RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 From the info I have E5010 would have been in green with full yellow ends in June 1968, and E5006 (i.e.E5022) was in blue with full yellows by November 1968. It's a shame neither manufacturer are issuing pre-TOPS blue versions - they spent 6 to 7 years in this configuration after all. But Hattons have commissioned E 5013 fron DJM with Golden Arrow accessory pack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 A few pictures of class 71s at Eastleigh works to be going on with. I assume they would have at least worked back home under their own power. Did Eastleigh run test trains, and if so where to? 71001 in Eastleigh Works - 13th August, 1974 by Arnie Furniss, on Flickr British Rail Class 71 71005 at Eastleigh Works - 1975 by Mike Iles, on Flickr Eastleigh Works & Shed, 20 Apr 1975 by Ian Nolan, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Thank you so much those pictures at eastleigh works are fantastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 A few pictures of class 71s at Eastleigh works to be going on with. I assume they would have at least worked back home under their own power. Did Eastleigh run test trains, and if so where to? 71001 in Eastleigh Works - 13th August, 1974 by Arnie Furniss, on Flickr British Rail Class 71 71005 at Eastleigh Works - 1975 by Mike Iles, on Flickr Eastleigh Works & Shed, 20 Apr 1975 by Ian Nolan, on Flickr I do not know about class 71 test runs but when I did a stint at BREL Eastleigh as an apprentice c1976 we went on a test run with a class 33 on a van train from Eastleigh to Clapham Junction, stopping for a "feel round" at Wallers Ash loop. We returned from Clapham (allegedly) towing another class 33 due for works attention plus a buffet car (RB?). Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thats the news i wanted. Ordering one later today. Thank you all for the pictures and information fantastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 But Hattons have commissioned E 5013 fron DJM with Golden Arrow accessory pack. My NRM Gloss fitted with Golden Arrow 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted September 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2016 Er,the Hattons DJM version I am referring to so also to be produced in BR blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Er,the Hattons DJM version I am referring to so also to be produced in BR blue. I'll post pic's of my blue Golden Arrow shortly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Er,the Hattons DJM version I am referring to so also to be produced in BR blue.Here's the Night Ferry 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted September 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2016 Here's the Night Ferry.....so then for Wagons -Lits stock ? Rivarossi still do them? Mind you that's out of scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 LS M .....so then for Wagons -Lits stock ?Rivarossi still do them? Mind you that's out of scale. LS Modèles do - or did - them (I have a set of the F-type) but also HO, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Er,the Hattons DJM version I am referring to so also to be produced in BR blue. My Blue Golden Arrow! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Model Rail produced the Night Ferry sleeping cars, the various baggage vans and the SR 'Fourgon' in etched kit form, in 4mm:1ft scale, several years ago. I believe they are still available in the MARC Models range. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted October 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2016 There have been some wonderful models of CIWL coaches in HO, the Rivarossi models still cut the mustard and the current LS models are beautiful. Unfortunately the difference in scale between OO and HO is very noticeable, and if trying to mix OO and HO in a train it is the proverbial sore thumb. This is a big problem within HO as many coaches nominally HO according to marketing are 1/93 or 1/100 scale. Lovely models of the Golden Arrow 71, I love the gloss green model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barison82 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Dear Alex, Many thanks for the info. That gives me a better excuse for running my 71 with 4 wheel drive hauling an EMU (driven or motor-less). I have got a 4-SUB kit to build, although I'll practise on some less rare kits first. Regards Nick Hello Nick Sorry for my late reply - only just read through this thread again - and have just noted Simon's later reply; it could well have been a 74 on reflection - it was such a long time ago since I came across the book (in a library). It was definately one of the two and by the sounds of it, more likely it was a 74. But I wouldn't want this to stop you going ahead with running a 71 with an EMU in tow, it could still have been possible...and the 4-SUB kit sounds great! Cheers Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barison82 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Are you sure it was a 71? They rarely left the South Eastern Division and would have had a conductor if on the South Western. Might it have been a 74? Simon Hi Simon Sorry I've only just read your reply - and it could well have been a 74, I didn't think of the division it was operating on (SW) Cheers Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 My Blue Golden Arrow! Very nice, but of course the Golden Arrow finished before TOPS numbers. For the last Arrow the locomotive was decked out as in your picture apart from the fact that the arrows were at the leading end only in both directions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Here's the Night Ferry Couple of things. Is that E5001? If so it never ran in service with that shape yellow panel, and also the cab pillar vents were added around the mid 70s long after green gave way to blue. In preservation E5001 retains them and the cab rain strips which were added as unlined green was coming in. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Hello Nick Sorry for my late reply - only just read through this thread again - and have just noted Simon's later reply; it could well have been a 74 on reflection - it was such a long time ago since I came across the book (in a library). It was definately one of the two and by the sounds of it, more likely it was a 74. But I wouldn't want this to stop you going ahead with running a 71 with an EMU in tow, it could still have been possible...and the 4-SUB kit sounds great! Cheers Alex E5006 in 1969 ran a test train from Waterloo to Eastleigh with two all over blue 4VEPs. Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 E5006 in 1969 ran a test train from Waterloo to Eastleigh with two all over blue 4VEPs. Simon You beat me to this, Simon. I found the picture yesterday in a fairly recent Modern Locomotives Illustrated, on DC Electric locomotives. Unfortunately, my home Internet is out of order at the moment (Telstra are working on the problem as multiple customers are affected, not just me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 E5006 in 1969 ran a test train from Waterloo to Eastleigh with two all over blue 4VEPs. Simon This is interesting. When I was at school, my route home took me over the footbridge at Farncombe station. In 1965 there was a regular test train, always heading towards Portsmouth, at about 4pm. The consist of the train was brand new ' Brighton line ' 4CIG's, being propelled by an ED. Sometimes the loco was placed between two units. I also seem to recall a 71 being used aswell I guess the above was to do with the Bournemouth electrification of 1967. If anyone knows more about these workings, I would be very interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 You beat me to this, Simon. I found the picture yesterday in a fairly recent Modern Locomotives Illustrated, on DC Electric locomotives. Unfortunately, my home Internet is out of order at the moment (Telstra are working on the problem as multiple customers are affected, not just me). Thats a very interesting picture. In MLI Mr Marsden says it was 1966, however BR blue for the 71s had not been introduced yet, in Diesel and Electric Locomotives of the Southern Region by Pallant & Bird the same picture is in there dated 15 June 1969. This is the second E5006 renumbered from E5022 in late 1968. The original E5006 became a Class 74 no 74003. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I've got a book somewhere with a picture of a 71 hauling CEPs on the SED. Iirc it was something to do with wheelslip trials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I've got a book somewhere with a picture of a 71 hauling CEPs on the SED. Iirc it was something to do with wheelslip trials. E5013 with 4 x 4CEP units 23 October 1963. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitmen Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 just got my class 71" E5022 " £109 brand new of ebay,looks and runs perfect. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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