RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) That's a shame, because (and this is a long, long shot) I have just found that D856 did work 1V72 the 0733 Liverpool to Paignton forward from Temple Meads on Saturday 23rd August 1969. It then worked the empty stock to NA and was stabled on the depot. Edited; to say, furthermore - D807 worked 1V68 from Bristol that day, which was the 0830 Nottingham to Paignton, so would most likely have been at NA as well later in the day. D845 is unlikely (if this madness is correct) because it worked the 1135 Kingswear to Paddington throughout, so probably spent the night at Old Oak Common. D852 was in store at NA at that time. Returning to yesterday's debate on Warships - noticed this on eBay today, D854 at Newton Abbott, in 1969 what a wonderful shot. Edit - assuming this is the right end 854 has data panels above the number, not like my photo. 852 therefore still favourite.If 852 was in store, wouldn't it have been in the old works shed, I remember D1014 plus a few others being put in store there a bit later? http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=111589185742 Neil Edited February 8, 2015 by Downendian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 If D852 was inside the works shed, then I would not have seen it so many times on my travels through the station. The problem is that The Book Of The Warships lists 852 as stored at LA between 25th May and 26th Aug, which hardly explains how I have it down in my notebook at NA on 19th, 21st, 22nd and 26th of that month. I could not have misread the number that many times, surely; and it must have been in the open for me to see it from the train/platform. I presume that it was stored serviceable and like D842 (the other 43 that I have as stored NA) could have been reinstated in a short time if the need arose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) If D852 was inside the works shed, then I would not have seen it so many times on my travels through the station. The problem is that The Book Of The Warships lists 852 as stored at LA between 25th May and 26th Aug, which hardly explains how I have it down in my notebook at NA on 19th, 21st, 22nd and 26th of that month. I could not have misread the number that many times, surely; and it must have been in the open for me to see it from the train/platform. I presume that it was stored serviceable and like D842 (the other 43 that I have as stored NA) could have been reinstated in a short time if the need arose? Sorry Jonny, I hadn't twigged that you'd actually seen 852 "in the open" so to speak. It has pretty much has sealed it for me, the two warships behind 856 are 807 and 852 (caveat emptor).Neil Edited February 8, 2015 by Downendian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 And taken mid morning on Sunday 24th August 1969. This is when "Kenton" reappears and tells us he actually took the photo at 11.59 on 1st April 1969 and the other Warships are D827 and D849.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 A very historic shot Phil! Just wish I knew the other Warships in the photo though. Neil Second one is Caradoc, green one is Sprightly by my uneducated deductions. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Oh no. Not again. I thought we discounted D845 as it would have been at Old Oak Common? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Think I'll go back to the Brio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Back from Monmouth!Neil has very kindly sent a high res scan of the D856 picture and I refer you back to post 150 above m'lud!Is that a data panel?What do Mark and Martin's records show D854 as working that weekend Neil?CheersPhil Edited to remove incorrect link Edited February 8, 2015 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 The ebay picture of 854 in 1969 Phil shows it piloting a failed Western, at Newton Abbott, complete with guess what blue data panel. The patterns of muck along the White mid body band look similar too. I wonder, just wonder if these pics are from the same roll of film! Neil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) I nearly posted a wish earlier for Mr Tiger Viking to come along and add his sixpennyworth Despite not being on here for a while he happened to drop in on this thread and guess what - he has a copy of the slide, has blown it up on screen and had already come to the opinion it was D854! The evidence is building perhaps? Phil Edited February 8, 2015 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) I have a feeling the original copyright slide was bought from the same ebay seller -transport topics, will check. Edit no it was Strathwood -bought the same time as the slide of D831. Neil Edited February 8, 2015 by Downendian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 A little light relief as this is a modelling website. Now back to the 852/854 saga..... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 Two can play at that game Peter. More prototype photos to post tomorrow, just sorting them through Neil 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) So two questions: 1. What was D854 working on 23rd/24th Aug'69? 2. Did 852 also have a data panel? The jury waits..... Edited February 8, 2015 by Peter Kazmierczak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2015 Mr TV says not Peter - cant find a picture of her in 1969 at the moment though.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 In case anyone needs it for modelling purposes, here is a close up of the consist - d1054_w_waltham_5_76_copy.jpg Hi guys, love this piccie but please could someone confirm what the second and third vehicles are for me, I am ok with the others. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hi guys, love this piccie but please could someone confirm what the second and third vehicles are for me, I am ok with the others. Best wishes Simon They're both Siphon Gs that have had the louvres partially or completely, sheeted over. The nearer one is a BR-built one, identifiable because of those sliding ventilators between the doors. The other one is a GWR-built one which had the louvres plated over for use in a Hospital Train in WW2; you'll notice it also has roof vents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hi guys, love this piccie but please could someone confirm what the second and third vehicles are for me, I am ok with the others. Best wishes Simon GWR Siphon Gs, which came in lots of varieties. W1047 by robertcwp, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) So two questions: 1. What was D854 working on 23rd/24th Aug'69? 2. Did 852 also have a data panel? The jury waits..... I have no info for D854 on 23rd or 24th. I didn't see it at Exeter on the 23rd, and I had a railway-day-off on 24th. However, on the Martin/Mark info that I have - for Friday 23rd it states - - D854, M/R (Teddington c/w switches defective). But I am not sure precisely what that means in terms of availability. Edited February 9, 2015 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2015 They're both Siphon Gs that have had the louvres partially or completely, sheeted over. The nearer one is a BR-built one, identifiable because of those sliding ventilators between the doors. The other one is a GWR-built one which had the louvres plated over for use in a Hospital Train in WW2; you'll notice it also has roof vents. They will almost certainly have been in use as newspaper packing vans, especially as they are marshalled immediately next to a BSK - with which they would normally work on a newspaper train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Good morning -some more before embarking down the M5. First D7000 leads a line of three withdrawn Hymeks at Old Oak Common, May 1974 Next a former avatar, that I used when first joined RMweb, 813 Diadem at Truro in the early 1970s on a glorious milk train 1015 Western Champion at Plymouth North road, 2nd March 1976 D1057 at Laira, 13th July 1975 And finally D1062 Western Courier, when she was first preserved- a huge sigh of relief at the time that at least one was going to survive I recall. Swindon works, 7th August 1976. Edited February 9, 2015 by Downendian 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted February 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2015 A cracking thread. Those Hymeks at OC are ever so shiny. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Another winning crop - thanks Neil! Next a former avatar, that I used when first joined RMweb, 813 Dragon at Truro in the early 1970s on a glorious milk train One typo here - 813 was Diadem. 814 was Dragon. Nice shot! Pix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Strathwood Posted February 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2015 Zoomed in- not sure it helps, but the green Warship sure looks like a 43. Class 43s Newton Abbott 1969.jpg Neil The shot was used in Seventies Spotting Days around the Western Region (now out of print) I think the green Class 43 is likely to be D854 Tiger. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2015 A cracking thread. Those Hymeks at OC are ever so shiny. Jerry A glitch of the scanner/ Mac photo editing software I fear Jerry, Photoshop is much better, but I don't have a PC to run it. My daughter has promised to help - I bought it for her Photography GCSE.Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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