Martin Shaw Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Hi Robert Nice drawing, are you certain that it was a No7 tablet to Arisaig? I'm pretty certain that the whole of the WHextension was No 6 before RETB. Regards Martin Edited March 17, 2015 by Martin Shaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrour Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 Hi Martin, I shall check with a man who will definitely know :-) kind regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrour Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Hi Martin, I have it confirmed you were correct re No.6, so I'll amend diagram and re-post. However some new information has come to light on lever pulls so will wait till that's sorted to do a new Rev of the drawing. Thanks for your input! :-) R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrour Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Martin, Coronach, et al. Drawing revised to show No.6 Tablet and amended pulls as per Direction Board details I found in my files.. Also attached my drawing of the original RSCo SBD, drawn from a sketch by the late Ed Nicoll, and using style details from similar diagram done for Glenfinnan RM The-WHL-Project-M1-Mallaig-Stn.-u.d.-Rev.4-rot-compress.pdf Mallaig-RSC-M5-Rev.1-rot-compress.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iankemp Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 When me and the girlfriend went to Mallaig, there was a museum (albeit a small one) and in that museum there is a model railway of how it used to be. I have some pictures of it somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) I know its a long time since anyone posted in this thread but found a useful blog with lots of photos of Mallaig Station etc from the 30s onwards all in one place: http://merailway.livejournal.com/703.html EDIT: my father built an "O" scale model of the rationalised Mallaig, which was on the North West exhibition circuit in the 90's, based on 1980s operation; my contribution was a heavily reworked Lima Class 33 converted to a 27 using MMP parts and stretched motor bogie! Edited March 9, 2017 by Signaller69 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McRuss Posted April 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2017 May I ask what the platform on the steamer pier was used for? Thank you. Markus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McRuss Posted April 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2017 Could anyone provide me with a drawing of the Mallaig Station building? Thank you Markus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham R Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Could anyone provide me with a drawing of the Mallaig Station building? Thank you Markus There is a 1905 architectural plan at 1:48 scale (RHP 16725) listed in the National Archives of Scotland ... it's already been digitised so should be straightforward to get a copy. Contact the NAS via their enquiry form explaining that you cannot easily travel to Edinburgh and asking for confirmation that RHP 16725 includes elevations as well as just the building plan, and for a price for a digital copy. Or maybe someone else on RMWeb already has one. cheers Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted April 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2017 May I ask what the platform on the steamer pier was used for? Thank you. Markus Transhipment of fish and goods, and in earlier times coal and perhaps cattle. Mallaig. by Keith Long, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McRuss Posted May 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2017 Thank you for your help, I made a request at the National Register of Scotland, and now I'm waiting. Markus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McRuss Posted May 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2017 Today I received the USB stick with the drawings from Mallaig Station. But I was a bit disappointed because, there are only drawing from the ground and first floor, and drawings from the sides of a second building, but not from the main building. But From the floor drawings I could make a footprint of the building, and the height could be made by judging the height. Markus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Question if I may for the Collective regarding Mallaig signalling. Before they were removed, the platform Starter signals were "main aspect" only with no "Shunt Ahead" arms. As most trains required propelling back beyond these signals for run round movements, were they cleared for the movement, or was Signaller's permission given to pass them at danger for this? And was there a "Shunt Limit" board or marker for such movements? Many thanks, Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham R Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 There was a section signal (lever 9) 236 yards from the signalbox towards Morar, shortly before where the fish sidings used to be (the platform starters were 128 yards the other side of the box). I don't remember from visits there in the 1970s whether the platform starters were cleared for movements out of the platform up to the section signal, but I would be surprised if not. It was not uncommon to have two or three locomotives at Mallaig and other sidings were all signal protected where they joined the main line (except the fish van sidings which required the section tablet to unlock the ground frame). There is no shunt limit board beyond the section signal on signalbox diagram copies I've seen. I had a quick look for photos and found one of D6116 on 19 September 1967 in the process of drawing out the observation car from the rear of a train which had arrived in No 1 platform (the main one which ran on to the harbour sidings), prior to turning on the turntable and re-attachment to the rear of the train for the journey back to Fort William. The loco is accelerating out of the platform and the starter (lever 15) is cleared for the movement. regards Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Thanks Graham, I had a feeling the Starter signal would be cleared but the photos I have seen during run round moves show the signal at danger but the coaching stock having been propelled partly beyond the signal, which was presumably returned to danger when the movement stopped. Cheers again, Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McRuss Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2019 Hello, it's me again. On your plans there seems to be a short platform opposit of the Bayplatform tracks. Is these correct and are there any photos of it? Markus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2019 Hello, it's me again. On your plans there seems to be a short platform opposit of the Bayplatform tracks. Is these correct and are there any photos of it? Markus I think you mean the cattle dock (which later had some oil tanks placed on it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McRuss Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2019 Hello Joseph, I was aware of the cattle dock, but at the end of the bayplatform track, the drawings show something that looks like a platform Markus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted March 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2020 A question regarding the origins of the Mallaig signal box shown below in 1984 with a photo from Flickr. It is not typical West Highland design, can anyone advise whose design it is and, most importantly to save me hours of scratch building heartache, does anyone make a model based on or close to this design? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Have you tried the NBR Study Group or the Signalling Record Society? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Mentioned on this page: https://glenfinnanstationmuseum.co.uk/facilities/signal-box/ "The signal box was built by the Railway Signal Company, to control the signals and points in the Glenfinnan station area. It was one of 13 boxes of this design which were built in 1900-01 for the Fort William to Mallaig, and Spean Bridge to Fort Augustus railways." Also at: https://www.signalbox.org/gallery/sc/banavie.php "In contrast to the small boxes built on the West Highland line in 1894 (see Arrochar & Tarbet), the 1901 extension from Fort William to Mallaig was provided with more conventional signal boxes, although again they bore no resemblance to boxes found elsewhere on the North British system. The contract was let to the Railway Signal Company, and the boxes were basically to their standard design (see Hoylake) but with a hipped roof which had an unusually large overhang. The frames in the boxes were built by RSC but were to Stevens' design, which was the standard frame of the NB." Edited April 1, 2020 by keefer 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2020 Also a signalbox diagram at the museum: https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/6192120839 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted April 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 1, 2020 11 hours ago, young37215 said: A question regarding the origins of the Mallaig signal box shown below in 1984 with a photo from Flickr. It is not typical West Highland design, can anyone advise whose design it is and, most importantly to save me hours of scratch building heartache, does anyone make a model based on or close to this design? I am not aware of any suitable kit but given the interest in the WHR extension it might be a viable project. A signalbox is not the most difficult thing to scratchbuild. The only difficult bits that I can see on that one is the stairs and the corbels. You can probably find suitable bits for those from York Modelmaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, keefer said: Also a signalbox diagram at the museum: https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/6192120839 Thanks for posting that, as it is largely the track plan I used on Crinan. I had wondered if any Track Circuits were provided; it appears the only one (T4508, the blue section on the diagram) was linked with the FPL's and presumably had an indicator when occupied? The 2 lever Ground Frame I'm guessing had one lever for the points and one for a FPL on the platform line (I suspect that is what the black symbol on that point indicates, other FPL's being shown as yellow). Edited April 1, 2020 by Signaller69 Slight text alteration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Yes, i think that 'cross' is the usual symbol for a FPL. Any idea what the 2 symbols are, next to the GF symbol? Is the top one a Loudaphone/speaker or similar for speaking to the signalman? Edited May 31, 2022 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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