ThePurplePrimer Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Could anyone tell me something about what coaches were in use on the LSWR - around 1910 -1915 ish I am struggling to find any information Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Please don't regard this as a winge, but I have over 600 pages of information in front of me. The implication of your request is that someone puts his or her life on hold to read through this information and summarise it for your delectation. Don't think you will find anyone that stupid. So I'm going to rephrase your request to - "Could anyone tell me where I can find out about what coaches were in use on the LSWR - around 1910 -1915 ish" The answer is there are three books by Gordon Weddell: LSWR Carriages volume one - Wild Swan - ISBN 1 874103 08 9 LSWR Carriages in the 20th Century - OPC - ISBN 0 86093 555 8 LSWR Carriages volume 3 Non Passenger Carriage Stock - Kestrel - ISBN 0 95448 595 5 Suggest you beg, borrow (inter library service) or steal. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePurplePrimer Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Hi Bill Thanks for the reply I have the last one but have not yet found either of the first two for sale at a sensible price I would like to apoligise to anyone who was considering giving me a little help and now feels that doing so would make them "stupid" Please note the above said tongue in cheek Edited February 12, 2015 by ThePurplePrimer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted February 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2015 The first volume can be had for under £40; there's one on amazon at £30; if it came out now you'd pay that for it. Vol 2 is very hard to find, with frequent searching I found one at under £100. Bill's right, there's a lot of information. Perhaps you could refine your search (eg all bogie carriages, or are you also after 4-6 wheelers?). I'll type up a summary of types but it will take a while. Possibly helpful links: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/lswr_coach_project.html https://www.flickr.com/photos/camperdown/sets/72157629334241977/ http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/srcoaching Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePurplePrimer Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hi Pete Thanks for the reply I am in the middle of having another look online for the books Thanks for the offer a summary but if it is too much of a job please dont put yourself out. To be honest I didnt realise it would be such a big and complicated subject But thats ok as it sounds like it will be interesting when I do find the books Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Rob, if you do want a copy of the LSWR carriage books I think our club has some of the volumes for sale at reasonable prices as part of an estate - the chap who is dealing with that is currently away but I believe I'll see him on Sunday if you wish me to enquire? I terms of kits have a look at the Roxey range of etched kits http://roxeymouldings.co.uk/category/74/4mm-scale-coach-kits/ Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePurplePrimer Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks Jon PM incoming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Thanks Jon PM incoming Regrettably the member doing the estate has seen the prices these are advertised on the interweb and actually believes that they are worth this much - I disagree, I'm quite convinced this started as a fat fingers extra '0' which everyone else has believed to be the true worth, marked theirs the same and all wonder why they don't sell.... Sorry, J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePurplePrimer Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Hi Jon Thank you for asking anyway - I appreciate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmcc3 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hi all. I have Vol 1 of the set, but I've never seen a vol 2 listed or mentioned anywhere ... I recall there were publishing problems 20+ years ago which delayed it ... did it actually get published? Thanks, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted March 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2015 It was indeed published; I have a copy. I have no idea why, but the print run may have been quite short, as it's very hard to come by and the few sellers on Amazon etc tend to list it at well over £100 or even silly money (e.g. £399). I got one for slightly less by dint of repeated searches until one came up, funnily enough at a bookseller quite local to me; he drove round with it! Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePurplePrimer Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hi Guys I did manage to get the books in the end - it took a bit of searching to find them at prices I was able to live with though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 There were also a number of articles in the old Model Railway Constructor in the 1970s, again by Gordon Weddell. One of the only magazine indices should point you in the right direction, and the mags are normally available cheaply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Could anyone tell me something about what coaches were in use on the LSWR - around 1910 -1915 ish The other thing that might help reduce the quantity of data required - Is this for a specific area on the LSWR, as the coaches used on say secondary lines in Dorset or Cornwall, will be a bit limited in types, compared to those working out of Waterloo. Pleased to hear you've found a Volume (or two) of Weddell's Coaches... I hadn't realised how £££'s they are worth now, especially as I have Vol's 1 & 2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_nyorks Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 LSWR 17 was evidently clerestory. See : https://www.flickr.com/photos/kimctomcat/14103517130/in/pool-2031425@N22 Can anyone advise more on this one? If not, I'll research it at the NRM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 LSWR 17 was evidently clerestory. See : https://www.flickr.com/photos/kimctomcat/14103517130/in/pool-2031425@N22 Can anyone advise more on this one? If not, I'll research it at the NRM This is covered in some detail in Gordon Weddell's first volume.No 17 was built in 1884, one of six first class saloons. It is actually a bogie coach, 47ft 6in long, not a six wheeler as captioned, and had a normal roof. In 1887 it was reconstructed as a Royal Saloon, to replace an earlier 6 wheeled one, receiving the clerestory roof in the process. In 1913 it was altered again to become a less regal picnic saloon, and withdrawn from service in 1931. It was then bought by a young man for £70 and transported, initially by rail to Chichester from Selhurst, and then by road to West Chiltington, where it was placed on sleepers, where it remained until 1989, when it was due to be demolished. Although offered to the Bluebell Railway, they rejected it, but it was rescued, as the Flickr photo shows, but Gordon doesn't, unfortunately continue the story. I am sure I have seen an update, probably in one of the steam magazines, but I cannot recall where. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted December 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2016 This is covered in some detail in Gordon Weddell's first volume. No 17 was built in 1884, one of six first class saloons. It is actually a bogie coach, 47ft 6in long, not a six wheeler as captioned, and had a normal roof. In 1887 it was reconstructed as a Royal Saloon, to replace an earlier 6 wheeled one, receiving the clerestory roof in the process. In 1913 it was altered again to become a less regal picnic saloon, and withdrawn from service in 1931. It was then bought by a young man for £70 and transported, initially by rail to Chichester from Selhurst, and then by road to West Chiltington, where it was placed on sleepers, where it remained until 1989, when it was due to be demolished. Although offered to the Bluebell Railway, they rejected it, but it was rescued, as the Flickr photo shows, but Gordon doesn't, unfortunately continue the story. I am sure I have seen an update, probably in one of the steam magazines, but I cannot recall where. I'm not 100% sure (I'm not a Southern fan, so wouldn't like to show too much ignorance!), but I think this vehicle appears in Model Railway Constructor 1973 June page 219. Certainly there is mention of some conversions to Royal Saloons, of which No. 20 became a kitchen brake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarriageShed Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 No 17 was built in 1884, one of six first class saloons. It is actually a bogie coach, 47ft 6in long, not a six wheeler as captioned, and had a normal roof. In 1887 it was reconstructed as a Royal Saloon, to replace an earlier 6 wheeled one, receiving the clerestory roof in the process. In 1913 it was altered again to become a less regal picnic saloon, and withdrawn from service in 1931. It was then bought by a young man for £70 and transported, initially by rail to Chichester from Selhurst, and then by road to West Chiltington, where it was placed on sleepers, where it remained until 1989, when it was due to be demolished. Although offered to the Bluebell Railway, they rejected it, but it was rescued... Well we certainly know the answer to that question now... thanks to Peter Snow (Great Rail Restorations Ep4 of 5, Channel 4, 27 June 2018). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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