peanuts Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-31081630 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted February 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2015 That looks like a serious amount of muck to be shifted, at a guess about six weeks work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yup indeed - is that the cutting side that has slid down on to the track bed? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted February 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yup indeed - is that the cutting side that has slid down on to the track bed? Phil It looks like it to me Phil with the drainage channels as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidnutter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Chiltern twitter says the track isnt covered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted February 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2015 We might have to work Banbury as a terminus at Biggleswade show if they haven't sorted out the landslip by then!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted February 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2015 Chiltern twitter says the track isnt covered. Network rail want to be sure that there is no more movement first. I can see to the left of the BBC picture another pile of muck at the top of the embankment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted February 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2015 There is quite a lot about this on Big Jim's thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 And not a Tesco store in sight! LOL Top marks to Chiltern Railways for the efficient way that they communicated with their passengers. XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 That's a major blow to XC services between Reading (and the South Coast) and Birmingham and the North. That's also a major freight route, especially to/from Southampton Docks. Map here. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2015 NR estimating that 350,000 tonnes of spoil needs to be removed. That's a big job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted February 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2015 Given the amount of slip to be moved that has been quoted it is about a quarter of the size of the slip at Hatfield and Stainforth. That took 5 months from slip to reopening but it is not as simple as taking a proportional timescale since we do not know what damage there is to the formation. That at Hatfield was substantial. The official report is what we need to see or official updates from Network Rail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meil Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 This is serious because the civil works that have been done to stabilise the original slip have not worked - they have failed. I can smell writs on the wind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2015 May be a bit difficult as it was acknowledged when the line was built that the ground was unstable. That's why there's only a short tunnel and a deep cutting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2015 This is serious because the civil works that have been done to stabilise the original slip have not worked - they have failed. I can smell writs on the wind. Which slip? The 1884 one?: http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrhc94.htm Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 There was already a 50mph temporary speed restriction in place just outside the tunnel on the Up line, I'm not surprised it's happened again. Ah well, it looks like my Hinksey - Bescot job will be caped on Wednesday night then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2015 Which slip? The 1884 one?: http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrhc94.htm Keith Long recognised as a 'difficult' area I believe Keith. What I therefore find difficult to understand is why a building(s?) should be under construction right on the top of an area known to be somewhat on the dodgy side. I wonder if NR objected to this development in the way they have at a well known slip site at Dawlish? Or were they even consulted about the building work? Looks like the Southampton container etc trains are going via the preferred diversionary route of Reading - Acton - WCML but seemingly rather thinned out at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted February 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2015 This is serious because the civil works that have been done to stabilise the original slip have not worked - they have failed. I can smell writs on the wind. Why? From the limited photos available, the repairs previously carried out seem perfectly reasonable in the sense that they have worked successfully elsewhere on the network where cuttings have required stabilisation works. Presumably the relevant geotechnical experts had every reason to suppose they would work here too or NR wouldn't have gone to the expense of applying them to this location. Thus while compensation will certainly be due from NR due to the line not being open, such practices are already catered for in the various agreements that underpin our allegedly privatised railway structure. Talk of Writs implies negligence which is nonsense when actually there is plenty of evidence to suggest that NR were taking all reasonable steps to manage the situation. We need LESS legal involvement in our railways not more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 You don't know what the original geotechnical prognosis and recommended solution was. It is possible that the optimum solution was too expensive and disruptive for NR to stomach and a half way house solution to improve stability but not cure it chosen but knowing the risk of a big slip. It will certainly be a bigger solution now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1059 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Oh well, look on the bright side. No one hurt and that's another few years before the vegetation takes over again Just need a slip on the opposite side of the line further down beyond the bridge now to open up the classic view of the S bend !! Up The Bank At Harbury by D1059, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2015 That's a major blow to XC services between Reading (and the South Coast) and Birmingham and the North. That's also a major freight route, especially to/from Southampton Docks. Map here. . Fortunate that they have doubled the alternative routes recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2015 Long recognised as a 'difficult' area I believe Keith. What I therefore find difficult to understand is why a building(s?) should be under construction right on the top of an area known to be somewhat on the dodgy side. I wonder if NR objected to this development in the way they have at a well known slip site at Dawlish? Or were they even consulted about the building work? There was a section of track featured in one of the recent railway documentary series where a factory estate with inadequate drainage, had been built at the top of an embankment . Every time there was heavy rain water poured onto the NR property were it hadn't previously. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Fortunate that they have doubled the alternative routes recently. Although maybe unlucky (for freight) that it didn't hold long enough for Oxford-Bletchley to be open again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meil Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Why? From the limited photos available, the repairs previously carried out seem perfectly reasonable in the sense that they have worked successfully elsewhere on the network where cuttings have required stabilisation works. Presumably the relevant geotechnical experts had every reason to suppose they would work here too or NR wouldn't have gone to the expense of applying them to this location. Thus while compensation will certainly be due from NR due to the line not being open, such practices are already catered for in the various agreements that underpin our allegedly privatised railway structure. Talk of Writs implies negligence which is nonsense when actually there is plenty of evidence to suggest that NR were taking all reasonable steps to manage the situation. We need LESS legal involvement in our railways not more. I was talking about NR suing their consultants and contractors who were obviously in the process of building the stabilisation works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meil Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Which slip? The 1884 one?: http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrhc94.htm Keith No this one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26223623 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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