RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted November 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2021 I do like the thinned down, hook removed tension lock - would a simple wire loop work as well, or is this just to retain the NEM pocket fitting? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ramblin Rich said: I do like the thinned down, hook removed tension lock - would a simple wire loop work as well, or is this just to retain the NEM pocket fitting? Don't encourage him.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 22, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, Ramblin Rich said: I do like the thinned down, hook removed tension lock - would a simple wire loop work as well, or is this just to retain the NEM pocket fitting? Evening Ramblers, Thanks for the encouragement. I've retained the NEM Pocket for convenience. I'm going to do the rear TL as well. First impressions are that it works fine. More shunting required methinks..... Rob. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, NHY 581 said: I'm yet to set up and give it a whirl. I have located a couple of chips to pop into two locos to see how it goes and will of course report back in due course. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 22/11/2021 at 06:31, NHY 581 said: a spare NCE system to try for myself Rob I do have some bad news.....performance of the DCC system will be better if you "re*d th* inst**ct*ons"......sorry....(not all of them obviously) Chris 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 23, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2021 57 minutes ago, Gilbert said: Rob I do have some bad news.....performance of the DCC system will be better if you "re*d th* inst**ct*ons"......sorry....(not all of them obviously) Chris Morning Chris, I'll get the Memsahib to do it. She's the first point of contact for anything to do with that sort of thing. Rob. 2 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: Morning Chris, I'll get the Memsahib to do it. She's the first point of contact for anything to do with that sort of thing. Rob. Good move, if it all goes up in smoke you can't be blamed for it ! 1 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted November 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2021 Surely, it will be his fault regardless of who read the instructions? 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2021 "Who let the smoke out?" 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Gilbert said: "Who let the smoke out?" As anyone who has worked with radios will tell you, they are all secretly powered by smoke. Once the smoke is seen to escape, it stops working. 2 1 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Morning Chris, I'll get the Memsahib to do it. She's the first point of contact for anything to do with that sort of thing. Rob. Mine is the go to for analysing fault finding sequences in manuals. Female logic is the only thing capable of making sense of even Haynes manuals. Of course, if it goes wrong, it's still your fault, you are the one executing the given instruction. Also if a man concedes an argument and admits that the woman is right... Is he still wrong? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted November 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Gilbert said: "Who let the smoke out?" [to the tune of 'Who let the dogs out"...] "Who let the smoke out? Cough, Cough, Cough-cough" 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2021 13 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Morning Chris, I'll get the Memsahib to do it. She's the first point of contact for anything to do with that sort of thing. Rob. How's that going to work out when you run your DCC workshop at SWAG? Plans must already be afoot....or so I've heard.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 23, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Gilbert said: How's that going to work out when you run your DCC workshop at SWAG? Plans must already be afoot....or so I've heard.. Oh dear.......I can barely tie my shoe laces 1 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, NHY 581 said: Oh dear.......I can barely tie my shoe laces I'll dig out the manual.... 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Gilbert said: I'll dig out the manual.... Also make certain its a double room when you book the accommodation as the missus will need somewhere to sleep as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Gilbert said: I'll dig out the manual.... 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: Oh dear.......I can barely tie my shoe laces Take your time Rob, you can't really mess things up too much and there is always a "get out route" with decoder settings once you get to that stage, in the mean time enjoy the new experience. G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted November 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2021 @NHY 581 if you’ve not got a set of rollers, track not hair, a circle of 3rd radius is a good starting point for learning basic DCC skills. This can become your ‘program track’ and a simple test track to get your head round how the loco reacts to control inputs. 6 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne 37901 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, bgman said: Take your time Rob, you can't really mess things up too much and there is always a "get out route" with decoder settings once you get to that stage, in the mean time enjoy the new experience. G Damn! If only you could tie your shoelaces with DCC when I was a kid as it did take me a little while to learn. I'll get my coat... Edited November 24, 2021 by Wayne 37901 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, PMP said: @NHY 581 if you’ve not got a set of rollers, track not hair, a circle of 3rd radius is a good starting point for learning basic DCC skills. This can become your ‘program track’ and a simple test track to get your head round how the loco reacts to control inputs. Thanks ,Paul. I'm starting to understand the basics, ish. This whole DCC thingy has come at quite an opportune moment, what with Project X being at the point that it is. Regarding the program track, I'm in the process of re-assessing the fiddle yard anyway and could place a stand alone length of track here for that purpose. However, the idea of a separate circle of track is good. I have just such a thing used for running in/ testing locos and as things are at present, the NCE power cab as kindly loaned by Chris H is 'mobile' so I can plug it in anywhere. That said, a set of rollers is also on the cards. It would seem to be easy enough to make them dual DC/DCC compatable. Rob Edited November 24, 2021 by NHY 581 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Thanks ,Paul. I'm starting to understand the basics, ish. This whole DCC thingy has come at quite an opportune moment, what with Project X being at the point that it is. Regarding the program track, I'm in the process of re-assessing the fiddle yard anyway and could place a stand alone length of track here for that purpose. However, the idea of a separate circle of track is good. I have just such a thing used for running in/ testing locos and as things are at present, the NCE power cab as kindly loaned by Chris H is 'mobile' so I can plug it in anywhere. That said, a set of rollers is also on the cards. It would seem to be easy enough to make them dual DC/DCC compatable. Rob For your purposes Rob, I think the provision of a separate programming track is more than you need: as you will normally only have one-engine-in-steam, as it were, then "progamming-on-the-main" is sufficient. If you had a big layout with lots of locos, then a programming track is a safeguard against applying settings to the wrong loco, but if you only have one loco sitting on the layout it's not necessary. And I would heartily recommend getting a set of rollers, using them means you can set speed settings and other DCC things without fear of the loco suddenly making a dive for freedom off the end of your track, plus you can run new locos in for extended periods without it going anywhere. The rollers just rest on top of a straight piece of track, so will work equally well for DC and DCC, no fiddling required. Al. 4 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Alister_G said: For your purposes Rob, I think the provision of a separate programming track is more than you need: as you will normally only have one-engine-in-steam, as it were, then "progamming-on-the-main" is sufficient. If you had a big layout with lots of locos, then a programming track is a safeguard against applying settings to the wrong loco, but if you only have one loco sitting on the layout it's not necessary. And I would heartily recommend getting a set of rollers, using them means you can set speed settings and other DCC things without fear of the loco suddenly making a dive for freedom off the end of your track, plus you can run new locos in for extended periods without it going anywhere. The rollers just rest on top of a straight piece of track, so will work equally well for DC and DCC, no fiddling required. Al. Morning Al. Well explained, thank you. As I mentioned earlier, a set of rollers are on the list and have been for a little while actually. I've just never got round to it. You make perfect sense. I intend to keep this DCC marlarky sheep simple to start with. Rob. Edited November 24, 2021 by NHY 581 Auto correct not sheep simple 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simontaylor484 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Well I disappear for a few weeks I come back and Rob has gone DCC whatever next. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, simontaylor484 said: Well I disappear for a few weeks I come back and Rob has gone DCC whatever next. So you've missed his Union Pacific inspired Gauge 1 live steam mainline in his garden then Edited November 24, 2021 by woodenhead spelling 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 07/11/2021 at 23:42, MrWolf said: That's like..... The thin end of the wedge, man.... Diesels, DCC... I give you The Prophecies of NostraLupus.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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