour ago, 2ManySpams said:

 

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My dad - who had done a proper trade apprenticeship as a carpenter & joiner - always told me that tools should be looked after properly and should always be cleaned after use - that way they will last for years.  I still have the adze he was using back in his apprenticeship days (not that i use the vicious thing) plus a saw he bought new in the 1930s when he went as a Journeyman. 

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My dad was also a carpenter & joiner and I have some of his tools, as does my brother in Queensland.

 

The only ones I use much are a couple of planes and his favourite chisels, some of which he'd sharpened so many times that they are down to about half their original length. He also sharpened and set saws, which these days is I presume must be a lost art. He used to do it for the other chippies at the firm he worked for, which was a useful source of a little extra income.

 

A pal of mine has saws inherited from his grandfather that must be over 100 years old, and fancied teaching himself to do it so I've passed dad's saws and the tools on to him. I don't have the patience to get beyond the cheap modern disposable sort!  

 

My latest resurrection has been dad's Stanley "Yankee" pump-action ratchet screwdriver, unused for decades because I couldn't get new tips for it. A couple of years ago, I managed to acquire an adaptor to take today's hex-drive bits, which he would have loved. A dangerous beast though, especially with slotted-head screws, until you get the hang of using it.

 

My step-father (87) has just decided his angle grinder has become too much of a handful for him and has passed it on to me, which saves me borrowing it! 

 

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25 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

He also sharpened and set saws, which these days is I presume must be a lost art. He used to do it for the other chippies at the firm he worked for, which was a useful source of a little extra income.

 

Apparently most modern saws are impossible to sharpen and set, due to the hardening that's done during manufacture. 

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2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

My dad - who had done a proper trade apprenticeship as a carpenter & joiner - always told me that tools should be looked after properly and should always be cleaned after use - that way they will last for years.  I still have the adze he was using back in his apprenticeship days (not that i use the vicious thing) plus a saw he bought new in the 1930s when he went as a Journeyman. 

 

Better?

 

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In my defence I should point out it was in use.

 

(It's also a multi-tool not an angle grinder - one of the most versatile and useful tools I have)

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1 minute ago, Nick C said:

Apparently most modern saws are impossible to sharpen and set, due to the hardening that's done during manufacture. 

 

It's been that way for about forty years now since the appearance of the 'Jet cut' type saws as you say. I have some very nice old tenon saws by Robert Sorby that can be reset. I have a setting tool that is beautifully made out of bronze, but it's not something that I use very often as I do very little woodworking now (I used to do quite a bit of furniture renovation, but got sick of antique dealers trying to chip the price down with that "How much to me?" attitude.) You can still buy the type of saws that I have brand new, but they will set you back over £250. 

Yes, people collect them and never use them! :D

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A friend of mine keeps buying modern saws that look clean off the car boot for a few pounds and moaning that they're rubbish. I told him to go spend £6 on a brand new Irwin from the DIY shop.  

He did and now knows why you don't buy saws off the car boot unless they're vintage jobs and you can set them.

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3 hours ago, MrWolf said:

A friend of mine keeps buying modern saws that look clean off the car boot for a few pounds and moaning that they're rubbish. I told him to go spend £6 on a brand new Irwin from the DIY shop.  

He did and now knows why you don't buy saws off the car boot unless they're vintage jobs and you can set them.

 

The same for old chisels compared to modern ones. A carpenter friend was telling me that old chisels are much prised. My local builders merchant was selling packs of 10 saws  a while back for the trade they are just throw away once the edge goes. 

 

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Morning all. 

 

Modelling is definitely still on the back burner at present but there are signs  of a thaw with more time becoming available once this weekend is out of the way. 

 

Sad but true, I'm looking forward to settling back into my usual 8'til 4, Mon/Fri. 

 

However, I'm off to work shortly to start a 9 'til midnight shift with a similar shift tomorrow.  Once these are out of the way, I can return to some degree of normality. 

 

On a positive, I managed a trip to the train shop yesterday, the first for some considerable time. No purchases of note to report but nice to catch up and empty my head of work, albeit for a short time. 

 

Something did catch my eye but I was a very brave and responsible sheep..............for now........

 

Rob. 

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12 hours ago, MrWolf said:

(I used to do quite a bit of furniture renovation, but got sick of antique dealers trying to chip the price down with that "How much to me?" attitude.) 

I'm hoping the conversation went something like this:

 

Price: £250

Dealer: How much to me?

Wolf: £300 - nah, tell ya what, as it's you, I'll do it for £400...

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1 hour ago, keefr2 said:

 

I can barely stay awake from 9 till midnight these days....

 

Keith

 

I like a kip around lunchtime.  I got discovered by one of our apprentices the other day, who wondered who the 'homeless guy' was sleeping on the floor of the furniture store (all vertical unfortunately).  I will learn him proper in the coming months :good_mini:

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36 minutes ago, Tim Dubya said:

 

I like a kip around lunchtime.  I got discovered by one of our apprentices the other day, who wondered who the 'homeless guy' was sleeping on the floor of the furniture store (all vertical unfortunately).  I will learn him proper in the coming months :good_mini:

Can't beat a lunchtime kip, used to be especially helpful when I worked all day then went out on a gig or socialising until the early hours. I grew up in a family where a 'power nap' is perfectly normal as we have all worked long hours.

 

Martyn

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38 minutes ago, mullie said:

Can't beat a lunchtime kip, used to be especially helpful when I worked all day then went out on a gig or socialising until the early hours. I grew up in a family where a 'power nap' is perfectly normal as we have all worked long hours.

 

Martyn

When I was at primary school we all had to lie down in silence after lunch for what seemed like an eternity but was probably about 20 minutes. I hated it.

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42 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:

When I was at primary school we all had to lie down in silence after lunch for what seemed like an eternity but was probably about 20 minutes. I hated it.

We used to get that in the first year at Infants school.  By the time I got to my final year in school -  Sixth Form at grammar school - my after lunch time on Wednesday (sports afternoon) in the summer was to spend a similar amount of time in the pub which was next door to the boathouse where our school racing boat was kept.  I did not lie down in the pub but leant on the bar instead ;)

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16 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

We used to get that in the first year at Infants school.  By the time I got to my final year in school -  Sixth Form at grammar school - my after lunch time on Wednesday (sports afternoon) in the summer was to spend a similar amount of time in the pub which was next door to the boathouse where our school racing boat was kept.  I did not lie down in the pub but leant on the bar instead ;)

 

It sounds like we both went to the same school!

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On 01/10/2021 at 02:19, St Enodoc said:

Before you ballast, put some dummy sleepers under those rail joints Rob!

 

Patched up! Thanks for the reminder, I really ought to make a jobs list!

 

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